GM SpiderBeard's Second Darkness (DrEvil Group) (Inactive)

Game Master Barvo Delancy

Chapter 4: Endless Night

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F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5

Then Saphren can take the MW leather instead - it affects her skills almost not at all.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

And Vris might be better off in medium armor at some point. If Saphren does take the leather, you could grab his current lamellar leather that grants 4 points of AC.


F Gnome Sorceror (Bedrock) 6 | HP 35/35 | AC 19 T 13 FF 17 (+2 dodge bonus vs. aberrations, oozes and vermin) | Ft +6 Rf +6 Wi +7 (+2 vs illusions) | Perc +10 (+2 for stonework) | Init +6 | Spells 8/8 6/6 3/4 | Tremor 8/8

The bracers are best to sell, you can get a haramaki that gives the exact same armor bonus for 3 gp, a wand of mage armor that gives you +4 for an hour at a time for 750, or a suit of leather armor made of darkleaf cloth for 750+cost of leather armor for +2 and no spell failure chance. The wand is only 135, which is around 70 when sold, so might as well use it instead.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

Well said.


Loot, Appraise, Fencing - or how do I get ready cash.

1) for most mundane items that are listed as purchaseable on PRD (armor, gear, weapons etc) you will know the value. We will assume the sale price is 50% the PRD list price unless it is an especially rare or fine item.

2) For real loot, like gems, art, etc you will need a DC 20 Appraise check to determine the amount. Aid another can be used. Right now Blossom has the best appraise score at +4. Missing the DC 20 roll by 5 or less will get an approx value or range. Missing by more than 5 will get you a wide range or bad value. For selling these items, the buyer will also do an Appraise check to see if he knows the value and offers an accurate price.

3) to the extent you want to RP the sales, Diplomacy, Bluff (maybe intimidate?) will affect the sales price in some cases, usually with a DC 20 or higher roll. Aiding these will have to be well-RP'ed to count. I would guess you'd only do this on truly valuable things, not 50 gp gems, but up to you. Normally the re-sale price will be around 50% of the actual value, but may vary by die rolls or knowledge.

4) Same is true for selling magic items. If you have the 1000gp Bracers and you want to sell them, the correctly offered price will be 500gp, but that pre-supposes a good Appraise by the buyer and no undue influence from you. Also have to find willing buyer for some things. If you haven't identified them first, then who know what will happen.

5) Appraise rolls need to list what they are being rolled for, either by number from the list or Loot Tracker or by short name.

any questions?


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

No questions. I get how it works, but would rather not be too bogged down with that part of the game. How about we know the going rate for standard items at least. A dagger is 2 gold. All the stores sell them for 2 gold. Most will buy them back, if in good shape for a gold. If its a commonly sold item, even a master work one there is a market price that it goes for in a reasonable sized city. That still lets us appraise non-standard items.


Yep. See #1 above. Most standard items will be at book value and resold at half that.


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Looks like we need to request access to the loot tracker. Is there a way to make it public? Also my untrained nat. 20 appraise should suffice here, but I'll be investing in the skill next level and might even grab skill focus down the track somewhere.


Access to view should be granted now. Sorry. The natural 20 should give you value of one of those items (the wand or the bracers) which? The rest of the loot is mundane in nature and hence you know the value.

Are any of you interested in claiming any of that stuff? I'm not sure how fair shares work when there is a 1000gp item out there unless you're going to hold someone in negative amounts instead.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

We have barely met and are certainly not a party yet. I think its over meta gaming to arrange a long term loot division scheme just yet.

Was one of the suits of armor master work? Is that something that is obvious on inspection, or is an appraise required for to notice that?


You choose how you split the stuff, no problem. The MW armor is obvious on inspection, it's fine craftsmanship is easily apparent.


F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5
Magnus Ironfoot wrote:
Also I'm trying to think of some strange traditional dwarvish way to seal an agreement to play for the laughs. Alas, I'm at a loss.

