Kingmaker (Inactive)

Game Master Dreaming Warforged

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Is it a real proposal?

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Is it a real proposal?

Nah, it's from the first Superman movie (with Christopher Reeves). Luthor is talking about conquering some chunk of the world and has a map with towns on it renamed 'Lexville' and 'Luthor City' and his comic-relief incompetent assistant Otis has drawn in a little town named 'Otisberg.'

As for a name, we want to draw settlers, so how about something like Erastil's Bounty? Greenfield? Harvestsomething... I'm not coming up with much right now.

Perhaps Providence, for a city name.

Grimstadt sounds cool for a nation.

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Is it a real proposal?

You don't get it? Are you serious? You should be executed for such insolence! :)

Only the greatest Superman EVER! No one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever come close to Christopher Reeve as Superman. I HIGHLY recommend seeing it.

Did I mention I HIGHLY RECOMMEND seeing it?

Oh, and on a less tragic topic, Providence is cool with me. Can't really go wrong with that as a name for a capital, can we? ;)

Other Mastermind wrote:

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Is it a real proposal?

You don't get it? Are you serious? You should be executed for such insolence! :)

Only the greatest Superman EVER! No one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever come close to Christopher Reeve as Superman. I HIGHLY recommend seeing it.

Did I mention I HIGHLY RECOMMEND seeing it?

Oh, and on a less tragic topic, Providence is cool with me. Can't really go wrong with that as a name for a capital, can we? ;)

Havn't seen that for a while. Personally I like both Christopher Reeve and the superman from the animated series.

I've only seen one animated Superman movie. It's been too long for me to remember much about it, though. I don't get cable so I've never actually seen the series.

I've only seen one animated Superman movie. It's been too long for me to remember much about it, though. I don't get cable so I've never actually seen the series.

Ahh, well it was pretty decent, though I perfer Batman: The Animated Series where Mark Hammel was the voice of the joker. Plus JLA series was even better than that.

As games keep fizzing out of existence, I'm seriously thinking of running Jade Regent in Golarion.

Thoughts? Interest?

Also, posting has slowed down quite a bit. Anything I can do to help?

For some reason posting in almost all the games I'm in has slowed down. Are we waiting for something on the Kingdom building stage of the game? Maybe we're confused on what we're supposed to do next, or while waiting on any items we might have ordered. I'll try to figure out how much money I have this week, and make a shopping list.

Autumn slowdown? Hard to say. Two of the other three active PBPs I'm in are in mid-combat, so they're moving along at an acceptable pace.

I've got no idea how the kingdom-building starts, other than us having decided that the Stag Lord's fort will be our first building site, and most of what Servayn is working on would require some sort of extended Diplomacy action or whatever (to sell Norkyl on the community / agriculture / whatever business would make the kobolds better neighbors, and then, the rest of the tribe). As part of level 5 upgrade, Servayn intends to pick up a skill rank in Profession (farmer) and a skill rank in Knowledge (religion), so that he can at least provide some useful basic knowledge to help in this kobold civilization project (and both might be useful for later work with human settlers).

Are there encounters built into the AP, or 'side-quests' like 'find Svetlana's ring' or 'kill Razortusk,' that could be used to spice things up and keep us active?

I'd might've considered signing up for Jade if I wasn't already in one.

What are the names for the castle and city going to be? Are we gonna roll with Set's? Those names work for me.

And I have no idea how kingdom building works either.

As games keep fizzing out of existence, I'm seriously thinking of running Jade Regent in Golarion.

Thoughts? Interest?

Also, posting has slowed down quite a bit. Anything I can do to help?

And to answer the original question...I'd love to play in a Jade Regent game. :-)

Janku would like to sell his existing armor, and shield, and have a custom set of +1 Full Plate, and +1 Heavy steel shield. Painted with intertwined roses for honor of his goddess.

Nest on the list would be a wand of Cure light...which if the party wanted to chip in...

Of course, the way our Jade is going, it's possible I might get kicked to the curb, so who knows.

Anyhow, I'm curious as to how much money we have?

Thanks for your comments. I'll try and list what's left to figure out for the kingdom part. Mostly, this is taken from old posts:

On Kingdom building:
Ruler - Cha: Kalsgrim
Spymaster - Dex or Int: Corso

Magister - Int or Cha: Servayn
Marshall - Dex or Wis: Garick Nowicki

Treasurer - Int or Wis: Lukasz 

General - Str or Cha: Tuck

Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha: 

High Priest - Wis or Cha: 
Janku
Councilor - Wis or Cha 

Royal Assassin - Str or Dex: 
Davor
Warden - Str or Con: Kriger

The two vacant positions would be interviewed for... Who would you like to look at for the vacant positions?

