Revival of the Runelords (Inactive)

Game Master Cellion

Question for you GM, as the base Elemental Bloodline feats aren't particularly interesting or flavorful: would you be willing to okay Kargas taking Wind Stance as his bloodline feat instead of Improved Initiative or Weapon Focus? It seems a lot more thematic for him, but I understand if you'd prefer not to homebrew the bloodline choices.

"But the only thing better than Weapon Focus is Greater Weapon Focus." says the shocked Sword of Katapesh™.

I'd be ok with increasing the difficulty a little, but I prefer it to take the form of more tactical foes than more combats per day. Sometimes, just adding a couple of mooks makes a fight more challenging. Others, it is scrapping the written tactics for ones that make more sense. Or even some foes knowing how we roll (when it makes sense to) and having a trick or two to exploit that. All those things would be enjoyable ways of increasing difficulty (I'm sure there are others, just giving many examples to explain my opinion).

More combats per day though, doesn't do it for me, especially in PbP. I'm not saying there is never a place for it, but I've seen GM's who just throw encounters at tables because they want it harder and it eventually gets to the point where either easier fights are harder because players save up, or harder fights become impossible because players overspend.

Indirectly related: How are we doing wealthwise? I feel underequipped, but I know there has been little obviously useful stuff for Flo (we also just got a haul to sell to!). Not complaining, just curious how the party is as a whole. The slight relation to the topic of difficulty is that I think how equipped we are should be taken into account to any difficulty adjustment. Checking the loot sheet now!

EDIT: Checked the sheet, nothing super useful for Flo. Once everyone has had a go, gimme dat cash!

@Kargas: I'd prefer you stick to the as-written feat choices for your bloodline, but am willing to make an exception for things that are thematically driven and aren't choices made for optimization reasons. If you *really* want to pick up Wind Stance, go ahead. Just make sure you make a note on your character sheet that makes the houserule clear (so that we remember in the future).

@Kellek: There's definitely the option here to take some downtime in Sandpoint if you want it. The lead you have doesn't have a clear time limit associated with it after all.

@Flo: By my reckoning, except in the rare instances where you're adventuring under pressing deadlines, the number of encounters per day is driven mostly by the players. It's kind of the player-side way of modulating how challenging the adventure is for you. You can almost always back off and rest (even if there's some cost to doing so, its better than overextending and dying!).
You can certainly expect some better positioning and tactics here and there where appropriate. There may be an extra mook every so often or some small numbers tweaks as well. I like to think I have a delicate hand with this kind of stuff. It also helps that I've GM'd this before, so I know where things have room to be adjusted.

RE: Wealth: Indeed, RotRL is somewhat infamous (?) for being a little less loot rich than later APs. You're expected to use more and sell less of what you find. I expect if you liquidate everything you've found so far, you'll be under on wealth. Consider it part of the challenge of the AP :)

Guiness will defer to Kargas on the ring of protection, but he may claim the +1 heavy pick as a backup weapon. Other than that he is good with selling the items.

GM Cellion: Thematically speaking, Guiness is trying to “awaken” the power of Dragonfist. In game terms, the long-term plan is to upgrade from +1 to +2, then upgrade to a Dwarfbond Hammer (effectively a +2 returning weapon), and from there to a Dwarven Thrower (effectively a +3 returning weapon). Most of his cash will go that direction, and it could take a long time given the above comments. He hopes to pick up some improved heavy armor (as loot, since he is saving his cash for the hammer awakening), although with enough downtime he could make his own...

Oh, one other thing, the holy water and wand of gentle repose, I think we were intending to give that back to the church if we didn’t use it, but it is currently on the loot list. If that is the intent, we can just have the temple claim it on the loot list and the calculations will work just fine.

At a quick glance Kellek looks to have gotten 2,645 out of the last dungeon (one spellbook, and one magic hat) which puts him at a little under 7,000 gp total in money, and current equipment (including captured spellbooks, and unused scrolls).

