
Veldrin d'Shraen |

I actually like Vincent as is and I think the synergy with Veldrin will be fun.

Vincent Fleming |

Meant Diva not Archaeologist now that I've looked at things....but all the same.
I agree he has some synergy with the others. I'm overlapping some already in play roles/characters. So I don't wanna feel like I will accidentally step on toes from time to time.
The main advantage to the other is, we don't really have a tank per say or heavy crowd control, which the other would provide. (Though I don't realize that we have the potential for all those in our group and in the characters like Grumblejack.) Plus, the synergy of the two classes is pretty nice.

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

Sorry guys. Don't expect something from me tonight. I worked 2 hours overtime today, to get home and eat only to get a work call. I'm still around, just RL decided to not be nice today.

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if you go bard/antipaladin I'd suggest arcane duelist and chose weapon bond as your divine bond
very nice synergy, the combo has an insane bonus to hit/damage, and makes for a good caster killer
that said I had to punch my punching bag when I saw you make a new character for this campaign that I couldn't get in (I'm fine now,)

Vincent Fleming |

Duelist takes away a bit much and gets Medium Armor Prof late in the game, Diva gets it quite early comparatively at 5th level and gets heavy at almost the same time Duelist gets Medium. The only reason I pushed him out early is because I feel I'm stepping on other's toes role wise and he would be filling a role no one else is (I think?!?!?!), via buffing, smiting, and crowd controlling. He also would be a bit better with the whole idea of having minions and such. (Though we were coming up with some good ideas for how Vincent could indeed make such). The introduction of the Mythic bit made me look at Vincent and I really am not sure where he would draw his "God" like powers from.

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ah defence, that does have a point, but there is a feat that so long as you have no spell failure for light it increases it to medium but I can't find it
and arcane duelist has much better offense
blade thirst (or it's mass version), arcane strike, smite and weapon bond all stack

Monkeygod |

Just curious Vincent, but where do you feel you're stepping on others' toes with your current build?
I don't think the Diva/Anti-Paladin is a bad idea, just that the Diva aspect seems odd.
Dirge Bard is pretty solid, and would really compliment Veldrin. I promise I won't mind you raising undead with me.
Is the main reason you are thinking Bard due to the party needing a buffer? Or are there other ideas to take.
Finally, if one of your main hang ups with Vincent's current build is wondering how you get Mythic power, that's often left up to the GM. Much of the time, and its usually a specific event, location, item, etc that grants the power.
Also, I have all three Mythic books for PF, so I can help any of the players out, as well as GM Blade with ideas, concepts, choices, etc :)

Vincent Fleming |

Well, ok so i was dropping ranger for slayer For the overall idea of the character. I digress a bit there. I felt a bit weird about the character for being a ramger when we already had one, for being a rogue pf sorts when we already had one, doing the poison thing when another player was already doing one, and i just felt a little wierd by the fact that my charaxter seems to double up on so many things with others. So i got to looking and tryin to see any glaring weaknesses in our group, and i thought hey bard/anti pally would be a lovely fit given the story and group make up.I think evol campaigns differently then normal because evil people dont like to share as much and someone messing with their groove may be worse then in a good campaign.

Vincent Fleming |

Well, for the diva aspect, (I plan on playing male so I guess Divo would be more appropriate) I was looking for a couple of things in my bardic requirements...1 must still have Versatile Performance, (Gives you even more skills for being skilly and with the ability to retrain skills in this...fantastic.) 2 the built in ability to gain freebie casting in heavier armor (Preferably at an early moment, Diva gets it at 5th for medium, and 10th for heavy FANTASTIC!!!), 3 the combat buff at the very least. A bard just isn't a bard to me if they can't boost their friends during their time of need. (Skills...I was always iffy with, I think people can handle their own on skills well enough.)
Those were my main reasons for picking diva, I originally was going with Archaeologist and I kinda disliked not being able to provide to the group. The GM reminded me about diva and so I looked through the entire list and fell upon his suggestion and felt it was quite a good fit. As for not going Arcane Duelist and such, we have quite a few heavy hitters...if I really wanted to be a heavy hitter, I would drop the whip and go for something far more punishing. (Like taking racial heritage to get the dwarven profs for free and rocking a dwarven longhammer or something)

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

Plus, the group has yet to meet Deirdre. ^^

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

I'm just waiting for my war razor back first before I summon Deirdre

Vincent Fleming |

General look and appearance....if no one got who this character is somewhat like by the name....
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx101/ATomcatForever/Profilepic_zps3692f 4c9.png
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/148/f/5/_dissidia_aces__final_round_ _locke_cole_by_callousvixen-d51czpq.png

Vincent Fleming |

Veldrin d'Shraen |

Hey Vincent, unless I'm missing something, we just killed the guards(save Miri) in room 17.

GM Blade of Heaven |

No Google Docs yet, Monkey, because I've been limited to my phone. Jan Term is over, so no school access, no home access, only my phone. Spring semester starts in a week, so the lulls should subside. Also, I should have a few more PDFs to add to the list, so hopefully that will make up for the wait. Got some special stuff for everyone to look at! I will let everyone know when I have the docs up for perusal!
I will post in a few minutes.

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

I thought that was picked up already. I believe we have one, if not more of them.

Veldrin d'Shraen |

I believe you got keys. I think we found some on one of the guards we searched.

The Cloaked One |

Oh, I know. I made a nameless character on purpose. :-) OOC, I find Oscar hilarious because it's such a noncreepy name. "There's a monster in your closet that wants your soul. It's name is ... Oscar."

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

Well you have plenty of blood to do so ^^

Vincent Fleming |

Squee....I'm eager for Blade's post so that I can try and be a dork ^^. Bluffing that I am a summoned demon and that the cooking wench was the one who summoned me.....and hopefully intimidating the poor guy into cowering in a corner and submitting instead of fighting or fleeing...I'm so exciting to attempt, we shall see how it pans out.

Vincent Fleming |

Hmm....my current thought....is...to throw a bomb and blow up his horn.....and light him on fire by proxy.....but I can't remember how hard it is with inanimate objects...I wanna say it's normally bout...10 ac (Not sure what touch ac is for objects is...but eh).....GM? What do you think, would I be able to surprise him by whipping a bomb not at him but his horn? Or would that be initiative?

GM Blade of Heaven |

You can just bomb him. The fire will probably ignite the horn. Let him try to blow it then! >:) And surely there is something in the kitchen that could daze him? Hot pot of stew maybe? >:D
Also, those looking into any vampire template will be pleased to know, I found my old Fang and Fury book. Who wants a blood puppet (Ghoul, blood-slave, whatever you want to call it,)?

Jaq, Servant of Sifkesh |

Was posting my reply and the power went out from ice on the lines. I'll try to get something up, but I need to save my phone battery.

The Cloaked One |

I'm wondering the same thing, documents-wise. :-) I'm set on the Nightmare Creature/Lord template from Bestiary 4, but Gurwhen's having trouble finding something for her character.

Vincent Fleming |

Just out of curiosity since you sometimes post with your phone, have you explored if your phone has the ability to tether (Provide your computer with internet). I didn't know I had it at first with my phone till I was at a Con and someone else with my phone was using theirs to get internet for their DS of all things ^^.

Veldrin d'Shraen |

I might be able to help out our lovely elf lady. I'll toss her a PM in a bit.