Dragons of the West (Inactive)

Game Master Matt, Garnished Game Designer

Not a problem

Shortly after Braeth's begins his attack, Raito responds with his own attack, "ICEE!!"

Attack(Iaitutsu): 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (9) + 5 = 14
Damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13
Iaitutsu Damage: 1d6 ⇒ 5

Raito slips and the blade misses Braeth but he definitely felt the wind of the blade pass by him.

Raito gnashes his teeth, obviously angry with himself. He uses his move action to draw his merciful wakizashi.

Modified AC 15 for next round
Hit Point: 5/13

Heck, I specified what my intent was (and how I was willing to alter it) days before we knew who was going to be chosen for this game.

Waiting for his call, one way or the other, is what I've done. He did, however, accept my character as presented from the very beginning and openly stated and highlighted. I can't think of anything else I could have done to be more clear than spamming him with PMs, which would have just been obnoxious and annoying.

Until he notes that he was in error (which is fine, as that does happen; I certainly can understand accidental oversight, for reasons that I hope should be obvious from earlier in this very thread!) I am left to the conclusion that he accepts what I've written (within reason: he probably didn't fine-comb everyone's stat blocks and numbers, as 14 stat blocks + campaign prep + real life is a lot to cover). I will gladly change my character if he requests (or a rules error is pointed out). Otherwise, I will request that you drop it, as it's coming off antagonistically at this point.

(Incidentally, though I never intended on using them, I'm curious why you're so certain that called shots are not acceptable. Have you gamed with him before? Your assertion of knowledge of his preferences is remarkable otherwise.)

Related: we're playing Pathfinder, so I'd assume he intended Pathfinder material. If someone came up with official Paizo material from 3.5, though, and pointed to the original limitation, and had talked about it days before being chosen and accepted into the game, I'm not going to call the GM into question. Fourteen's a lot of people to brush up on all the rules with, but I presumed he like most of what he saw in our characters, or else we wouldn't be here.

Even if he approved it, but wants it to be a unique to me thing for some reason: okay, that's fine, I suppose. I'd probably rather take something other than Craft (armor), though, if I can't help the group with it. That was my explicit reason for crafting my character as I did. If you're still not convinced, I can take you through my actual thought process, though if you suspect me of trying to "get away" with something as a fellow player, I doubt you'd accept my word at that, either.

The very short version: "How can I make a cool character concept that's fun to play, that will maximize everyone else's survival potential and enjoyment?"

I understand that you've got players who abuse things in your game. I'm sorry. That sucks. Not everyone is out to do so, however, and different people with different motivations can like the same rules sets or ideas.

I'm not trying to antagonize you, or to question your integrity. My point is, I'm prone to look at optional rules that provide no benefit other than to raise the effectiveness of armor well above regular means, and for what purpose? How does this change gameplay, what does it bring new to the table? I'm down on the rules for piecemeal armor on a personal level because it provides exceptional armor for no purpose than for the sake of it. If the GM is fine with that, and thinks he can manage both the CR of a 25 pb party, who are 7 members strong, and have well over their normally available AC, more power to him. I just tend to err on the side of caution.

Using the withdraw action to move 50ft away from Rai

Round 2

Raito rolls his eyes at Braeth's withdrawl, then moves 20 feet more from his position expanding it to 70'.

And then draws the merciful Daikyu he took off the wall and notches an arrow.

AC back to 19

Really?!!! Nice tactic for poorly written rules! I can see a charge not allowing a bow shot. But a run, it should be allowed without AoO. Oh well, good move, lessons learned between game rules and real life.

"Friendship is Martial Practice"

"No problem, Braeth. I think this game is helping all of us refresh and/or learn the game rules better."

Ditto for the above two quotes...

Raito uses a move action to draw his katana.

AC:19

You used 2 move actions, one to move and one draw your bow. This means you didn't have any more move actions to spend on sheathing a weapon. I also checked to see if you could sheathe a weapon as part of a move action and it would seem an though you can't. Here is the link, look in move actions

End of Round 2

As soon as Braeth backs off, Raito walks 20', turns around and bows low to Braeth to submit, then exits the dojo mat.

I had two opportunities to take the advantage and blew both of them with lower dice rolls, so you win by damage and a rules foul on my part. It would not be fair to you to repeat the round because I screwed up. A samurai would never discard his swords for drawing a bow.

Well done. You have excellent combat awareness.

Braeth backs off, satisfied in his victory and use of terrain against a superior opponent. He shakes Zayne's hand in return, thanking him for the compliment before returning his attention to Rai and bowing low, looking at the ground in a sign of trust and respect.

"Thank you for this sparring occasion Raitoningu, it was an honour and a privilege to face you in combat and to learn from you as well"

He then straightens himself, sheathes his weapon and moves to the side as he waits to see who will be the next to step up for a match

Vem goes to the racks, this time she picks out two cestus, her five daggers, two in her wrist sheaths, a short bow, 20 arrows, and a longspear.

