
Grey, the Lady's dog |

So this is the first Sneak Attack character I have played in years, certainly since 3.5
Are Undead still immune to Sneak Attack?

Alorah |

Nope. A lot more things are vulnerable to it now, even constructs, , basically unless it's incorporeal or doesn't have a discernible anatomy, or is extremely alien (like an aboleth) , you can sneak attack it

Grey, the Lady's dog |

Well now,
I feel an exploit coming on.
Next question/statement; Sneak attack damage is unaffected by weapon size?
If so, do any of the casters know Reduce Person?
Setup for final question, unless I am misreading Titan's Bane, I can simplistically get free Sneak Attacks on foes two size levels or more larger than me
Final Question, this time: If all those are the case, do you guys think it would be worth it for me to allocate my next two Rogue Talents to Minor Magic & Major Magic to be able to hit myself with Reduce Person multiple times a day to set up for Titan's Bane Sneak Attacks on Medium size foes?

Kelden Sunblade |

as far as i know sneak attack damage isnt affected by size.
That would be a neat and nifty little trick, but im dont know if it would be necessary. a+19 to acrobatics if high enought to dart in and out on almost anything i think, easy enough to flank. plus you get that sweet +2 to hit for flanking as well

Sapphiria Paix |

I think Grey is looking for the ability to stay in the square of an enemy and make a full attack action (thereby getting sneak attacks with multiple swings).

Kelden Sunblade |

oh yeah forgot im a cleric and didnt think about things like multiple attacks yet. >.<
Also prepping to have Kelden's heart ripped out again *lawls*

Grey, the Lady's dog |

I think Grey is looking for the ability to stay in the square of an enemy and make a full attack action (thereby getting sneak attacks with multiple swings).
Mostly this. Of course, the ability to go full 'Jack the Giant-Killer' on almost anything is a mental image that keeps me going sometimes.

Sapphiria Paix |

Also prepping to have Kelden's heart ripped out again *lawls*
Well if that's what you WANT...

Taedric Starfell |

It would work well with your Titan's Bane, since the mythic ability saves you from what is usually bad about being Tiny: 0' reach and AoO for entering the opponent's square.

Grey, the Lady's dog |

It's not that Grey is disrespectful & contrary (Ok, it's not just that Grey is disrespectful & contrary)
Kelden was clearly talking Woojie-shit i.e. supernatural stuff & Grey likes to let that stuff be when he can & just do what the casters tell him to in those situations.

Grey, the Lady's dog |

as far as i know sneak attack damage isnt affected by size.
That would be a neat and nifty little trick, but im dont know if it would be necessary. a+19 to acrobatics if high enough to dart in and out on almost anything i think, easy enough to flank. plus you get that sweet +2 to hit for flanking as well
For immediate purposes, it's a moot point. Minimum two levels before I could pull it off & as you say, I will likely be pulling a lot of acrobatics/flanking between now & then, ideally.

Kelden Sunblade |

*lawls* no stress Grey
as for the heart ripping part, lets just say That poor Kelden has had oh, about 9 party members get taken away. Couple of folks have disapeared which is why we have you lovely recruits and its probably going to happen again.. i mean we are in the world wound and all that. *lawls*

Grey, the Lady's dog |

Yeah, Deskari & his witch have a lot to answer for.

Alorah |
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And one of the now fallen was pretty much his girlfriend. Kelden's a prime candidate for PTSD at this point.

DM-Camris |

Next question/statement; Sneak attack damage is unaffected by weapon size?
Nope, not by the rules as written; but you DO have to be able to reach a vital spot. You aren't going to be able to do that if you're standing on the ground with a dagger looking up at a Storm Giant. Toes don't count as vital.

Alorah |

Grey wrote:Next question/statement; Sneak attack damage is unaffected by weapon size?Nope, not by the rules as written; but you DO have to be able to reach a vital spot. You aren't going to be able to do that if you're standing on the ground with a dagger looking up at a Storm Giant. Toes don't count as vital.
The Achilles tendon does

Thrall the Lucky |

"I was not prepared to consecrate unholy grounds this morning"
Did you pick the Inspired Spell feature from the Hierophant Path?