1. I need a final comment on the name of the kingdom, its alignment and the name of its capital.

On cash:
About cash, the total before starting the second stage will come up to around 17,000 gp. Some might go to the kingdom chest (Restov will put some also), but you should plan for around 4,000 gp each to spend. 2. There is a 1,000 gp available for the wand of Cure light wounds.

There will be plenty of time to order items, but I would like you to present me with what you would like to buy first, especially if it comes from elsewhere than Core.

3. Show me a list of what you wish to buy with your gold, including the 3,500 gp.

In game:
4. Servayn is trying to figure out the markings on the kobold map. Anyone can help. Perhaps some of you have a spell for those things...

5. An emissary of Restov is coming to visit you and decide upon your right to found a barony. (I'm about to have the emissary arrive. This will set the kingdom-building part in motion. We'll then run month per month for a bit, then back to exploration.)

I hope this helps. Let me know if I forgot something.

I was personally waiting the DM or something to say something. All I see is that you said "need names" or something ooc and I don't know what you mean.

been reading through JR (Adventure path subscriber) and really it just doesn't hit me like the older APs do or this one does.

Not saying don't run it I'm just saying that I don't get too much of a sense of adventure out of it, but I didn't read it fully and that's just my 2 cp.

I only read them to post up the monsters online, however our Queues on d20pfsrd have been slowed down as of late.

Thanks for your comments. I'll try and list what's left to figure out for the kingdom part. Mostly, this is taken from old posts:

On Kingdom building:
Ruler - Cha: Kalsgrim
Spymaster - Dex or Int: Corso

Magister - Int or Cha: Servayn
Marshall - Dex or Wis: Garick Nowicki

Treasurer - Int or Wis: Lukasz 

General - Str or Cha: Tuck

Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha: 

High Priest - Wis or Cha: 
Janku
Councilor - Wis or Cha 

Royal Assassin - Str or Dex: 
Davor
Warden - Str or Con: Kriger

The two vacant positions would be interviewed for... Who would you like to look at for the vacant positions?

1. I need a final comment on the name of the kingdom, its alignment and the name of its capital.

On cash:
About cash, the total before starting the second stage will come up to around 17,000 gp. Some might go to the kingdom chest (Restov will put some also), but you should plan for around 4,000 gp each to spend. 2. There is a 1,000 gp available for the wand of Cure light wounds.

There will be plenty of time to order items, but I would like you to present me with what you would like to buy first, especially if it comes from elsewhere than Core.

3. Show me a list of what you wish to buy with your gold, including the 3,500 gp.

In game:
4. Servayn is trying to figure out the markings on the kobold map. Anyone can help. Perhaps some of you have a spell for those things...

5. An emissary of Restov is coming to visit you and decide upon your right to found a barony. (I'm about to have the emissary arrive. This will set the kingdom-building part in motion. We'll then run month per month for a bit, then back to exploration.)

I hope this helps. Let me know if I forgot something.

Let's find out what Svetlana and Oleg want. I suggest we take them into our kingdom to help fill out positions.

Where is the 3500 gold from?

I got no problems with Set's last suggestion on names.

You can't go wrong with Svetlana and Oleg.

Will get back to you on what to buy.

Also, I'm curious if there were xp's given out for the last few encounters?

I could've easily missed something somewhere about them, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Alright. I know what I want to buy. An adamantine Greataxe. That's 3,020 gold.

On Kingdom building:
Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha: 

Councilor - Wis or Cha: 


The two vacant positions would be interviewed for... Who would you like to look at for the vacant positions?

Jhod (old blind? cleric), Kesten (leader of soldiers that came from Restov), Oleg, Svetlana and Nadhalia (the lady we rescued from the Stag Lord's fort).

1. I need a final comment on the name of the kingdom, its alignment and the name of its capital.

Names suggested that I recall (and weren't jokes like Otisberg and Doomstadt); Frieland, Sarlund, Reyklund, Providence, Grimstadt, Stag's Ford, Hartland, Lindholm, Strielheim, Sundstrom

Something like Hartland or Frieland for the kingdom, and Stag's Ford for the capital (which will be built on the Stag Lord's fort, near two river crossings), perhaps? Frieland should be appealing enough to Brevic sorts, and have a particular appeal to River Kingdoms sorts, with their 'river freedoms' and loathing of slavery.