All of his downtime activity revolves around crafting more scrolls (if he has the money to do so), visiting spots in and around Sandpoint to replenish his spell component pouch, and drinking a lot of coffee in his room.

He can also attempt to appraise the items of questionable value.

appraise painting: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (2) + 9 = 11

appraise silverware: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (15) + 9 = 24

appraise vino: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (1) + 9 = 10 Or not.

Out of time :( Will get a post up tomorrow. Sorry this keeps happening! (or at least feels like it does!)

The silverware set including the crystal decanters is worth a staggering 1500 gp!

I think for the painting we need:

DC25 KN Local; OR DC15 art-related Profession/Craft:

to realize its value. I didn't see any rolls in the thread where we found it, but to save us looking it up, if someone can make the roll it is worth (ooc knowledge, of course) 600-1200 gp depending on the buyer.

Maybe Kargas can help us get the wine appraised with his...connection...to Amieko. Might be a decent opening gambit, you know...

Well, if it is knowledge (local): 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (12) + 11 = 23... We still don't know what it's worth. ;)

Well, if it is [dice=knowledge (local)]1d20+11... We still don't know what it's worth. ;)

Maybe someone can aid you with knowledge local -- or roll well themselves, perhaps. Guiness has not picked that one up yet, I am afraid.

Whoever is taking the lead on the loot log should probably run the sales so you guys know how much money you have to play with. If you have things that you need to appraise, the town's merchants can appraise them for you - though you'd be taking the risk that they lowball you on them.

Guiness is in no condition to deal with merchants himself until he gets healed from the disease, but I have been taking the lead on the loot log. If someone can “aid another” with Knowledge Local for Kellek, we should find out about the painting. I am hoping Kargas can be our point man on figuring out the worth of the wine by asking Amieko....while they are having dinner...and sharing a bottle to “sample” the product...Other than that, I can run the numbers pretty quickly once I have them.

If the scroll doesn’t work for curing the disease today, Guiness is going to get Lesser Restoration for his Con, Antiplague, and go rest at the temple for the Treat Disease bonus. He might even borrow a cloak of resistance if someone has one. Assuming that the disease, while created by magic, is not actually currently magic (so he doesn’t get the +2 racial bonus), that makes Guiness Fort save versus disease a. +13 (+9 base, +4 Treat Disease) with a chance to roll twice and take the better result from the Antiplague.

I did some loot table updating. Guiness decided to let the +1 heavy pick go and just rely on hammers for now. Please check on the items you are wanting to keep--Guiness is grabbing the potion of CMW. I also think it might be good for the party for Kellek to keep the wand of Identify. Please do as Kellek did and go in to indicate the items you want--I think we are closing in on about 2000 gp each in cash, depending on what the wine and the painting sell for (and the painting may require a trip to Magnimar for the best price).

I marked the Chime of Opening as Party Loot, and will carry it unless someone else wants to, but I don't think it's a great idea to sell it. We're right at the level(s) where it's most useful

Kargas, do you really want Iesha's scarf? If so, would you like to take it as part of your treasure (just split the cash evenly and 200 of it can be the scarf)? Also, are you not wanting the adamantine sword?

GM Cellion, is part of the intent for the treasure for us to "monetize" the items from the church, or is that their emergency stash that we return unused since we didn't need it (I seem to recall it is the second option, but I wanted to make sure).

Yes, I do. Kargas won't talk about it for a while, but Iesha suffered a pretty horrible death & then undeath and by all appearances was innocent of anything except a poor choice of spouse. That plus kinda-sorta being in her head has given him a lot to think about, in his own way. Probably going to use that to start him on the road to CG

Last I looked the adamantine sword already has Kargas' name added? Did I misread that?

@Kargas, I put names by the items based on what I though people had expressed an interest in—either in or out of character. Those I put there had a question mark after them, so if you really want it, just remove the question mark or otherwise indicate that you do.

