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No problem on movement Barak I initially had you there anyway and second guessed myself.
Looked back at the basilisk fight and I did rule differently I see. I made a judgement call on what was convincing proof for a int 1/2 creature differed from what was proof to an int 4+ humanoid. I think you got some decent mileage from a level 1 spell anyway. Silent image (and to a lesser extent illusions generally) always fiddly.
AK, any feedback on my Knowledge (Religion) roll?
Guys I'm stuck in a meeting that is looking like an attempt at an all-nighter. Don't want to slow things up but no time for proper post sorry.
From memory I couldn't really see a good place for grease. Was going to yell out that Barak move to the protruding bit of roof on map and I'll grease the approach.
In the interim if I can be botted:
- tentacles grab at + 12 + 5, 1d6 + 4 dam
- fly toward barak to get within short range for spells (40') with 60' move
- slow 7 of the 8 zombies attacking him omitting the very wounded one
Kiri drops illusion and flies toward barricade. She can't do anything to help Barak if he's attacked in melee but she can heal the enlarged people or Telurion hopefully somewhat more safely. She will sit with Telurion. Should be back to normal sometime tomorrow.
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I'm actually having an early night so you will probably have time to post. Note that you don't really have line of sight to the northern climbing zombies until your right above them or extremely high in the air. You do have easy line of sight to the four about to climb the west wall though. Also a viable target for grease (affects the Climb DC) especially as none have started climbing yet.
Some food for thought. Turning in, at the least for a few hours.
Hi still stuck I'm afraid. Understand on LOS. Revised action is to fly within short range of Barak and summon a hound archon as a standard using Acadamy graduate to the square east of him. That will give him protection from evil and its debuffing aura should affect all zombies. Hound archon should be in reach of closest climbing zombie for full attack with its greatsword. Will get the grease down but think I need to try and land the slow first and will be able to next round.
Will post this myself as soon as I can.
Kiri moves to Telurion with wand out ASAP.
Bump
Time to pull out all the stops guys. Just remember its not a five minute day when you could TPK :)
Between channels and a fireball hopefully we can clear that group at the barricade.
with all the debuffs on the climbers Barak is slightly more confident in his survival at least for now.
Hoping a few get knocked off between you and the hound but still likely have a few who are going to make the top this round. Interesting to see if they are smart enough to rush the crossbowman.
I think I need to throw the fireball this round but its long range and I think everyone would be aware of that having seen Marcus cast them before. So should still be able to cast short range spells on the roof like grease. Create pit is actually long range as well, something I wasn't aware of. Such a good spell. Don't think I'm going to be able to place it on the roof but a possibility to aid a fighting retreat if things at the barricade go further pear shaped.
I think we should be fine save the grease for the most of the spells for the barricade as for the zombies i think they will try to pull me and the hound off the roof i don't think they can do this this turn whilst slowed.
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Re: Climbing and the Hound question, with 40 feet movement climbing at quarter speed for two move actions, they can actually reach the top (but not climb up) in a single round. The undead are being a bit more tactical by climbing 15 feet in one round then surging up onto the roof the next. Narration didn't match the notes on my end but the undead that was decapitated by the hound had climbed the full 20.
Re: Life Link. I see this as something you as the players, and Telurion, need to remember (which also means keeping up to date HP fully visible). Durin and Arachiel should have healed 5 damage at the start of their turns, with Telurion taking 10 damage as a result.
AK, shouldn't they heal at the start of my turn? I am about to post Telurion's actions, and will point out exactly that ;)
OK got it, thanks DM.
The slow should make a big difference if we can get any back on the ground but not a great chance of that unfortunately. Not sure how entangle combines with slow.
Expect Barak to have two baddies adjacent by the time his next turn rolls around. At least houndy has some staying power of his own with DR/10. He can always aid Barak's AC but thats getting a bit desperate.
stupid smart zombies! but makes sense ta
I was under that impression, but I am still 60' away at the start of this round it seems.
DM has a lot on his plate with 50 odd combatants but I'm sure he'd confirm if asked :)
I was assuming AK would check once I spoke about it ;)
But didn't want to hold up the action, so went with what I see on the map - gogo! :D
That is 40 feet after round 4 actions, correct?
Trying not to get into it but this was the round 3 post.
Telurion is visible on the map. In round 1 you cast a spell but didn't move and in round 2 you cast a spell then moved. With your twenty foot movement you would need to spend an action running to get you just behind Arachiel (double move won't cut it, as your speed is 20 feet and the distance is 60). Finally, your not 9th level, its 4d6. Imagine you've used Favored Class bonus to boost it but not certain :).
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You are 40 feet away, as of last update/map update. I haven't updated to your initiative (or anyone's) yet this round. After your declared round 4 actions, you will be 20 feet closer, for 20 feet away from the position I mentioned SE of Kiri.
You were 40 feet away at the start of the round. I haven't even had time to check the IC yet.