If we are going to end up with multiple towns/cities, perhaps each PC should get to name one eventually?

My vote for kingdom alignment is Lawful Good. Servayn is neither lawful, nor good, but would readily agree that it would be a nicer world to live in if everyone else was...

Like all would-be 'noblemen,' he'd love for the hoi-polloi to be obedient and selfless, with little or no ambition or inclination towards treachery or revolution. :)

'"Do as I say, not as I do," shall be the whole of the law.'

On cash:

3. Show me a list of what you wish to buy with your gold, including the 3,500 gp.

lesser metamagic rod of extend - 3000 gp

In game:

4. Servayn is trying to figure out the markings on the kobold map. Anyone can help. Perhaps some of you have a spell for those things...

If Janku can't prep a relevant spell, Servayn will hit up Lukasz to see if he happens to know something useful. Since he can already read it, and it seems to remain obscure, Servayn will cast detect magic to see if the map has some magic concealing or confusing its true meaning.

5. An emissary of Restov is coming to visit you and decide upon your right to found a barony. (I'm about to have the emissary arrive. This will set the kingdom-building part in motion. We'll then run month per month for a bit, then back to exploration.)

I hope this helps. Let me know if I forgot something.

I like Providence for the capital.

Not sure I'm sold on Stag's Ford. I think it's because it's too reminding of the Stag Lord.

As far as the kingdom names Set just mentioned, either of those are fine.

I like Stagfall as a name for the town to grow up around the fortress. Providence sounds like a great name for the nation or a city within. I can see the flyers for it as we encourage settlers to come: “Providence awaits you!”

I’m not sure what the attributes or preferences would be, but Kalsgrim would approach Oleg and Svetlana to serve in the government, perhaps in the remaining positions.

I have to admit I’m a bit confused about the 3500 gps to spend as well. Is that in addition or instead of the 4000?

Jade Regent? Yes, please. If you feel up to running it, I’d love to play in it. Perhaps I’ll reinvent Rabbit for it…

I too have noticed a slowdown in most of my games. I’m not sure why at all, but it has been pretty much across the board in all of my pbp’s here. Perhaps back to school?

Kalsgrim would want to sell his magical scale armor in favor of other equipment, but keep his longsword. He’d like to pay to have the enchantment increased on the Stag Lord’s bow. I’ll have to give some thoughts on magic item’s he’d like to get. Surely a headband for charisma, but I’m not sure what else.

Where is the 3500 gold from?

My fault: edited only half the post. 4,000 gp each, with 1,000 left for the group. That includes the 5,000 gp you'll be getting from Restov.

There are still unclaimed items in my profile.

Also, I'm curious if there were xp's given out for the last few encounters?

I could've easily missed something somewhere about them, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Alright. I know what I want to buy. An adamantine Greataxe. That's 3,020 gold.

I'm not sure if I've mentioned it earlier. I thought I did, and if I didn't, my apologies: I'm not counting xp. I'll level the PCs following the storyline. Let me know if any of you has issues about this.

There are still unclaimed items in my profile.

Kalsgrim seriously needs to wear that Stag Lord's helm, after we clean it up a little and make it look all noble and stuff.

I vaguely recall Corso expressing interest, but with him currently stuck in NPC status, it would be more useful on someone else's head, until such a time as DW would be able to play Corso again.

Kingdom will be lawful good. Set's suggestion wasn't challenged, so I take it we have consensus.

Unfortunately, suggestions for names are not converging to a consensus. How do you want to settle this? Do you want me to make the call or, as someone suggested, each player chooses on a city's name? With perhaps Kalsgrim choosing the name of the kingdom?

Kingdom Leadership's Suggestion:
Ruler - Cha: Kalsgrim
Spymaster - Dex or Int: Corso

Magister - Int or Cha: Servayn
Marshall - Dex or Wis: Garick Nowicki

Treasurer - Int or Wis: Oleg
General - Str or Cha: Tuck

Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha: 
Lukasz 

High Priest - Wis or Cha: 
Janku
Councilor - Wis or Cha: Svetlana

Royal Assassin - Str or Dex: 
Davor
Warden - Str or Con: Kriger

We have some consensus on Oleg and Svetlana. They can be convinced to take a greater part and will join Baron Kalsgrim's High Council early enough to count them in.

Everyone ok with this lineup?

Other Mastermind wrote:

There are still unclaimed items in my profile.

Kalsgrim seriously needs to wear that Stag Lord's helm, after we clean it up a little and make it look all noble and stuff.

