Kingmaker

Game Master Malinor.

The first C option provides the most stability. I think we should focus on that stat and build up for awhile. I would vote first C then second c(=d)

HA! :-) Didn't notice that I had two C's :-) My back-up option was meant to be second-C = D. (But it is a back-up, I much prefer B)

B is the riskiest if I understand the final outcomes - it increases unrest instead of reducing it

None of the options increases unrest.

B reduces unrest by 3, -2 from a city wall and -1 from the house.

B has the biggest influence on Stability, as unrest also affects it, so the net effect there would be +4 to stability.

The net effect for all option is:
A +2

B +4

C +2

Second-C/D +3

Yes… I was reading it wrong!
B is the best option! Concur with B,

I guess B it is then.

One last question before I can finish processing. Are you converting to Isolationist?

One last question before I can finish processing. Are you converting to Isolationist?

I would say yes, but when you are asking like that, I get nervous ;-)

Have we missed something?

As I read it, the effect is:

Hex: -1 (=0 new hexes a turn)
Stability: +2
Loyalty: +1
Economy: -2
Consumption: -1 (meaning we pay one less consumption, so an advantage)

I see Andreas talking at a townhall meeting with the people that are unhappy, explaining to them that we will spend some time to consolidate out small land and work on everyone's problems, so we can find a way to live here everyone would be happy with. Like a real politician ;-)

I did not mean it as a weird gotcha question. I just need to know so I can change it if that is what you want. It effects rolls so I just need to make sure that this was your intent.

I know you didn't try to trick us, then you would not have said anything. Just wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything and that the change would have some giant drawback I hadn't noticed.

But I vote for changing to isolationist

Anyone else?

I think it is the best thing till we get things under control.
Stop advancing.

Three Stability checks in a row! Go!

Not much we can do here.

We have two improvements and one building + a house.

We have the same options as last round for getting stability.

We could do the watchtower in E20. We would only have 2 BP left, but could get another road in C20.
That's 13 BP spent.

Another way is doing two roads in C20 and D20. Not sure what D20 is, but lets assume hills. That would cost 4 BP, leaving 10

We could then do a house (would suggest in Olegstown) and either a smithy or a brewery (Either town is fine). That's another 9 BP, leaving 1 BP

Instead of the house and smithy/brewery, we could do the shop as we have talked about, but that will have no effect on the stability. In fact, it only gives 1 economy and +500 base value. It can be upgraded later, though. That's 8 BP, so would leave 2 BP.

I'm voting for the smithy and two roads.

I like smithy- putting it at Olegs (per our previous RP, perhaps dwarves returned and formalized the smithy…) and roads.
It might be a slow build for awhile.
Good work catching the serial killer. Rillka suggests a public execution

I like smithy- putting it at Olegs (per our previous RP, perhaps dwarves returned and formalized the smithy…)

Oh, yeah, that's right, Kazmuk did build the smithy. That makes even more sense then!

Good work catching the serial killer.

Yes, Good work, Kesten!! We should throw him a party :-)

Rillka suggests a public execution

Rhavi don't think that is a good idea! She is actually very surprised that sweet little Rillka would suggest that!

A smithy is a good RP choice. Roads will be good as well...is there not a bonus for having so many roads connected?

As far the Serial killer and Kresten.
DM is this something we should see to the conclusion or was this just flavor and it is considered over and done with?

Roads will be good as well...is there not a bonus for having so many roads connected?

You get +1 economy per 4 roads and +1 stability per 8 roads. If we build the 2, we only have 3.

It's the same with hexes with rivers and there we at least have 4 or 5 (can't check, is on my phone)

Not sure if you count them together. If you do, we would have 8, if we have 5 rivers. At least the sheet don't work like that, I think.

@Andreas- Because you succeeded on both stability checks the event was concluded. There is nothing else to do with this unless you want to do a festival edict to celebrate stopping the serial killer or build a monument to it.

Rivers and road bonuses are calculated separately. They do not stack for the bonuses if that is what you are asking Rhavi.

Rivers and road bonuses are calculated separately. They do not stack for the bonuses if that is what you are asking Rhavi.

Kinda asking, but suspecting that that was the case ;-)

Seems like we agree for the next turn?

Two roads in C20 and D20 and a house and a smithy in Olegstown.

What kind of hex is D20? Hills?

And to prepare for the next turns, what about E20, F20 and G19? All hills?

B20 and C20 are plains. G18 is a forest. Every other region in your nation is a Hills region.

So are we set on the two road segments, the Smithy and the House? Are there any Edict changes?

Rillka concurres with that.

Agree

No edicts.

Yep, no edicts changes.

no changes

Go! Also check the RP boards for the Monster Event.

What do you want to build for Turn 7? Are there any changes?

Still every limited what we can do.

We could build the road in E20. Then we have 4 and get the +1 economy. That's hills, so 3 BP

We could also build a road in F20, but as that is both hills and river, it would cost 6 BP and not give us anything else. The travel-time is already reduced because of the river the rest of the way.