@Guiness: Thanks for your heads up on the saving throw, that kind of breakdown is super useful to help me keep track of stuff. Ultimately though, looks like Flo's check is a slam dunk :)
As for the items from the church, they were given to you guys freely, but its entirely an in-character decision on whether you want to keep them for potential future use or return them to the church's stash. You can absolutely 'monetize' them if you want.

@Kargas: Sounds like a sweet plan regarding Iesha. Kargas has definitely been hit hard emotionally over a lot of things thus far in the adventure. Looking forward to seeing where you take him.

RE: The Painting: You can take it with you to Magnimar to get it appraised there, but folks in Sandpoint wouldn't be able to properly evaluate it for you.

RE: The Wine: Let's say Ameiko is able to evaluate the wines. See gameplay.

I don't remember, but was Kargas healed from the disease?

Also, are we planning to stay here until everyone is fully healed from the ability damage. With both Flo and me on it, it should take long, but I still would like to get an idea of how many days pass before we are ready to head back out.

Gameplay post answers some of those questions. You can clear all the ability damage in a couple days, so the question is only if you want to stay longer for downtime.

Treasure distribution, for your consideration--please correct if I have made an error:

Party Stash: Wand of Identify (15 charges), Chime of Opening (5 charges), Painting (to be appraised in Magnimar)

Guiness: Potion of CMW and 1909.86 gp
Kellek: Spellbook, Hat of Disguise, and 1909.86 gp
Kargas: Adamantine Longsword, Ring of Protection +1, 1909.86 gp (200 of which is Iesha's scarf)
Colvyn: Ring of Jumping and 1909.86 gp
Floredana: 1909.86 gp

Let me know if this looks right to you based on the spreadsheet, or if we need to make any adjustments.

Thanks for taking the lead on loot bookkeeping, Guiness!

Treasure distribution, for your consideration--please correct if I have made an error:

Party Stash: Wand of Identify (15 charges), Chime of Opening (5 charges), Painting (to be appraised in Magnimar)

Guiness: Potion of CMW and 1909.86 gp
Kellek: Spellbook, Hat of Disguise, and 1909.86 gp
Kargas: Adamantine Longsword, Ring of Protection +1, 1909.86 gp (200 of which is Iesha's scarf)
Colvyn: Ring of Jumping and 1909.86 gp
Floredana: 1909.86 gp

Let me know if this looks right to you based on the spreadsheet, or if we need to make any adjustments.

That doesn't look quite right. Kellek got a Spellbook from an evil gnome necromancer, and a fetching headpiece (2,645 gp total) and 1909.86 more gp, while Guiness got a potion that costs 300 gp, and the standard bonus 1909.86 gp.... Not that I am complaining mind you--though maybe I am as an adamantine longsword alone costs 3015 gp.

{Considers the numbers}

I'd sell the wand of identify. Kellek is keeping his spellcraft maxed just for that reason. I second the vote for keeping the chime.

I'm basing what follows off of Guiness's numbers. We stand upon the shoulders of dwarves.

Treasure distribution, for your consideration--please correct if I have made an error:

Party Stash: Wand of Identify (15 charges), Chime of Opening (5 charges), Painting (to be appraised in Magnimar)

Guiness: Potion of CMW [300gp] and 1909.86 gp
Kellek: Spellbook, Hat of Disguise [2645gp for both], and 1909.86 gp
Kargas: Adamantine Longsword, Ring of Protection +1 [5215gp for both +scarf], 1909.86 gp (200 of which is [was] Iesha's scarf)
Colvyn: Ring of Jumping [2500gp] and 1909.86 gp
Floredana: 1909.86 gp

Discounting the above chime and the wand for now....

A. (1909.86)5 - 200 = 9349.3 coin (post treasure sale wealth, sans scarf cost) wealth

B. 300 + 2645 + 5215 + 2500 + 0 = 10660 equipment wealth

C. This is the total of all currently considered treasures added together and then divided evenly among the party members.