Vem steps to the center of the dojo and points at Braeth assuming her fighting stance with two daggers drawn.

Initiative: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (13) + 4 = 17

That's ok Braeth, sometimes the GMs let us get away with too much. And I am fighting game rules with real life experience, that's my problem! But that's cool, live and learn. There is always next time. The dice were on your side because that Iaijutsu strike would have taken you out.

Raito bows to Braeth once more, Hai! It was a very nice match and you caught me asleep!" He bows once more.

Braeth rolls his eyes in self-pity as he moves forward to meet Vem's challenge.
Ain't no rest for the weary huh... he says. He starts 30ft away, taking a page from Rai's book and using his placing to his advantage.
Initiative: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (5) + 7 = 12

Your kove first Vem: Equipment is the same as last round, shortsword, 2 daggers and 15 chakrams. Might as well make this more of a challenge then it already is ;)

Vem opens with two daggers against Braeth from 10' away.

Thrown Dagger: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (19) + 2 = 21

Thrown Dagger Crit Confirm: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 2 = 14

Damage: 2d4 + 2 + 1d6 ⇒ (2, 1) + 2 + (5) = 10

Thrown Dagger: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19

Damage: 1d4 + 1 + 1d6 ⇒ (4) + 1 + (2) = 7

Just saw you started farther away than normal. So she'd take a 5 foot step to 25 and throw both daggers. So her attacks resolve at -2 instead of +2, both still hit but no crit from the first for a total damage of 14 instead of 17.

"Thanks for that my friend, guess I needed someone to humble me and show me I still have much to learn"

Braeth then moves against the wall to take a break and watch others fight instead of himself.

No problem at all Braeth.

Vem takes her daggers back from Braeth when he hands then to her,

"Vem rarely loses when she fights on her terms, she suggests next time not to think so much but to act instead."

Initiative: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (17) + 4 = 21

Edit: I see we tied :\ rolling again for the split since we both have the same initiative modifier.

Initiative 2: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6

Edit 2: Welp lol.

Vem opens first with a spear strike.

Spear Attack: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (20) + 1 = 21

Spear Crit Confirm: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 1 = 15

Damage: 3d8 + 3 + 1d6 ⇒ (8, 3, 5) + 3 + (6) = 25

Well, that fights over :/

Vem turns to look at Zayne.

"The serpent learns quickly."

He moves to help Jian back up before speaking to Zayne and Vem

"Seems as though you are the only one who has beaten Vem so far, mind explaining how you did it?." he says with a relaxed laugh and a wink of amusement in Vem's direction

This is nice, he thinks to himself, I can't believe how quickly we have become accustomed to our new surroundings and made friends from strangers. I guess dying is the best thing that ever happened to me huh? He shakes his head, a wry grin spreading on his face at the grim observation

Let's wait for Kotei to chime in before we start doing armor. You can state your intentions but I doubt we could change anything just yet. Mhar, Why does it take so long for you to craft armor? I don't even see a craft DC for putting armor together. I could see crafting the armor pieces as taking a while but not putting pieces together to create a full set.

Armor has a craft DC of 10+AC provided. Hence, it takes a DC 17 for +7 armor, DC 18 for +8 armor, DC 15 for +5 armor, and so on. Everything else is based on cost.

As for how long it takes... actually, that looks like I'm using the wrong quote myself. I went with:

You can practice your trade and make a decent living, earning half your check result in gold pieces per week of dedicated work.

... when it looks like I should have gone with:

Make an appropriate Craft check representing one week's worth of work. If the check succeeds, multiply your check result by the DC. If the result × the DC equals the price of the item in sp, then you have completed the item. (If the result × the DC equals double or triple the price of the item in silver pieces, then you've completed the task in one-half or one-third of the time. Other multiples of the DC reduce the time in the same manner.) If the result × the DC doesn't equal the price, then it represents the progress you've made this week. Record the result and make a new Craft check for the next week. Each week, you make more progress until your total reaches the price of the item in silver pieces.

... which means, I'd make... (17*DC)/10 gold-value per week of progress instead.

+5 armor, DC 15 = 255 silver out of 450 silver cost; that's less than two weeks. [1.76 weeks, or 1 week and 5 days.]

+4 armor, DC 14 = 238 silver out of 210 silver cost; that's less than a week. [.88 weeks, or little more than 6 days and four hours.]

+3 armor, DC 13 = 221 silver out of 290 silver cost; that's just over a week. [1.31 weeks; 1 week, 2 days, and four hours.]

+1 armor (casters' armor), DC 11 = 187 silver our of 30 silver cost; that's... really fast, just over a day. [1.12 days, or 1 day and three hours.]