Demand that you and he each quaff a large tankard of very strong, alcoholic beverage in one gulp to seal the deal. If he is unable to stomach such a large quantity of fine grog he obviously doesn't have enough moral fortitude to uphold his end of the bargain either. That sounds pretty dwarvish to me...


Witch (White-Haired Witch)/4 HP: 15/21 Spells 0/5 1st, 0/3 2nd AC 12 12 10 F+1 R+5 W+3 Per+3 Init+2

Ok, I just left a PbP campaign because what I felt was a miscommunication got way out of hand rapidly, so I want to be certain before I potentially exacerbate the situation, that the conflict I perceive as brewing between Blossom & Reva is strictly an IC 'Iomedean Inquisitor having problems with a Calistrian Witch' thing. If I have gotten offensive, please let me know.

edit: The more I think about it, the more I conclude I need to step back from PbP for a bit. I am going to be AFK for about a week Dr. Evil, please 'bot' me if needful.


F Half-Elf NG Inquisitor 5 | HP 23/27 | AC 20 T 12 FF 18 | CMB +5 CMD 17 | F +3 R +4 W +6 | Init +7 | Perc +12 | Judge 2/2 | Bane 5/5 | Spells: 5/5, 3/3 | Relentless (6/day) | 29 CLW Charges

Augh! No! Please, this is not ooc at all. I'm intentionally playing a prickly character who is mean and takes to insult very easily - the goal being that she matures and develops as the campaign goes on. I have absolutely no ooc issue with you or your character who I'm in fact extremely impressed by.

My most sincere apologies, I had absolutely no intention of upsetting you personally. I am not a PbP veteran so I was unaware what was, or what was not appropriate.


Bu, send me a PM to discuss. We will move on in your absence.


No one claiming any of this stuff and want it all turned into cash by Saul V?

1) Wand of Shocking Grasp
2) A sickle
3) Bracers of Armor +1
4) A spellbook
5) A belt pouch with 33gp
6) MW leather armor
7) A rapier
8) A light crossbow and 10 bolts
9) A belt pouch with 17gp
10) 6 short swords
11) 6 saps
12) 6 leather armor

Claim it today or it'll move along.


F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5

Vris will be fine with coin for her share.


F Gnome Sorceror (Bedrock) 6 | HP 35/35 | AC 19 T 13 FF 17 (+2 dodge bonus vs. aberrations, oozes and vermin) | Ft +6 Rf +6 Wi +7 (+2 vs illusions) | Perc +10 (+2 for stonework) | Init +6 | Spells 8/8 6/6 3/4 | Tremor 8/8

I think Bu expressed interest in the wand and the spellbook, and Saphren in the masterwork armor.


Yep, I'll mark those as such.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

Right -just the armor. Saphren already has a sap.


F Half-Elf NG Inquisitor 5 | HP 23/27 | AC 20 T 12 FF 18 | CMB +5 CMD 17 | F +3 R +4 W +6 | Init +7 | Perc +12 | Judge 2/2 | Bane 5/5 | Spells: 5/5, 3/3 | Relentless (6/day) | 29 CLW Charges

Reva has no interest in the above goodies.


Sale of those items with the 20% mark up from usual sale price equals 714 gp, divided 6 ways, that's 119 each, plus 50 each from Vancaskerkin, plus 6 way share of 50 gp found on robbers =8.33 gp.

This means everyone gets 177.33gp in addition to what they had before. Loot tracker is updated with those coins on second page. First page is items not sold.


Witch (White-Haired Witch)/4 HP: 15/21 Spells 0/5 1st, 0/3 2nd AC 12 12 10 F+1 R+5 W+3 Per+3 Init+2

After the fact, I realized a further contributing factor was that last week was finals week for my accelerated college class. I have three five-week classes, of which one just finished, so I believe that in the interests of not having another episode like this past week, I will likely be taking another hiatus when my next final comes up in about a month.