10,660 + 9,349.3 = 20,009.3/5 = 4001.86/character (which is not possible given Kargas' assigned portion.)

D. Kargas's Loot Surplus (KLS) = 4001.86 - 5215 = -1,213.14 gp

E. 1,213.14/4 = 303.285 gp This is the amount that Kargas owes each other character.

Section F.
This describes the liquid wealth paid out to each character after their equipment costs are taken out. This section includes the KLS number and each character's share of the deficit as 303.29 (rounded up from 303.285) as well as each member's total gained equipment wealth.

Guiness: 4001.86 - 303.29 - 300 = 3,398.57 gp
Kellek: 4001.86 - 303.29 - 2645 = 1,053.57 gp
Kargas: 4001.86 - 5215 = -1,213.14 gp (gets no coins)
Colvyn: 4001.86 - 303.29 - 2500 = 1,198.57 gp
Floredana: 4001.86 - 303.29 = 3,698.59 gp (includes +2 coppers for rounding issues)

If you add up the lines immediately above (Section F)--excluding Kargas's line you get the same coin total that Guiness came up with (that I re-figured into a total in line A).

I know that we talked about this before. I am not sure exactly where we ended up with it.

Perhaps a middle ground that lets people keep found items for 1/2 their price (what we would get for selling them anyway)? Modifying the math above that way, we would get:

Guiness: Item (worth 150 gp sold) and 2828.36 gp
Kellek: Items (worth 1322.5 gp sold) and 1655.86 gp
Kargas: Items (worth 2707.5 gp sold including scarf) and 270.86 gp
Colvyn: Items (worth 1250 gp sold) and 1728.36 gp
Floredana: No items and 2978.36 gp

That being said, Guiness is okay with whatever. This is all more cash than he has seen in his life. As a player, I am also fine with taking effectively less of a share when there are items that don't really apply to my character with the hope that when we finally find that Dwarven Full Plate I don't have to sell everything I own so I can claim it as my share of the treasure.

Generally, if a PC keeps an item (or buys it at character creation) you use the total cost to calculate the worth to the character. And we can still keep all the items we found, and wanted by my figuring. This just means that Kargas forgoes some of the next big payout, and everyone has a more equal share. To be clear, I'm for each character getting as close to an equal share as possible until a dragon orb shows up in the campaign at which point Kellek is just going to steal it, teleport to the Tower of High Sorcery, and claim it as his home. Later, once he has cob-webbed the place up a bit he'll invite folks like Mordenkainen, and Elminister over for tea and Dragon Magazine articles.

The alternative was that Guiness and Flo both get about 2,000ish gp each in treasure, and that Kargas gets about 7,000 gp in treasure. Clovyn and Kellek would have gotten about 4,500 gp each, which is actually a little bit higher than what they would get by simply dividing the treasure as evenly as possible. It makes up for the cost of care and stabling for Colvyn's rat mount, and for the fact that Kellek has three spellbooks with either all, or most of the same CORE cantrips, and a few duplicate spells in them, and doesn't even get a discount on scribing his own scrolls. ;)

Consider too that it might be nice for Guiness to actually be able to just buy what he wants in a big city with hard earned trade bars--so save them up, or go buy some intermediate armor.

Flo of course being a woman has never been paid as much as the men-folk around her so I'm sure she's fine taking 50-75% of a share in treasure until a staff of healing or a magical vacuum cleaner shows up, though diamond dust isn't cheap either. (She might have to moonlight with another party to make ends meet.) ;)

For what it's worth, I'm fine with Kargas getting a smaller share of the this and/or the next cash payout in exchange for the adamantine longsword, it's a pricy piece of loot that's probably more useful out of combat than in it.

Also when Kellek starts stealing from the party Kargas will stab him to death and then toast himself at dinner that evening.