If we do both, we only have 2 BP left.

If we only build in E20, we would have 8 BP left.

That would be enough for the shop (8 BP)

We could also do the brewery (6 BP) that we didn't do last turn.

Neither of those buildings would leave enough for a house (3 BP), but since we don't have any unrest, a house won't do anything.

If we do want the house anyway, we only have 5 BP left. That only leaves the baths, crematorium or dump (each 4 BP) as options to increase stability.

I would suggest the road in E20 and the shop in Olegstown. That would spent all 11 BP.

Alternative, I would suggest road in E20 and brewery in the Capital for 9 BP, leaving 2 BP for next round.

So anyone want to second one of the ideas?

I would go with road in E20 and the shop in Olegstown. Seems natural that Oleg's would develop into a legit trading post, so having a shop there makes sense.

What is Andreas plan?

I am fine with this plan..road and shop.
For some reason I remember us having more roads. I thought we did roads already to the kobolds.

There was talk of more roads, but you ended up building the mines and a sawmill instead. Which are straight BP in future turns.

Ok, we will go with that plan. I will process it in a bit.

I gambled on the invisibility to help me...oh well.

Ok, I did not realize you turned invisible. Although that does make your post make more sense. How did Sir Andreas go invisible? I did not realize he had the ability to do that.

If he is not visible the plant will attack someone else. I will re-roll who it attacks and we will go from there.

If you do something like invisibility, please make sure you make an explicit out of character comment so I know the effect is up. I did not understand that was happening from your post.

Rillka cast it on him

You are correct. I saw her draw her wand and apparently stopped reading there.

Halflings… we are sneaky like that.

Sneaky halflings...GMs with lack of focus. Something like that.

I have the precise bomb discovery where I can exclude 4 squares from splash damage. Can I use that to exclude Jackob from splash damage?

(I will of course also exclude Andreas, but no question that I can do that ;-) )

pssst! Hey Rhavi. Remember that you get a +1 morale to hit from Bless for at least the next round or two.

The same goes for everyone.

You can do that, or you can target a square further back. In Pathfinder you do not share the squares while grappling and it is huge. So there is plenty of room to miss without being precise and you can opt to be precise if you have that ability.

Everyone
I will not be offended in any way if you all choose to run at this point.
It is the only choice that will keep most of you alive. Jackob is dead in at most 3 rounds. Ulm is likely to follow unless he goes full defense and gets lucky on the AOO while running away.

Get out of here, go back to town and get everyone to pepper the thing with flaming arrows until it decides to leave. Or feed it a poisoned sheep.

run.

No offense… but however noble; I don’t like that plan.

No offense… but however noble; I don’t like that plan.

Not too fond of it myself but I think we are in TPK territory.

Caerwyn has alchemist fire on his character sheet.
Juat saying.

Caerwyn has alchemist fire on his character sheet.

Juat saying.

Saw that, it is on the hit parade for just after Rhavi's bombs run out. He also has a light mace that might prove useful once we are out of fire.

hey all.

Are we allowed to see the "behind the screen" numbers and base our tactics on the mysteries revealed there in? Thinks like attack values, damage, saves and what not?

If not could we get a note either as to what was rolled or what the final total was? This would give us an idea of how strong something is.

EX1. GM: Roll was an 8. Player: And they hit. This is a tough/skilled opponent.

EX2. GM: Total was a 23. Player: they just got lucky.
Next round GM: Total was 22. Player, oh dear.

Or whatever. I am just looking for more data to know when we are in over our heads.

In this environment I believe that everyone reads all the spoilers. I just trust people to not abuse the knowledge. In theory, your characters do not know how the dice rolls went for you or your enemy. But everyone can see the rolls and make some determinations, correctly or incorrectly, I just ask that you not obviously abuse what you discover.

I will say, this creature is on the random chart for the Greenbelt in Book 1. You could run into it at 1st level. Seems a bit harsh then. :P It is among the tougher challenges you could face in Book 1. My goal is not to throw things I do not think you could take on if possible. Although, in a Sandbox world like this one, your decisions could lead to some rough encounters.

This is on a wandering encounter chart! Man that is old school. I approve.

In my opinion we are still toast but at least it was Old School Random cruelty.

Looking back I see where I made a clear error. Should have cast Summon rather than bless. A flight of Stirges or a small Earth Elemental would have prevented the charge and bought us at least a round. Too much time with level appropriate encounters have dulled my player-paranoia.

Thinking perhaps a Shaman or Cleric for the next go round. Assuming dear Jackob is lost to us that is. Maybe a Druid.... Any suggestions?

You are not dead yet. But I will agree that it is a bit grim. The plant is looking very scorched. Missing the Fort save was not grand. I may need to look into Hero Points. When I run in person (now on Roll20) I give a single re-roll on a save each session. But that does not work out well in a PBEM game.

I agree with Rillka, I cannot see Andreas leaving you behind like this.