Yes, I'm back.

Edit: Dr. Evil, how difficult is it to find spell scrolls in Riddleport?


F Half-Elf NG Inquisitor 5 | HP 23/27 | AC 20 T 12 FF 18 | CMB +5 CMD 17 | F +3 R +4 W +6 | Init +7 | Perc +12 | Judge 2/2 | Bane 5/5 | Spells: 5/5, 3/3 | Relentless (6/day) | 29 CLW Charges

Welcome back!


Witch (White-Haired Witch)/4 HP: 15/21 Spells 0/5 1st, 0/3 2nd AC 12 12 10 F+1 R+5 W+3 Per+3 Init+2

Reva, I apologize & I can only say that I am a bad, bad person...

But Blossom has control of her hair...

She doesn't need to get your pants off to get into them...


F Half-Elf NG Inquisitor 5 | HP 23/27 | AC 20 T 12 FF 18 | CMB +5 CMD 17 | F +3 R +4 W +6 | Init +7 | Perc +12 | Judge 2/2 | Bane 5/5 | Spells: 5/5, 3/3 | Relentless (6/day) | 29 CLW Charges

I need an adult!


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Heh, this is aually where a year-long pbp. Left off in my last attempt at second darkness. Glad wwe're jumping ahead to the real plot :p


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

A little at a loss what to post here. Not exactly my area of expertise.


It's okay, any ideas on how Magnus might improve the Gold Goblin or spend his down time? We'll move it along soon.


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Knowledge Engineering or untrained cooking checks are all I have to work with, haha. I think I'll wait until things progress. Has that PFS gameday thread started up? I'm worried I'll miss the memo and not be prepared.


I will be opening the thread tomorrow, I think. The game is supposed to start officially on 10/5. I'll track you down...


F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5
DM DoctorEvil wrote:
I will be opening the thread tomorrow, I think. The game is supposed to start officially on 10/5. I'll track you down...

Aww crap. I forgot all about the PbP gameday stuff...


Witch (White-Haired Witch)/4 HP: 15/21 Spells 0/5 1st, 0/3 2nd AC 12 12 10 F+1 R+5 W+3 Per+3 Init+2

Guys, sorry I haven't made any posts recently. I keep meaning to & then things happen. I will post later tonight, I promise!


Me too


Vris Fontessa wrote:
DM DoctorEvil wrote:
I will be opening the thread tomorrow, I think. The game is supposed to start officially on 10/5. I'll track you down...
Aww crap. I forgot all about the PbP gameday stuff...

If you want to give it a go, I just lost a player in Silent Tide game. The recruitment thread is here.

Really need a healer type if you want to get on before we start late tonight/tomorrow.


F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5
DM DoctorEvil wrote:
Vris Fontessa wrote:
DM DoctorEvil wrote:
I will be opening the thread tomorrow, I think. The game is supposed to start officially on 10/5. I'll track you down...
Aww crap. I forgot all about the PbP gameday stuff...

If you want to give it a go, I just lost a player in Silent Tide game. The recruitment thread is here.

Really need a healer type if you want to get on before we start late tonight/tomorrow.

Sure, that would be good, and a healer is fine by me. Please remind me - what are the requirements again? PFS legal?


Yep. That's it. Tier 1 so first level is fine.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

Wish I could play, but I have already played it. I could replay for no credit if you end up needing someone. Officially I can only do that to make a table (i.e. be a 4th player). Sort of a dumb rule if you ask me.

You guys have a blast.


Thanks, Saphren. I have a legal table, but one player (of 6) had to bail at the last minute and the group wants a healer (for some reason...). I remembered Vris saying she missed the application time for PBP Day, and tried to connect the two. Kicks off later tonight!


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Thanks for botting me, I was far, far away from home and my battery died on me, and was worried I wouldn't be able to check in for a while. Sorry for the wait.