I don't think anyone should worry that they won't be able to immediately use the perfect piece of equipment for their character (we'd have to hash it out if more than one character is very well-suited for something, but I don't know that any of our builds' priorities are the same).

That said, I've always been in favor of some level of making sure wealth distribution is even, within a certain range (meaning trying for an exactly equal distribution is probably not worth it, but keeping it in a sensible range is a worthwhile endeavor).

Also, I see this as a totally out of character element of the game that has in game ramifications (affects the items/gold we have). At least to me, that means if Kargas "goes into debt," that isn't something I expect his character to own up to, just something for the players to keep tabs of for the next time we divy loot up.

I am fine with either Kellek's or Guiness' options. Kellek's is more by the rules (character wealth is calculated at the total value, not what you "paid" for it), while Guiness is more forgiving to people who take found loot. Pros and cons for both, I'd be happy with either.

I would encourage people to think about it this way:

Adamantine Sword Example:

- If Kargas found 3015 gp and had the opportunity to buy an adamantine longsword, would he do that? Or would he use the money for other items that are more optimal to his build--like defensive items or upgrading his own weapon? I suggest he would do the latter.

- If he found 1507.5 gp and had the opportunity to buy whatever he wanted, but there was an adamantine longsword he could get for half price, would he use the gold on something else or would he buy the longsword? Judgement call.

Ring of Protection +1 Example:

- Buying this at full price is a good deal, at least at some point in the character-equipping priority. Forgoing 1000 gp to keep it is a no-brainer.

Nosepicker +1, keen Example:

- Buying this at full price is dumb, and even at half price it is useless--getting the cash of half price is a no-brainer.

In summary, every item we find is going to be worth to a character personally somewhere between 0% and 100% of its full price. If that number is 50% or lower for everyone, the answer is easy--we sell it and split the cash. Having people buy found items out of their share for 100% cost encourages selling everything that is not a perfect fit for your character (something you would have bought with cash at full price). Having people buy found items out of their share for 50% cost gives everyone else what it would have been worth sold at half price and the character who gets it might get good deal--this encourages keeping found items that might be useful, but that you wouldn't buy at full price if you had the cash.

I personally prefer the 50% method, because found items can be really pricey compared to found cash, and it gives the characters a more organic feel in terms of equipment while giving everyone else the same amount of cash they would have gotten had it been sold.

Whichever we choose, add 600 gp per person for the reward. Anyone else have a comment/preference?

Floredana,
The Ship's Boat might be a good choice for our group--you can probably sail it by yourself if it is a Pinnace, and Guiness would be happy to help with the rowing when necessary. Of course, if we had the coin, a Folding Boat would be much more useful overall.

Just to be clear. I do not think that Kargas needs to give up his sword or ring, or even his dumb haunted scarf (which is still Comedy Gold in my book) just because he's over the "share limit" this time. I also don't think he should be forced to go without pocket change for the next few days, weeks, or months either (Extra 600 gp you say? Well, there he goes), but I do think that everyone deserves a fair share and that they should individually have the opportunity to be up to spec as well. Guiness for instance might be waiting forever to get his magic dream armor forcing the healers in the party to spend time healing him because he's getting hit so often. And that might be because he only has the funds of someone of half his level, because one member (in this case Kargas, but when that staff of power shows up--Whooo-Baby!) has the next level's wealth in equipment.

Kellek votes to be selfish, and get an equal share (i.e. Do it the way things are, I would imagine, more-typically figured). Viva, Democratic Socialism!

Paid for by Bernie2020.

Added in 600gp!

Regarding the boat: if we can get a boat that is primarily sailing with the option for rowing in bad winds, Flo is going to drop 500gp on a boat! Otherwise, a folding boat when she is rolling in the dough.

Haha ok, so that brings us to...

1 vote for Guiness' method (Guiness)

1 vote for Kellek's method (Kellek)

1 abstention (Flo, but only because I want one of them to happen, both are better than the current set up IMO. I will choose one if everyone else decides to abstain as well.)

