Dragons of the West (Inactive)

Game Master Matt, Garnished Game Designer

I think he had great plans and at the time he could handle the immensity of this campaign, then all of sudden work side swiped him and of course unnecessities such as gaming are the first to go.

I think he had great plans and at the time he could handle the immensity of this campaign, then all of sudden work side swiped him and of course unnecessities such as gaming are the first to go.

And lo, for my multitude of words, this is what I really meant. Well done. (It'd be pretty funny if it's all just a test, though, and I won't pretend that my paranoia doesn't make me ask sometimes.) :D

Also, Thorrpe, I am, too. :D

FOREVER!

(Unless I forget.)

Never give up, never surrender! (I've not forgotten, yet!)

:)

I am on my knees bowed and begging forgiveness.

This has been a seven week summer to remember on my end, but many side projects languished. I apologize for the lack of posts and replies on my part.

I admit to motivational weaknesses as well as perhaps a fear of reprisal but many of you have remained despite the enormity of the break.

This is a message informing you all that I am done with summer camp and have free time once again.

To those of you still there, I am ready to carry on this campaign.

If you would still have me.

Ah what the heck, I'm in ;)

FOREVER I SA-, oh! uh! hi! spirit. I totally wasn't planning on usurping your power over the world or anything. Nope. Not 't'all. Even for a second. (Oh, yeah, and I'm in.)

Whelp I am still here

OSU!

I'll be ready by Monday, 8/18

Monday also seems like the best day to restart. I'll do a clean up of the campaign, make the updates required and get prepped. A smaller team means some changes.

Thanks again for everything!

I've spoken with Jezelyn, and she is unfortunately unable to continue at this time; she is currently swamped by real-life, and barely has time for her current game (singular) that I'm running. She wishes to apologize, but she's really exhausted and time-crunched at present.

Also: super-excited about this starting back up!

EDIT: and Monday works for me, too!

Spirit should we level while we wait?

Yay, Jian is here!

Cookie is still here too. :)

Vem is here.

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And the Raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting

Rai checking in.

Braeth, Mhar, Thorrpe, Raitoningu, Jian Min, Everest, Vem and Ysanne.

Thank you all once again for returning.

The first order of business would indeed be to level up to 2nd level. Also, assume you have been gifted 1000 gp in funds to equip yourself. I will slightly reboot the story/mission, making it simpler to manage for everyone.

Once you have completed your upgrade, head over to gameplay!

My fellow friend (and Spirit if you allow it), what if we use a part of each one money to buy something useful (but expensive) for everybody? I was thinking about a Bag of Holding, or maybe a wand or two.
So?

EDIT:
Anyway, Jian has leveled up:

I need to purchase equipment, but otherwise am set up.

I'm interested in the idea of pooling our resources for one or two big-ticket items, but I'm unsure what. While I like the idea of a bag of holding or handy haversack, I'm not sure we want all of our valuables in one place. What do the rest of you think?

EDIT: Also, though she didn't request this specifically, I know that Jezelyn would be interested in returning to this game, if she ever has the free time (which is severely lacking for her in real life at present); hence, if at all possible, can the way she be written out have a door, as it were, to bring her in at a later date, should she so desire?

A wand of cure light wounds should always be your first group purchase. After that I think a bag of holding is a bit counter productive at the moment. It would take a fair share of gold, and what would we put in it? All the loot we didn't buy? :)

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I also need to purchase equipment, but that should be it. I'll try and get that taken care of tonite.

I would be willing to chip in for a wand of cure light.

i will chip in for a wand...how much if we all do it?

also I still need to wrap my head around the level...will work on it tonight

Prices for the stick of happiness (AKA Wand of Cure Light Wounds)
Number of buyer -> gp to pay (every buyer)
1-> 750
2-> 375
3-> 250
4-> 185.5
5-> 150
6-> 125
7-> 107.14... (two of us will have to pay another cp)
8-> 93.75

I'm assuming that (I'm talking to the people who wrote after me) you are all willing to pay for the wand.

If we want to get the best, we can buy, at the same price, the wand of infernal healing. The mythic stick cures for 1d8+1 in 1 round, but being bad peolpe always give 10 hitpoints in 10 round (but it doesn't cure silver and good damage).

Hoping to see at least 7 people (I'm poor, double masterwork wakizashi hurts).
.....but if Mhar crafts my (new) armor I can get some money back (something like 5 gp but it would be enough for 6 buyers).

I did craft your new armor, remember? It's right here (or at least that leads to them). You said you didn't want it (for some reason). I really don't know why, though. :D

EDIT: I'm pretty sure you want the +4 or +3 armors.

