GM Chyro |
Normally in a TPK, it costs 5 PP for each person's body to be recovered.
In this case it's a TPH (total party hostage), you can each buy it off with 2 PP and a recovery of 2 str penalty and the natural healing of HP, according to the amount of days the rescue team takes to get to you.
If you want to fight, that's up to you. You keep your PP and current penalties, but risking more of it, and potentially your life if he crits.
Which i doubt he will.
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Considering these two, being idle would mean you undergo more experiments if the derro wins the fight (assuming people still want to fight).
Seeing the result of that, the prisoners you found earlier, you'd take 1 con dmg and 1 wis dmg in the process, for the remainder of the mission.
Thus you keep the PP, but take an additional penalty due to his continuing his experiments for the rest of the mission, despite the rescue team showing up.
This is winging an unusual situation, so that is a proposition. :/
Shonne |
I'd rather get tortured for pretend than replay the last two weeks and be tortured for real. Just saying.... I've got 5 PP.
Tell you what if you let me spend all 10 can an +1 derro bane anvil of daylight drop from the ceiling on top of the derro? ;)
GM Chyro |
That would be funny to see....
But to our situation: with Brallenera wanting to break out, it'll still be 3 vs 1, taking Shonne's place as i understand it will be, but the derro wields a ranged weapon with (ironically) 3 bolts left.
Ala'Ihys, Brallenera & Joseph, you still want to fight?
It's all fine with me, but a devided team can unfortunately freeze pace.
I need a clear view of the situation.
GM Chyro |
Come on team, he's just got 2 bolts left before he has to resort to melee.
Payback time!
GM Chyro |
Why....why is there a puffcake cat shooting rainbows from its rear even in google?
Shonne |
Tell you what. I'll go to town buy an everburning torch and be back before you know it.
And I'm not really sure how Ala'Ihys is making perception checks (to guess where the derro is) without actually making perception checks.
Ala’Ihys the Archer |
does he need to make perception checks? I thought that's why he had to roll the blooming 50%
edit: a quick perusal of the rules:
Ignoring Concealment
Concealment isn't always effective. An area of dim lighting or darkness doesn't provide any concealment against an opponent with darkvision. Characters with low-light vision can see clearly for a greater distance than other characters with the same light source. Although invisibility provides total concealment, sighted opponents may still make Perception checks to notice the location of an invisible character. An invisible character gains a +20 bonus on Stealth checks if moving, or a +40 bonus on Stealth checks when not moving (even though opponents can't see you, they might be able to figure out where you are from other visual or auditory clues).
we are not looking for invisible people, we are effectively blind (that's what GM Chyro said)
Blinded
The creature cannot see. It takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a –4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight) automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.
Nothing else is listed, so I presume we are not blind people looking for invisible people.
GM Chyro |
Yeah, you can't exactly pinpoint enemies if you can't see them.
It'd be a DC 20 for invisibility + modifier, like distance.
If you'd seen the enemy and act before they get their turn, then yup.
Reason i was kind of leaving in the slightly plausible, is due to knowing what is still up ahead.
Edit: You're going to love the next mission, btw. ;)
Ala’Ihys the Archer |
Total Concealment
If you have line of effect to a target but not line of sight, he is considered to have total concealment from you. You can't attack an opponent that has total concealment, though you can attack into a square that you think he occupies. A successful attack into a square occupied by an enemy with total concealment has a 50% miss chance (instead of the normal 20% miss chance for an opponent with concealment).
when you attack with concealment 50% you area attacking a square, when you are rolling perception to find an invisible person you are rolling to attack them.
It shouldn't have to be both.
GM Chyro |
Well hello, i only just saw your post before mine.
Lol.
While i can imagine your point, you technically have to determine what location, square here, the derro would be in.
Let's have our angry dwarfess split a skull and heal up for what's next.
GM Chyro |
My reasoning is, while the derro is practically invisible due to darkness, determining where he is after moving, requires perception.
He makes some sound while walking, but as you can't see, you've got to focus to determine where he went.
Working around it, is if someone who can see him.... *looks sideways :)*...tells you where he is, leaving you just the hit/miss %.
Or, with plausibility, when you've been shot at, then you could get a general idea of where it came from to return fire.
It it makes you feel any better, there's no more derros left in this mission to cast darkness.
Ala’Ihys the Archer |
Your the gm, you have the right to follow the rules the way you desire. I'm ok with your decision. I just would have appreciated your decision about the information at the beginning of the scene, combat, whatever.
It's frustrating to be doing something the way you think is proper and then later, much later, a discussion about it comes up and now it's the wrong way.