Well, that took over two hours to fully update today. Lucky my other two games are quiet. Yikes.
Telurion for some early clarity next round- a move action will get you just behind Arachiel or into melee with the swordsman zombie close by- or both, if your happy to accept Arachiel providing some cover by standing behind him and to the right.
Appreciate the effort Alex even if your zombies are about to eat our brains.
Time to pull out all the stops guys. Just remember its not a five minute day when you could TPK :)
Between channels and a fireball hopefully we can clear that group at the barricade.
You guys had better not all die before I even join the party! ;P
Naaaaah, we're fine ;)
I just gotta say WOW to that last update - that was pretty impressive AK. Can't be easy to manage all of that, so I can understand your preference for the bad guys team, after all the hard work.
They gonna lose though :D
Do we have an exit plan? :P
Do we have an exit plan? :P
Yeah we're a longspear crit from disaster unfortunately and its only a matter of time with so many rolls.
My options are create pit and grease. The former can create a barrier to Durin but not block them entirely and the latter isn't going to do enough by itself.
Hopefully we at least thin a bit by the time their next action comes around but presumably you guys are going to be badly hurting at that point.
Options at that point seem to be:
(1) Fight on with Durin behind the pit and Arachiel doing total defense or something until they can be channeled down.
(2) Complete withdrawal hoping their residual orders are to defend the fortification rather than follow.
Kiri will move at least to allow for (2).
Bit meta-ey sorry but a nasty situation.
I'm for the full withdraw option. Barak and the hound will probably be able to deal with their friends given time but it could be messy when the time comes Barak plans to jump off the roof taking the falling dmg and slide down the scree bank. I think I will need around 20 hps to do this without going down.
At this point Telurion can chose either to channel heal, or try to whittle the undead down - from the info on juju zombies they are kinda tough cookies to be channeling them to death though.
If we can manage some steady damage from Durin and Arachiel on this line, the incoming damage will start reducing, and I am hoping I can keep us going for some time - perhaps focusing on one of them at a time?
I say we give it another push?
Adding somewhat to the meta - these guys are resistant to channeling, so Telurion is likely to go for a healing channel next round - don't discard the Oracle just yet :D
With Life link added in, Telurion should be able to keep up consistent heals of around 22hp per round, for the next 8 rounds = ~17hp per channel + 5 each round from life link. That looks like a decent cushion if we can consistently take them down, even if only one per round.
Arachiel's LoH grants him an additional ~10.5hp per round as a swift action for the next couple of rounds, if needed.
Apologies for the math crunching - just throwing some numbers out there :D
Bottom line being said that, if we add some crowd control and the occasional fireball to the mix, I think we can make this (at least on the South End).
From my perspective the wight of numbers isn't so much the issue as Arachiel's being sundered considering it is the only full damage weapon we have vs these lads. From a non meta perspective Barak is concerned at this point but won't break until the last possible moment he is waiting for Marcus to make the call.
Durin and Arachiel alone are only dropping a few a round. Their hp seem to be in the 40s excluding DR (which is making them 4th level fighters but thats metagamey in the extreme).
Incoming damage is not going to reduce for many many rounds without lots being killed at once. I don't think Telurion can out-heal the damage even without factoring in sundering and/or an inevitable crit. Sooner or later the tentacles are going to flub as well we've been extremely lucky there.
Durin is attacking waiting for that channel and I suggest removing the enemy is more important than trying to outheal their attacks but then my PC is flying safely above.
Would also suggest that we target spearman as they are at least damaged. The longsworders missed Arachiel's intitial channel and AOOs / attacks in the first few rounds.
Well, Telurion can as easily channel to harm the undead, as to heal Arachiel and Durin - the thing is, I don't think the channel will be very effective, since they have added resistance to it, plus it will average around 17 points of damage for those that do not save, which is not impressive unfortunately.
Also we risk the two front liners HPs to go dangerously low...
But I'm game with the undead harming channel.
Guess we should stop the meta, and get ready for some holy blasting :D
P.S. Regretting I refrained from bringing my blaster wizard on board to avoid overlapping roles - one can never have too much wizards! I should know that ;)
Mental note: get bless weapon oils
Understood, will try and keep it to the IC. I wouldn't have been so overt if Durin hadn't been calling for it.
If anything the encounter is a salutory lesson that not every fight is CR appropriate :)
The furious clash of weapons upon armour, the cries of pain and dialogue coming from the living, the flashy bursts of positive energy and the extravagant fireball made the firebase quite a hotbed of activity. As a matter of fact, the struggle had attracted the attention of another walking corpse nearby- one that had quietly crawled out from underneath the nearby wagon with Telurion distracted by the fight ahead. He spotted the creature after it had already risen to its feet, below and down the edge of the trail from him.
Random undead or monstrosity that killed the scores of original defenders and raised them as jujus? Taking all bets!
Shunned lesser undead thrown into the mix so the Oracle could get some swings in just before dying horribly?
So glad you went north to south that was nuts.