Kelden Sunblade |

I did not i went with Faiths Reach so all my touch spells become 30 foot range spells, We had a group with a lot of folk with abilities that put them distant places a lot.

Sapphiria Paix |

I have both, but (1) can't cast 4th-level spells yet and (2) it doesn't work anyway, as I noted in the IC thread.

Thrall the Lucky |

Faith's Reach is a Path Ability. You get a Path Ability each Mythic Tier (so you should have one at Tier 1).
Inspired Spell is a Divine Surge. You get one Divine Surge at Tier 1 (from a list of three) and that's that (although I think you can trade a Path Ability to get a second one at some point).
So you should have one of each, probably.

Alorah |

Sneaky types, you'll quickly find that Arthas doesn't do subtle....or stealth. Lol

Arthas Sword of Ragathiel |

Yeah, serving the General of Heaven’s Host, who is the son of the Devil himself and half Fire Elemental who then had to prove himself to Heaven kinda makes one a little bit bold and open :).

Taedric Starfell |

Sneaky types, you'll quickly find that Arthas doesn't do subtle....or stealth. Lol
I'm a bloodrager on a large wolf. Subtle fell into the Worldwound weeks ago. ;)

Grey, the Lady's dog |
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Alorah wrote:Sneaky types, you'll quickly find that Arthas doesn't do subtle....or stealth. LolI'm a bloodrager on a large wolf. Subtle fell into the Worldwound weeks ago. ;)
She probably meant me.
'Sok, I can work with it.
Grey, the Lady's dog |
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Well if you look at this one way, No one is ever gonna notice Grey with all the Announcements :)
My thoughts exactly...

Grey, the Lady's dog |

So, what now? Thrall is charmed, so I guess you gain control of him? But then he is attacked by the same one who had charmed him, does that break the charm?
From how I read the post, it looks like the effect might be supposed to send you into a rage against your allies, but I got no spellcraft, so I got nothin'.
edit: Oh shit...
Alorah |

Charmed isn't the same as Dominated. They might convince you to attack the people you just met, but not the ones you already consider companions. The person who charmed you is your new best friend until it's broken.

Grey, the Lady's dog |

Okay, I'm a dummy. Don't magical Weapons have at least a chance to strike an incorporeal target?

Taedric Starfell |

Magic weapons do, for half damage.

Grey, the Lady's dog |

Sapphiria can do nothing but grit her teeth and continue to concentrate on her spell, in hopes that the team deals with these shadowy manifestations before they kill her.
Suppression requires concentration, so I can't take any actions. Moving away would provoke an AoO.
5' step?

Sapphiria Paix |

... not exactly going to make a huge difference, as the thing can just 5' step as well.
Basically someone has to kill it before I run out of Constitution.

Taedric Starfell |

Ideally, Taedric would be in a position to charge. ;)
Small note, Camris, I can't move my mount to keep it with me...

Alorah |

Whew.
Touch AC is 15 with protection from Magic circle against evil up

Alorah |

I guess those other two aren't summoned otherwise they can't enter the aura. Everyone but Thrall should now have the +2 deflection bonus to AC

Sapphiria Paix |
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Nope. If you're using a ring of protection you just take whatever bonus is higher.

Taedric Starfell |

Did Taedric's iterative strike miss as well?

Kelden Sunblade |

Unless he has a different class feature from like a kit or something i believe he does get the double damage on his smite from the first attack he gets i think 2 points of damage bonus per paladin level. so in his case it would be what 14 points bonus damage?

Thrall the Lucky |

Yes, still Ghost Touch. Not a baseball bat, but the sword could very well be a cricket one.

Grey, the Lady's dog |

So, does anyone beside me find it mildly hilarious that Thrall manages to be the first poster on every gameplay page since we joined?...