2 silent posters (Kargas, Colvyn)

What'll it be y'all?

Neat catch on that Ship's Boat Guiness. I was looking up what boats are even available in the rules and couldn't find one that had a sail and wasn't 10000 gp. :)

I'm fine with either method, but I'll throw my hat into Kellek's corner because a few hundred gp makes a big difference at low levels and doing treasure distribution by the RAW seems easiest.

GM Cellion,
For Guiness' comment about

"Going to Savah's Armory and looking around--he might be tempted to buy some full plate armor if it looks sufficiently Dwarven and/or has a magical aura to it."

he would be looking for Masterwork Plate Armor and/or +1 Plate Armor that could easily be re-fit for his stout frame. At 6th level it is probably time for him to upgrade from the "battleworn banded armor".

Guiness was hoping to find some nice heavy armor during their adventures, but if it is available in Sandpoint, he is likely to go that way instead. Of course, if it isn't available in town, he'll save his cash for later.

Let me know if the other purchases/crafting work out too....

Definitely masterwork plate armor is available. Unfortunately no +1 plate in Sandpoint. I may have missed if there were some other things you wanted to buy (amidst the other conversations), but the crafting of a holy symbol is no problem for you to tackle during downtime.

Definitely masterwork plate armor is available. Unfortunately no +1 plate in Sandpoint. I may have missed if there were some other things you wanted to buy (amidst the other conversations), but the crafting of a holy symbol is no problem for you to tackle during downtime.

That will work, thanks. Guiness will follow Father Zantus' lead on the other topic, but if he is amenable, Guiness will get to work on the holy symbol--we might need to do some maths to figure out how much it will cost to craft and how much Guiness will need to donate to the church...

Also, if that enchanter is still around, Guiness may purchase an enchantment or two depending on how the loot is distributed.

Looks like you guys are settling on Kellek's method to distribute gold from sales? I'm fine with whatever you choose, but want to make sure that's not holding you guys up too long.
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@Guiness: Up to you entirely on how much you might want to donate to the church. The enchanter has probably moved on, but on the plus side, you're moving on to Magnimar where there's everything and anything for sale - including almost all the enchanting you could desire.

Guiness wants this item to be very special, a representation of the holy symbol of Desna that captures the delicate beauty of the butterfly in its design, but also the strength and wonder of the sea in its materials. Let's say Guiness uses 250 gp in raw materials and donates a like amount to the church in honor of Floredana, handing the finished work to Father Zantus in the hope that he will consecrate it to Desna and give it to her when the time is right.

No other purchases for Guiness. I am fine with using Kellek's numbers (after adding the 600 gp each to them, of course) and moving on.

3,398.57 gp + Potion of CMW + 600 gp
-1650 gp for armor, -500 gp for crafting and donation

Net 1848.57 gp added to Guiness' reserves.

That's fine with me. And if it's fine with everyone else, Kargas can have some pocket money, and take a share of 600 gp as well and then just owe everyone his debt (a total of 1,213.14 gp) at the next big haul.

Adjusted gold to make up the difference in distribution and for the 500gp sloop!

Any Eyes of the Eagle (2500gp) in Sandpoint GM, or is Flo holding onto her gold until Magnimar?

Flo will be scribing scrolls, but I don't have the time to go over the spells at this moment. Will get that posted when I have the time this week!

GM, the post I linked back to was the first instance of Flo sending letters to her family. Even if it is just "they respond," that's enough for me as the player to make it work. Flo has a strong bond with her family (barring the runaway brother), so she'll be sending letters with some frequency. Never getting a response, she'd eventually try to convince the party to investigate their silence, or even risk going it alone if she had to :P

I didn't comment much for 2 reason.

1. I was rather busy with my son birthday and a hockey tournament at the same time. He's the one playing, not me.

2. You lost me at one point with the math.

So if I got this right I get

Colvyn: 4001.86 - 303.29 - 2500 = 1,198.57 gp + 600 gp

For a Total of 1,798.57 gp. + the 380,47 that I already had.
So I have 2,179.04 gp. Not to bad.