The First Night - Post Combat summary

Blossom - 4/7 hp;
Magnus - 2 NL hp dmg; 1 thrown axe;
Reva - judgement used
Saphren - 4 NL hp dmg;
Trig - 2 tremors used, 1 color spray cast
Vris - Command cast;


F Half-Elf NG Inquisitor 5 | HP 23/27 | AC 20 T 12 FF 18 | CMB +5 CMD 17 | F +3 R +4 W +6 | Init +7 | Perc +12 | Judge 2/2 | Bane 5/5 | Spells: 5/5, 3/3 | Relentless (6/day) | 29 CLW Charges

As a heads up I'm visiting family and then at a conference for this week. Daily posts -should- be unaffected, but I may be a little less frequent.


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps

Saphren is trained in Knowledge Local and Intimidate. Besides that he is somewhat preceptive.

Options I can think of for him include 1) helping locate the type of client we are looking for, whatever/whoever that is, 2) Maybe scaring off the unruly types at the door and noticing any concealed weapon (could use some help here as he is only +5 with perception), and 3) I am not necessarily recommending this, but, causing trouble at other gambling halls.

Hmm, he could also find if there was word on the street of upcoming potential problems for us.

And a 5 skill in acrobatics he could help entertain. I can imagine some type of show with him and Blossom's hair and Reva's whip, and Trigs general good charisma. But Saphren would not suggest such a thing. and might need to be talked into it. :)


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Magnus was planning on taking Appraise and Profession at level 2. What I should have done is take that now and save Knowledge: Dungeoneering and friends for later. With the Doc's permission I might shuffle around my skills, but if not Magnus doesn't have a hell of a lot to contribute.


Can you throw an aid at someone?


F Gnome Sorceror (Bedrock) 6 | HP 35/35 | AC 19 T 13 FF 17 (+2 dodge bonus vs. aberrations, oozes and vermin) | Ft +6 Rf +6 Wi +7 (+2 vs illusions) | Perc +10 (+2 for stonework) | Init +6 | Spells 8/8 6/6 3/4 | Tremor 8/8

Any possibility we could rejigger our skills now that we know this is going to be, at least for the first level or two, more about social interaction than fighting? I'd like to put a rank in diplomacy and Bluff, maybe? Magnus could put a rank in Profession. Or maybe give us one bonus skill rank to put some place?


I would prefer not to change skill sets around. This is a minor part of the AP so don't over-react.

Saphren: all those are good ideas. Pick one you want to work on this week and make the associated roll.

Magnus: Just pick something and give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?


F Half-elf NG Cleric 1 | AC 15 T 12 FF 13 | HP 8/8 | CMB +1 CMD 13 | F +3 R +3 W +6 (+2/+1) | Init +2 | Perc +5

Hi guys. Sorry I haven't been posting daily - things have gotten a little hairy for me since last week, and don't look like they're going to settle down until next week at the earliest. Until then I won't be able to check the game postings or post reliably - I can only beg forgiveness and ask that the GM run my character as an NPC until then. :(


M Half Orc Unchained Rogue 8 (Scout) | AC 23/25 vs traps T 16 FF 18 | CMB +11 CMD 27 | HP 87/87| F +7 R +13(15 vs traps) W +6 | Init +6 | Perc +17/23 vs traps
DM DoctorEvil wrote:

I would prefer not to change skill sets around. This is a minor part of the AP so don't over-react.

Saphren: all those are good ideas. Pick one you want to work on this week and make the associated roll.

Magnus: Just pick something and give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?

I have to choose one? Seems like I could work the door to prevent weapons ( I have to do this as we were asked to do it) and also ply my knowledge local too... Here are my rolls in order of my priority.

Perception for Weapons: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21

Knowledge Local for upcoming trouble: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (12) + 5 = 17

Knowledge Local looking for clients: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (2) + 5 = 7


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

We were approximately at this pooint after a year (yes, that's right, a year) of game time. I'm applauding your decision to skip to the good stuff.

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