
Amunet-Ra |

I still say with your maps and the effort you put in let's use roll20 or something!
One thing i want with Amunet-Ra is something with her weapons.
I would be cool with the sword being a obsidian sword of some sort.
Had the idea that the spear could be made of an exceptional large snake fang or something, which could then be a pair with the sword perhaps.
So she is essentially fielding a pair of fangs as weapons, a bit like the Crys daggers in Dune.
Unsure what the shaft of the spear would be made of though.
I would make that named weapons for sure then, but so far no magic there.

Hamza Mīnakshi |

I have a means to dispatch the golem, but it needs to rounds. 1 to get into position and set up, and 1 full round to pull it off. But, with everyone going inside the Slassan's chamber, I'm not sure Hamza can do it on his own.

Tyren Lourofesh |

Is the primary problem with the Golem being it's DR?

Sebecloki |

I have a means to dispatch the golem, but it needs to rounds. 1 to get into position and set up, and 1 full round to pull it off. But, with everyone going inside the Slassan's chamber, I'm not sure Hamza can do it on his own.
If you stat up your evil foo animal and the 2 of you work together, can you do it?

Tyren Lourofesh |

Damn, it's too bad I would've shown up mid-battle...I could've distracted it pretty handily. XP

Tyren Lourofesh |

I'm good, I just have the ability to Fascinate Constructs.
EDIT: So, eh, Synergistic Training...Am I wrong in thinking that's ridiculous in Gestalt?

Hamza Mīnakshi |

Hamza Mīnakshi wrote:I have a means to dispatch the golem, but it needs to rounds. 1 to get into position and set up, and 1 full round to pull it off. But, with everyone going inside the Slassan's chamber, I'm not sure Hamza can do it on his own.If you stat up your evil foo animal and the 2 of you work together, can you do it?
I'm not sure, basically, I need a way to keep it distracted long enough to open a portal(Which takes a full round), and then make it go through. Which I'm unsure if Hamza can pull off, even with his evil foo creature.

Hamza Mīnakshi |

Why don't you just design the foo creature around that idea -- like make it a summoner with its own little horde of evil pokemon or whatever.
I don't think I wanna go that route with the minion. Summoning on it's own can be a serious main in the butt, but with the amount of players in this game, I feel like adding a horde of summons would be too much.

Sebecloki |

Sebecloki wrote:Why don't you just design the foo creature around that idea -- like make it a summoner with its own little horde of evil pokemon or whatever.I don't think I wanna go that route with the minion. Summoning on it's own can be a serious main in the butt, but with the amount of players in this game, I feel like adding a horde of summons would be too much.
What about if you made it so that it can multiply itself into several copies or something? That, or build it so it can takes tons of additional actions, or fire a lot, like a bolt ace gunslinger with some kind of double barreled equivalent of a cross bow, which is also hasted and beserked or something like that.
Im currently playing a gestalt mythic campaign and at level 10 i can attack 9 times a round. Rapid shot, rapid shot mythic, improved weapon fighting, weapon fighting, improved weapon fighting mythic, fast bombs. It's sick. My bomb economy is obviously a problem but i got to build my own race and my second build is an archer with many many shot and such rapid shot and what not so i can always attack at least 5 times a round. At the end I'll be throwing ten plus. I currently do 180 damage a round and its all touch and has spell like effects too.

Amunet-Ra |

Yeah I don't think we really need minions or companions in this game. We have enough people.
With distracted you mean fascinate? That doesn't really work in combats though as written.
I'm also in the camp that TWF does not work with throwing or Manyshot lol .

Rokan the Ascetic |

Who's left that hasn't entered?

Hamza Mīnakshi |

If I wasn't so busy over the next few days, and could focus on finishing Hamza, I almost think he could solo the Crimson Sentry. However, I'm out all day today helping my uncle move his business across town. And tomorrow I've got a wrestling show with my brother during the day that I will be attending and then another one tomorrow night that we'll be watching. Sun is outside work hopefully.
Tl:Dr Won't be able to finish Hanza in a timely manner. So won't know if I can actually beat down the golem on my own.

Sebecloki |

If I wasn't so busy over the next few days, and could focus on finishing Hamza, I almost think he could solo the Crimson Sentry. However, I'm out all day today helping my uncle move his business across town. And tomorrow I've got a wrestling show with my brother during the day that I will be attending and then another one tomorrow night that we'll be watching. Sun is outside work hopefully.
Tl:Dr Won't be able to finish Hanza in a timely manner. So won't know if I can actually beat down the golem on my own.
OK, then how about everyone else continues, and you can finish up on your own when you have a chance to finish updating? The characters can just split up for a second.

Tyren Lourofesh |

Well, taking a closer look at Tyren, he probably actually could talk the Golem down. Maybe. Depending on what it's will save is. If it's anything above a 17, then it'd be impossible. At 17, it starts at an estimated approximate of 20 rounds.

Rokan the Ascetic |

I won't know if Rokan could do better until I pick my feets. Now that all of the leveling info is gathered in one place, I expect I will do that tonight or earlier tomorrow.
That said, I agree with moving on as I know there will come more chances to test my character's changes :)

Amunet-Ra |

I'm honestly not sure if we - even as a party - can beat this thing.
There are also clear hints from the GM that we're not meant too.
Don't waste your time guys ;)

Ri'Kli'Klek |

I'd argue that, even if we could, there's no point. And of course Ri'Kli'Klek would rather the tombs be kept a dangerous place.

Tyren Lourofesh |

It looks freakin' sweet, but no, never used it.