At it is, the only thing Colvyn would look for it a Mithral Shirt, which I believe he would have an better chance to find in Magnimar.

During the down time, Colvyn will look into getting himself a few vial of acid... just in case he encounters some more swarms. 5 should do it.

Eyes of the Eagle: 1d100 ⇒ 23

So no Eyes of the Eagle in Sandpoint right now. But they'll be available in Magnimar for sure.

Mithril Shirt: 1d100 ⇒ 73

On the other hand an unenchanted mithral shirt is indeed available! Vials of acid are also available from Bottled Solutions in Sandpoint.
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Thanks for the heads up on your history with sending stuff back home Flo.

Kellek spends his time purchasing/crafting/researching the following:

He crafts scrolls of: alarm (CL 4, 2 hours, 100 gp), hydraulic push (CL 1, x2, 4 hours total, 50 gp), command undead (CL 3, 2 hours, 150 gp), fireball (CL 6, 1 day, 450 gp), fly (CL 5, 1 day, 375 gp) = three days of toil.

If he can find a source for them, he buys scrolls and transcribes them into his personal spell book: disguise other (190 gp) and rope trick (190 gp)

He retains his captured spell books (Lyrie the Sellspell's Tome, and Caizarlu's Necromantic Research Journal). He doesn't transcribe their useful contents into his book for lack of time, resources and need. If he takes 10 on a spellcraft check he cannot fail to understand their contents. While he is not a typical 'STR 7 arcanist' the added weight will be an issue, and he'll have to invest in a magical haversack at some point.

Guiness, just to be clear, Flo currently has no indication that the holy symbol was crafted by you, right?

Also, mechanically, the hell did Flo just receive? A cold iron holy symbol that is also a wayfinder with two light settings? Does the ioun stone slot on the symbol function as a wayfinder's slot, or is it just a more secure location for an ioun stone than orbiting Flo's head? How much did this set you back? Player to player, I'd be willing to offset some of that cost if it turns out it was more than the 500gp you donated/crafted with!

Flo obviously appreciates her gift from "the church" but as a player I do too! Thanks :)

Floredana has no idea the the item is from Guiness. His donation to the church was not even quite enough to offset the cost of the remove disease spell. And this is a gift...even if you find out it is from him, he will accept no payment.

It is based on a Wayfinder, but modified to closely follow the picture of the Desna Butterfly.

Dwarves take debts of honor seriously...

If he can find a source for them, he buys scrolls and transcribes them into his personal spell book: disguise other (190 gp) and rope trick (190 gp)

Missed this earlier, but both these are definitely available in Sandpoint.

Also, mechanically, the hell did Flo just receive? A cold iron holy symbol that is also a wayfinder with two light settings? Does the ioun stone slot on the symbol function as a wayfinder's slot, or is it just a more secure location for an ioun stone than orbiting Flo's head?

Mechanically, this functions as a combination wayfinder and holy symbol with some small reflavoring. It works exactly as a normal wayfinder (with the additional "candle" light setting) and also as a normal cold iron holy symbol. Normally I don't go for any custom items, but this one was a very cool suggestion from Guiness, and a pretty modest variant mechanically.

Kellek Zaderan wrote:

If he can find a source for them, he buys scrolls and transcribes them into his personal spell book: disguise other (190 gp) and rope trick (190 gp)

Missed this earlier, but both these are definitely available in Sandpoint.

In which case he takes the time to transcribe them into his personal spellbook.

I'm hoping this is the end of description and narration heavy posts for a bit - I was getting a bit burnt out making them every day :>

You guys are the leaders from here, investigating whatever you're interested in in Magnimar. Good luck!

Thanks GM, I know all of that is a lot of work on your end! It is greatly appreciated and really makes the game feel more alive :)