GM Chyro |
I apologize if i caused a confusion to that extend.
GM Chyro |
Ala'Ihys -6
Brallenera -7
Shonne -10
But you won't have the luxury of camping for days to do long term care and restore everything. This is an evil BBEG's lair and you've killed their torturer and other minions.
Something's bound to find you,...evil doesn't sleep. :)
Shonne |
True but facing Vader short (or one) handed only to find that the priceless Golden Anvils of Thoth we are here for where actually scaled to the size of their cloud giant creators wouldn't do either.
Ala’Ihys the Archer |
ok, we have gone to area 9 and been there 8 hours, are we headed toward the exit with the prisoners in tow to get bushwhacked or are we staying in area 9 for more rest to get bushwhacked? might be a good idea to funnel them through the door...
Ala'Ihys would assume they have more derro's so they would cast darkness and toss it in whatever room they were in. So knowing where the door they have to come through would be a perk. Brallenera could just yell "fire" when they were coming in.
of course that plan really sucks if their tossing fireballs instead of darkness ;)
GM Chyro |
Now that you mention it..... :)
Although, you could explore and bushwhack them before they do the bushwhacking to you.
Ala’Ihys the Archer |
we've been in here over 16 hours, and the derro hasn't been seen for 8,
I would think getting the injured people out or protecting them would be the first priority. I don't think any of us (except Brallenera) would think going after them would be a good idea and I don't think any of us {except Joseph) would be in any shape to do it.
But If the team decides to go bushwhacking Ala'Ihys will go with them. He is nothing if not Lawful Good.
GM Chyro |
So what's the verdict?
Ala'Ihys: Evacuate, follows if Brallenera's idea is followed.
Brallenera: Search & Destroy.
Joseph: ??
Shonne: Evacuate?
GM Chyro |
Ok.
You guys might want to heal up with the wand, 'things' probably stalk these halls now, in search of the trespassers.
Plus, what route will you take:
1) The big room where you fought the mite rogue and the corridor north?
2) Or west through the lab, then north?
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As you're going off track here with the prisoners:
Each had 0 HP and staggered from the start, and are now at 6 hp from long term care.
The dwarf will need his heal check every 60 feet, as he can only walk short distances.
Lyrehawk can move on her own.
The mentally scarred man won't easily move by himself, after what he's endured. DC 13 Intimidate or DC 16 Diplomacy can motivate him to follow Lyrehawk's walk to the exit in a turn.
Let's say Lyrehawk makes an attempt every turn on this.
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GM Chyro |
Actually, ser laurence of arabia, i've you at 19 now, since you were healed earlier with the wand.
Shonne |
*koff koff*
GM Chyro |
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At 4 HP. Tend to your resident elf lady too. :)
Brallenera Thalkham |
Let's spend a few CLW charges, If you agree.
I'll get a new one too- or maybe a few Restoration potions, it seems it can be very useful
CLWand,Shonne: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4
CLWand,Shonne: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4
CLWand,Shonne: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 1 = 8
CLWand,Brallenera: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4
CLWand,Brallenera: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6
CLWand,Brallenera: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
CLWand,Brallenera: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 1 = 7
GM Chyro |
Dice seem to love the mites.
Healthbars aren't that great atm, roll good and may i roll poor.
RP related to Joseph, this encounter was the opportunity i had been waiting for, when i read what diety this elf is a follower of.
GM Chyro |
Surprise round did 10.
With the 15 hp crit just now, that goes to -6 and unstable.
Come on man, i know you can do it, that stabilize roll.
GM Chyro |
Go on Brallenera, go roll a crit on a mite's head here.
Brallenera Thalkham |
Will spend my 5 PP to avoid TPK.
Can we pool PPs? I mean, it would be 20 PP to get us back, what if Sarenaen only got 3 PP and I have 7? Can I pay some for him?
GM Chyro |
That is a good question, as RP wise faithful don't outright kill fellow faithful.
But yes, he could avoid death by being brave sir robin and flee the place, thus abandoning the mission...and you.
GM Chyro |
Yes, akaik. I don't have the pdf on me.
But as you are alive, it's just 5 PP.
GM Chyro |
I'm waiting on what Joseph intends to do, abandon or not.
If he insists on getting you guys out, which he voiced already, Morilaeth will likely take offence and set him under watch, alive but unable to leave.
Rescue team will free you for 5 PP each.
GM Chyro |
Yet, you still receive 1 XP, as you've cleared 3 out of 4 fights in here.
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My dear Holmes, may i suggest a temporary admittance to the sanitarium?
:P
Or an exorcist?
Of course you know i'm pulling your leg, Joseph. ;)