EDIT 2: your current DEX is +4, and you've got no spells.
leather: [+2 AC, +6 max DEX, no acp, 10% asf, 15 lbs., 10 gp, normal speed]
piecemeal 3: [+3 AC, +5 max DEX, no acp, 15% asf, 13 lbs, 29g, normal speed]
piece meal 4: [+4 AC, +4 max DEX, no acp, 15% asf, 13 lbs, 21g, normal speed]

There is no current reason to choose anything other than the piecemeal 4. If you get magical armor at some point, sure, yeah, okay. If you want me to make a few... we have time. Use the type 4, then later upgrade when you improve yourself (which is a nice three levels away, on average).

EDIT 3: If we want, we can craft other things as well, though it gets time-intensive - we can only do this for a few things. With my spiffy new masterwork tools, we can try to craft masterwork weapons at half cost. Unfortunately, as I don't have enough skill points (never enough!), so I don't have ranks in craft (weapon), however I can make a DC 18 by taking 10; masterwork exotic weapons require a DC 23; with three people providing Aid Another, we can exceed that.

Okay, Mhar is right, work keeps me busy, but with everyone getting back in, I'd like to try to continue. :)
Welcome back, Spirit!
No guarantees on posting frequency for me, but I'll see what I can do.

Jez is already level two. I think I'll save my 1000 gp to save up for a ring of sustenance or handy haversack or wand of cure light, if that's okay.
However, if everyone wants to go in on a wand of cure light to share, I'm in.

Alternately, we could get a few wands of cure light wounds with fewer charges, so that more of us are holding them.
If I remember correctly, I think it comes to about 15 gp per charge.
So, I could pay, say, 150gp for a wand of ten charges of cure light wounds.
If someone else who DOESN'T have UMD wants to contribute 150gp, my wand could have twenty charges, and I could also use it to cure them.
In other words, anyone who is a divine healer or has Use Magic Device could get a wand with charges paid for by them and by others who couldn't use the wands but who would like healing from them nonetheless. :)

that is only if dm is allowing partial wands.

If he doesn't I still think all of us playing should pitch in.

SPIRIT!

I've a question: could we research a variant of infernal healing in which it lacks the [evil] descriptor? Call it celestial healing, or spirit healing or, oh, I dunno, just throwing this out there: vigor*? ;D

Anyway, that would be my preference, and I'd love to later learn said spell, eventually.

If we wanted, we could even purchase a page of spell knowledge (1,000 g), which is exceedingly useful, as then each one of our casters could use it. We could literally give the page to anyone, let them hold it, then activate the wand without fear. Plus, it means that we have even more healing... just in case it really becomes necessary. Since infernal healing is both arcane and divine, I'd presume that any similar version would be the same. EDIT: I've been told that my interpretation is incorrect. Upon re-reading it, it seems you don't need the spell as a spell known, only that you are powerful enough to cast it. Hence, the page of spell knowledge doesn't matter for a wand, considering it's a first level spell. That said, I'd still suggest a page of spell knowledge in general, as that permits those without knowing it to use healing magic. Yes, I'm aware that, generally speaking, in-combat healing is not optimized. But out-of-combat healing is quite potent. Added to that, the ability to get about ten per day at no additional cost seems pretty great, to me. It's less necessary, however, than I thought, so it's not as important a purchase.

* In case you guys don't know, vigor was the closest to infernal healing (basically a low-grade fast-healing with a duration based on your caster level) in the 3.5 Edition.

In theory, I like infernal healing ~ but as an alchemist I can't use a wand of it, but I can use a wand of cure light.
Even if it gets reskinned (to vigor/celestial healing) I probably won't be able to use it as it isn't on the alchemist list. :(

Okay, looking at researching and designing spells, the spell infernal healing, alchemist stuff (including discoveries, formula, and the like)... I can think of no valid reason for that spell not to be on the alchemist list. I dunno, it really fits quite well - flavor, style, and thematic elements (including the ingesting of dangerous, weird, or esoteric components in order to produce a mystical effect).

Weird.

So, if Spirit doesn't allow us to research a non-[evil] version that allows Alchemists to use it, here's my secondary proposition (my fall-back plan, as it were): we research two spells, one a transmutation spell for alchemists, druids, and rangers; and one a conjuration spell for those who normally gain benefit from the infernal healing. While expensive in theory, in the long-run it more than pays for itself. It'll cost 1,000 gold plus 1 week each (sorry Jian, no weapon-crafting, alas). We can easily make the DCs, especially if we help each other. I'm willing to outright pay for ours. I'll just shove my 1k directly into it for the good of the group, though I'd ask someone - probably Jezelyn, Thorrpe, or Ysanne (or two of them) to help me make the DC (if both of them help me with Aid Another, our variant can require neither somatic component nor material component). That means that everyone else can divide the cost of the wand(s) and/or other spells among themselves.

i am updated, just waiting to know hoe much we spend on the wand to finish my purchases.

I did craft your new armor, remember? It's right here (or at least that leads to them). You said you didn't want it (for some reason). I really don't know why, though. :D

EDIT: I'm pretty sure you want the +4 or +3 armors.