I vaguely recall Corso expressing interest, but with him currently stuck in NPC status, it would be more useful on someone else's head, until such a time as DW would be able to play Corso again.

I agree. Kal, do you want the helm to be your crown or your warcrown?

Also, I'm curious if there were xp's given out for the last few encounters?

I could've easily missed something somewhere about them, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Alright. I know what I want to buy. An adamantine Greataxe. That's 3,020 gold.

I've wondered about the limits on spending. WBL for you should be 6,000, therefore, I'll allow for spending up to 3,000 on a single item, but would warn you that it might leave some of you with big holes either in offence or defence.

I have huge issues with adamantine (I have seen it completely abused and don't want to get near that experience) and will houserule it to ignore some of the hardness, but never all of it. I am not sure how to do it yet though. So hold on the adamantine greataxe. Please make suggestions.

lesser metamagic rod of extend - 3000 gp

+1 cloak of resistance - 1000 gp

Sold!

Kalsgrim would want to sell his magical scale armor in favor of other equipment, but keep his longsword. He’d like to pay to have the enchantment increased on the Stag Lord’s bow. I’ll have to give some thoughts on magic item’s he’d like to get. Surely a headband for charisma, but I’m not sure what else.

You can sell your things for half value. Given the time you have, you can pay the difference to increase your bow. Please keep the 3,000 gp limit in mind for the value of a single item.

You're a long way from the headband I think. And wouldn't it clash with the stag helm? ;-p

Internet was down in hotel last night. Should be able to catch up tonight. Feel free to DMPC me if not.

Took me a while to try and come up with some magic items. Was tempted to go for a belt of giant strength +2, but it seemed like a waste.

If at all possible I'd like a +1 to be added to my greatsword 2,000 gp

+1 Chainmail 1300 gp

Masterworked Heavy Repeating Crossbow 700 gp

And then use my own money to buy some clips.

5 Crossbow Repeater Cartriges x5 5 gp

I assume we can get someone to enhance my sword.

By my maths that's all 4k and some cash out of my own pocket for the cartiges.

Edit: Selling old chainmail for 50% as per normal rules for selling second-hand. 75 gp

Janku has +1 Chainmail for sale.

Took me a while to try and come up with some magic items. Was tempted to go for a belt of giant strength +2, but it seemed like a waste.

If at all possible I'd like a +1 to be added to my greatsword 2,000 gp

+1 Chainmail 1300 gp

Masterworked Heavy Repeating Crossbow 700 gp

And then use my own money to buy some clips.

5 Crossbow Repeater Cartriges x5 5 gp

I assume we can get someone to enhance my sword.

By my maths that's all 4k and some cash out of my own pocket for the cartiges.

Edit: Selling old chainmail for 50% as per normal rules for selling second-hand. 75 gp

Janku has +1 Chainmail for sale.

I assume that's one of the PCs?

I agree. Kal, do you want the helm to be your crown or your warcrown?

Um, neither! It is a fashion statement, and nothing more! ;)

War and ceremonial, please. :) Did we ever determine the specifics of any enchantments on it?

And, Kalsgrim is good with a LG kingdom. Emphasis will be on the G, but definitely no lack of L.

Davor: Janku is the PC for Scranford.

Other Mastermind wrote:

I agree. Kal, do you want the helm to be your crown or your warcrown?

Um, neither! It is a fashion statement, and nothing more! ;)

War and ceremonial, please. :) Did we ever determine the specifics of any enchantments on it?

And, Kalsgrim is good with a LG kingdom. Emphasis will be on the G, but definitely no lack of L.

Davor: Janku is the PC for Scranford.

You haven't figured the enchantments yet.

Here’s what I’m proposing. If anyone wants to target changes, please do so.

The Barony of Hartland:
Capital: Providence, centered around Oleg's trading post.
First Town: Stagfall, centered around the Stag Lord's old fort.

The A-Team:
Ruler - Cha: Kalsgrim
Spymaster - Dex or Int: Corso
Magister - Int or Cha: Servayn
Marshall - Dex or Wis: Garick
Treasurer - Int or Wis: Oleg
General - Str or Cha: Tuck
Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha: 
Lukasz 

High Priest - Wis or Cha: 
Janku
Councilor - Wis or Cha: Svetlana
Royal Assassin - Str or Dex: 
Davor
Warden - Str or Con: Kriger

I’m thinking Oleg’s post for the capital since it is further away from the wilds still surrounding our territory, and first town at the fort to keep others from occupying it, and as a marker of the far end of the realm with a strong defensive position and strategic/trade importance. Thoughts?