Tyren Lourofesh |

If they have one for undeath, Tyren's looking increasingly like he's embracing that whole 'undertaker' part of his job with every detail I write into him as well.
Maybe he'd be tempted to slowly become some unholy fusion of undeath, refusing its' insidious power until such an occasion comes where he's at risk of death and that power becomes that much more tantalizing.
Maybe he's drowning, and a lack of a need to breath seems a good advantage for the price of iron lungs...

Amunet-Ra |

Yeah that will certainly give you a warm welcome in any Athasian city and place :D

Tyren Lourofesh |

It's a hard life, having a questionable morality.

Ri'Kli'Klek |

Actually on Athas having few morals is kind of expected. Slavery is common, most people obey evil sorcerer-gods, and killing someone because there's not enough water for both of you would be considered a regretable necessity.
It's just anything that looks like arcane magic that will get you murdered.

Hamza Mīnakshi |

Seb, for our 1-3 psionic/life craft items,
Can we make these via the normal Magic Item Creation rules? Obviously substituting psionic powers for spells.
If so, how much do we determine our 'wbl'?
Or are we to just buy a them like normal?
Hamza's weapon is already named(Bloodwind), but aside from the benefits I get from ABP and various class features, is non-magical.
Should I give it some magic abilities, to go with the whole concept of named magic items? Or does just have a name/history suffice?

Cae Leonidas |

Just to throw it out there, Cae can use Healing Hex (cure moderate wounds) on everyone 14 times per person each day.

Sebecloki |

Seb, for our 1-3 psionic/life craft items,
Can we make these via the normal Magic Item Creation rules? Obviously substituting psionic powers for spells.
If so, how much do we determine our 'wbl'?
Or are we to just buy a them like normal?
Hamza's weapon is already named(Bloodwind), but aside from the benefits I get from ABP and various class features, is non-magical.
Should I give it some magic abilities, to go with the whole concept of named magic items? Or does just have a name/history suffice?
use the rules for psionic items https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative-rule-systems/psionics-unleashed/equipm ent/psionic-items/creating-psionic-items/

Ri'Kli'Klek |

Even the Green Age wasn't super cuddly -- malcontents were punished by having their minds trapped in obsidian orbs, for example.
The basic idea of Athas is that things were bad and got worse, and then got worse again. XD

Tyren Lourofesh |

You know, it's pretty funny, but there's actually at least two ways that Arcane Magic could fix it's own mess without messing things up more. There's a style of magic that draws from the grey, as well as from the..What was it called, Azure Storm? That, if used with the more common life-enhancing spells, would be a net plus for the environment.
Problem is, it seems like studying Arcane Magic tends to make you too paranoid to pursue it for anything more than more power.

Rokan the Ascetic |

The build rules have both of these statements about HOF:
You can select up to 6 of these puppies. They count for feat slots.
and
For Horrifically Overpowers Feats, you can only have 1 per level/mythic tier, so either 8/2 or 6/3 at the current build.
Also, for us psionically inclined folk, can "Full Casting Action" be taken as "Full Manifesting Action"? :)

Tyren Lourofesh |

So the idea is 1 per level/1 per mythic tier, I believe.
And you know what? Have you noticed how few of these abilities actually work with manifesting? It brings out the salt, man.

Tyren Lourofesh |

Bah! All I hear is excuses. The guy was a former D&D writer. He knows that feats should be forward-compatible!

Sebecloki |

The build rules have both of these statements about HOF:
Quote:You can select up to 6 of these puppies. They count for feat slots.and
Quote:For Horrifically Overpowers Feats, you can only have 1 per level/mythic tier, so either 8/2 or 6/3 at the current build.Also, for us psionically inclined folk, can "Full Casting Action" be taken as "Full Manifesting Action"? :)
I mean 'normal' HOF feats for the 'normal levels' and 'mythic HOF' for the mythic tiers. So 6 or 8 'normal ones' and 2 or 3 mythic ones.
Fine with manifesting action.

Sebecloki |

Just to address a general issue that's come up before:
I'm okay with rewriting the HOF feats about casting to apply to pisonics, spheres (sphere casters, not martials like the blacksmith), and veils. These are actually magic. The veil weaving classes are supposed to be a replacement for Incarnum, which is a magic system.
I'm not okay with applying them to stances, manuevers, and other martial systems that are quasi-magic.

Tyren Lourofesh |

Makes sense. IL is so easy to raise, anyway.
EDIT: You know, as a player, I recognize fully that this is a terrible idea and is probably going to backfire on me horribly, but man, Tyren really had no chance given the kind of upbringing and motivations he has.

Sebecloki |

Makes sense. IL is so easy to raise, anyway.
EDIT: You know, as a player, I recognize fully that this is a terrible idea and is probably going to backfire on me horribly, but man, Tyren really had no chance given the kind of upbringing and motivations he has.
Well, one thing I want to do in this campaign is leave space for crazy stuff like assuming corruptions, player on player combat, and other insanity that you'd not normally be allowed to do.

Hamza Mīnakshi |

So as to avoid things I actually shouldn't know, is the spoiler stuff with Tyren taking place in the room Hamza just teleported into?
If it is, I'll read the spoilers if there's any conversation taking place that Hamza could hear. Otherwise, I won't read em.
Also,
While Hamza is, in fact, evil and kinda power hungry, he(and I) have no real desire to engage in player on player combat. Unless the PCs try to interfere with both his goals and those of his House. Even then, PvP won't be his first option.
It would seem Devapala's stated goals align with his.