EDIT 2: your current DEX is +4, and you've got no spells.
leather: [+2 AC, +6 max DEX, no acp, 10% asf, 15 lbs., 10 gp, normal speed]
piecemeal 3: [+3 AC, +5 max DEX, no acp, 15% asf, 13 lbs, 29g, normal speed]
piece meal 4: [+4 AC, +4 max DEX, no acp, 15% asf, 13 lbs, 21g, normal speed]

There is no current reason to choose anything other than the piecemeal 4. If you get magical armor at some point, sure, yeah, okay. If you want me to make a few... we have time. Use the type 4, then later upgrade when you improve yourself (which is a nice three levels away, on average).

EDIT 3: If we want, we can craft other things as well, though it gets time-intensive - we can only do this for a few things. With my spiffy new masterwork tools, we can try to craft masterwork weapons at half cost. Unfortunately, as I don't have enough skill points (never enough!), so I don't have ranks in craft (weapon), however I can make a DC 18 by taking 10; masterwork exotic weapons require a DC 23; with three people providing Aid Another, we can exceed that.

I forgot about that. I didn't want it for money problems. But now it's going to work.

Oh! Actually... with all the profit I made... I actually paid for it! If you read the details of the post, since it only costs 1/3 the listed price (so about 7 for anything else), and we made extra money, it didn't effectively cost you anything. Which is much of Mhar's: helping others to get the right thing done! But that's cool: I'm just glad you have some, now. :D

With your armor (piecemeal 4) I regained 3gp. That's good!

:D

108 for wand
304 for MW Morning Star (fluff that he got his old one rebuilt, though mechanically selling the old)

588 left over

108 for the wand leaves me with 892 left over; wanting a full set of masterwork piecemeal from Mhar.

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I finished it all for you guys quite some time ago... :D

Masterwork though? Mine specifically has to be masterworked.

I need masterwork horn arms, hide legs, and chain shirt. If you couldn't have made it in the year let me know and I'll buy it instead.

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Aaaaaaaaaah! I see. No, unfortunately, although any one of those are better than a masterwork "closest second" of the same AC, I don't really have much time to make a masterwork versions of much... I could get, maybe, three, I think? (I'd have to dig into calculations to know more.) Now, if you would buy me a single casting of fabricate, then we could talk (or, you could purchase a casting of masterwork transformation... <for 210 gold>).

EDIT: I'll try to see how many I can make, but I'm not certain. You'd have to help me out, though, to make it faster.

EDIT 2 3: It's an additional five weeks per masterwork component. Nope, nevermind, dang it, Craft skill, why are you so fiddly?!

420 silver per week.
1,500 silver total.

That means 3 weeks and 4 days.

357 silver per week.
1,300 silver total.

That means 4 weeks and 4 days.

Total: 8 weeks and 1 day.

I think most of those options end up costing more than just buying said armor :)
I'll look into Vem helping you out over the year, but it might not be in the cards depending on how her build shakes out tonight. Plus, I'm not sure if Mhar could stand to work with Vem for a whole year in close proximity :p

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Partial wands are fine and I'll allow the non evil infernal healing. Sorry again for a light delay, this week is hectic with my mom moving to Europe and Otakuthon rearing its head.

A quick heads up as well, I've modified the mission so as to be more natural and less character breaking. There were obviously qualms about assassination attempt so instead it will be more of an attempted diplomacy mission. If that fails, then the monks expect the Dragons of the West to do their part.

While we have you here Spirit, are we scrapping the bonuses for the training section? Just curious because I could do a lot of neat things with a bonus feat or extra weapon Proficiency for example.

Edit: Just wanted to emphasize it's not a big deal to me if we are, it's just I had a few ideas in mind from when we were starting out knowing we'd likely get a bonus weapon proficiency or feat along the way through our montage. Obviously if we don't it's fine I just need to adjust my list of available build options.

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While we have you here Spirit, are we scrapping the bonuses for the training section? Just curious because I could do a lot of neat things with a bonus feat or extra weapon Proficiency for example.

Edit: Just wanted to emphasize it's not a big deal to me if we are, it's just I had a few ideas in mind from when we were starting out knowing we'd likely get a bonus weapon proficiency or feat along the way through our montage. Obviously if we don't it's fine I just need to adjust my list of available build options.

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Ah true... well I'll be a kind old soul and allow each character to ALSO select an additional bonus feat as a "sum total" of all the training montage. This feat must be selected from the Pathfinder Core Rulebook.

ooo fun...ooo core. prob just take power attack or toughness. cause i don't think any of the summoning feats are in core

hmmm, i guess i will take spell focus conjuration and get that feat tax out of the way!!

Vem chooses Improved Unarmed Strike, thank you kind monks for your teachings.

Hm... dodge (not enough DEX, nevermind!), fleet, scribe scroll, or combat casting?

scribe scroll would probably get some great use at lower levels...thats a good choice