For now, I'm looking at a Handy Haversack (2000gp) and a Cloak of Resistance +1 (1000gp, because his saves suck).

He'll hold onto the scale +1 for now and the rest of the cash for a later armor upgrade. He is also selling the six animal bane arrows, his old pack, blanket and torches and buying a few mundane items (kukri, studded leather armor, sunrod, holy symbol and spare clothes). He’ll also spend 5gp on a chain of office (equivalent of a signet ring). After all is said and done, that would leave him with 1672gp, 8sp, 9cp.

Davor: Janku is the PC for Scranford.

Okey then. I assume buying it off him for half the store price?

markofbane wrote:

Davor: Janku is the PC for Scranford.

Okey then. I assume buying it off him for half the store price?

Win-win!

For now, I'm looking at a Handy Haversack (2000gp) and a Cloak of Resistance +1 (1000gp, because his saves suck).

He'll hold onto the scale +1 for now and the rest of the cash for a later armor upgrade. He is also selling the six animal bane arrows, his old pack, blanket and torches and buying a few mundane items (kukri, studded leather armor, sunrod, holy symbol and spare clothes). He’ll also spend 5gp on a chain of office (equivalent of a signet ring). After all is said and done, that would leave him with 1672gp, 8sp, 9cp.

Good.

Hopefully Janku's specially ordered armor and shield can arrive in time to leave again. Tastefully decorated Full Plate, painted Blood red, with Rose red roses growing out of it, with Matching Heavy Steel Shield. Both magically enchanted to protect the tender flesh of Milani's most humble servant (If he ever makes it to a battle on time at his speed :-))

+1 Full Plate (2,650) + 100 for custom paint job (2,750)*

+1 Heavy Sheild (1,170) + 50 for custom paint job (1,270)*

*I'll take a rank in Profession:Artist next level to keep it looking sharp.

Selling +1 Chainmail to Davor for 650gp, and MW shield to whoever for half value as well.

Hopefully Janku's specially ordered armor and shield can arrive in time to leave again. Tastefully decorated Full Plate, painted Blood red, with Rose red roses growing out of it, with Matching Heavy Steel Shield. Both magically enchanted to protect the tender flesh of Milani's most humble servant (If he ever makes it to a battle on time at his speed :-))

+1 Full Plate (2,650) + 100 for custom paint job (2,750)*

+1 Heavy Sheild (1,170) + 50 for custom paint job (1,270)*

*I'll take a rank in Profession:Artist next level to keep it looking sharp.

Selling +1 Chainmail to Davor for 650gp, and MW shield to whoever for half value as well.

Sounds good!

I added a Kingdom Sheet to my profile. More later...

I'm not sure if I've mentioned it earlier. I thought I did, and if I didn't, my apologies: I'm not counting xp. I'll level the PCs following the storyline. Let me know if any of you has issues about this.

You probably did. I just forgot.

I have huge issues with adamantine (I have seen it completely abused and don't want to get near that experience) and will houserule it to ignore some of the hardness, but never all of it. I am not sure how to do it yet though. So hold on the adamantine greataxe. Please make suggestions.

No big deal, but I am curious as to how this is abused?

The reason I ask is because I had a RL dwarf fighter that used one, and I've never run into problems.

And from the Core, adamantine only ignores up to hardness less than 20. So technically, there is a limit. It can't bypass all of it.

Just curious.

Is selling my Mwk Studded for half, cool? That's like 87.5 gold. Which would be 87 rounded down, I guess. Is that how we do it or what?

Other Mastermind wrote:

I have huge issues with adamantine (I have seen it completely abused and don't want to get near that experience)

No big deal, but I am curious as to how this is abused?

It's less abused to sunder stuff, and more abused, in my experience, to chop one's way through dungeons, since stone only has a hardness of 8 or so.

Having an adamantine weapon just flat out halve the Hardness of something it hits might be more palatable (so it would make a great digging tool, but not be able to slice through a wall of iron like butter), although, in that case, the price could also be reduced to half the prices listed in the book.

The price would drop to +1500 gp. for an adamantine greataxe, and it would only ignore half the Hardness of a target struck.

Is selling my Mwk Studded for half, cool? That's like 87.5 gold. Which would be 87 rounded down, I guess. Is that how we do it or what?

Yes 87 gp and 5 sp.

+1 Mithral Chain Shirt; 2100g

Mwk Greataxe improved to +1 Greataxe; 2000g

Leaves me with 11g and 5s

Let me know if this is cool.