
Aivar Kurisyl |

Is it an idea to create a token for specific effects like satire? That way, they can be placed on or next to the map as a reminder.
> https://i.imgur.com/ImRAm2d.png
Something like this? I did make it a button-like image, but imgur fills in the blank bits with white so it doesn't show there.

Tristan Aislin |

That's a damn good idea. I'm always forgetting buffs like Bless and stuff too.

Narièl Laeric |

One thing we can do is change the color of the token, and just put a legend on the side. I do that whenever Nariel uses shift, it indicate where she shifted from.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Either of those ideas works for me.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

That makes 3 attacks in the last 2 rounds where a hit has been turned into a miss by Tristan's satire.

Aivar Kurisyl |

Praise the bard \._.\

Sasha Yezhov |

Apologies for not posting yesterday. The weekend was crazy for me. Friday was my girlfriend's birthday. We had plans to go out with some friends for the evening, but then her best friend from the other side of the states dropped by unannounced as a surprise. She hung out for a day and then my girlfriend's sister drove across the state to visit for Saturday-Sunday.
Finally, our new kitten was just spayed on Monday, so most of my evening was spent trying to keep a semi-stoned cat from jumping on things and injuring herself. XD
I'll catch up and get something written right now!

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Hi Sasha
Good to know you are ok. RL can be tricksy like that so no problems :)
Post as you can

Tristan Aislin |

Apparently the forums ate yesterday's post - I never double-checked. :( But then gain you botted me in the same actions, I just got better rolls when I did it. Ah well.
Also kept forgetting my own Heroism. I need to do better on including status reminders for myself and others...

Narièl Laeric |

One thing we can do that is really simple is just leave a comment on impacted tokens. For example, if a creature has a status, leave a public comment on the token which shows up on the side.
I left one for Nariel's Mirror Image as an example. I put one up for Tristan as another example.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Thanks Nariel, I think that works well. It should help us keep track of things like Bless, Haste, Shield of Faith and so on too.

Arianna Wending |

GM would I be right in assuming you must have a title of nobility to own an indenture?

Wandering GM Wastrel |

@Arianna - yes. In fact, no person can own an Indenture - the Indenture is owned by the title, just like any property might be. E.g., you could be awarded, say the Dukedom of Yrrl, together with all lands, properties and Indentures owned thereby.
Or, if you displease the King, you could have your title removed from you, and your lands, properties and Indentures could be seized; in which case they would become property of the Crown, to be disposed of as the Crown saw fit.
Hope that answers your question.
I'm going to allow a bit more time for the RP here to wrap up before moving us along.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Sorry.
FWIW, there's nothing you could have done about this - I dislike railroading but there are certain things that need to happen for the story to move forward. This is one of those things.
That doesn't make it (or me!) any nicer, I realise. But Merrim's end was foreshadowed in her beginning: she crossed your path via the intervention of wolf-like beings, and goes out the same way.
But I'm getting ahead of myself...

Raquel Cailean |

And that's when Raquel converted to the worship of Calistria to take glorious vengeance upon everybody. >:(

Narièl Laeric |

Ooo, that is some significant unrest. Actually, it makes total sense given that a small community has a predator among them. We need to handle this gingerly, because as Arianna pointed out... this could go sideways and become the Salem Witch Trials.
Does Nariel have the ability to do any research on Lycanthropes? She'll have a small library of her own, though it wouldn't rival anything like an actual full scale one you might find in a larger city.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

In the time available, not much. Give me a Knowledge check and we'll take it from there.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

In case you're wondering, the DC is 34 (10 + your kingdom DC of 24); with Nariel and Raquel's successful Aid Another, Tristan's roll is now at 30.
Two more (successful) Aids Another* are required :)
*I instinctively recoil from saying "Aid Anothers" - I think it's like "courts martial" or "attorneys general" where the plural goes on the first word of the phrase.

Tristan Aislin |

Makes sense to me. That DC apply to the 'do it sneaky-like' roll as well? If so, I never had a chance!

Arianna Wending |

Really I could have just as easily done Diplomacy there, my modifier for Sense Motive and Diplomacy are equal, but it never hurts to put a little more effort into these things.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

@Arianna - I agree completely :)
One more Aid Another needed from either Aivar or Sasha

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Sorry. Litigation case at work took most of my life-force this week. I'll have something up in a bit.

Narièl Laeric |

I can empathize; I'm buried at work myself presently.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Thanks. Am less busy today so will get us up and running again.
Apologies again for the delay.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Crap. Crap. Crap.
Update will come Tuesday, I promise.

Narièl Laeric |

Ugh, maybe web wasn't the spell needed here... if Raquel's spell is successful, I should probably just dismiss the web next round so you folks can have at the werewolf without being impeded by the web.

Raquel Cailean |

Since we're not really in a strict initiative order, perhaps the GM would be kind enough to reveal the result of Raquel's spell and potentially allow Nariel to alter her action?

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Nariel, you can re-do your action for this round if you want.
Still waiting on Tristan and Sasha.

Narièl Laeric |

I'm going to make a suggestion (or rather, at least explain what Nariel is thinking):
This might be a good time to hold a trial. This would help establish the rule of law for the Mark, and establish Aivar as the proper authority. It would also allieviate the people to see that the perpetrator is dealt with.
Nariel could prosecute; she has skills in barrister now. Just a thought.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Booooring
Besides, nothing says "fair trial" like the friend of the deceased acting as prosecutor ;)
In more seriousness, you can arraign the werewolf and have him transported to the assizes for judgement by the local magistrate. As you have already learned, the nearest magistrate's court to you is in Nivatka's Crossing :)

Narièl Laeric |

As you have already learned, the nearest magistrate's court to you is in Nivatka's Crossing :)
Oh god no... after the way those clowns handled Oleg, I wouldn't trust them with the trial of a wet paper bag :P
If it's the choice between executing the Werewolf ourselves right now or exporting to that Kangaroo Court, I say we just end it here and now. Nariel for one, has absolutely zero faith in their objectivity or ability to administer law and order.
You know at some point, we will need to start administering justice in Thornmark, boring as it might be. Just a thought to consider if you don't want to do it here with this case.
Besides, nothing says "fair trial" like the friend of the deceased acting as prosecutor ;)
Hey now, Nariel can be fairly obtuse and purely by the book as past arguments have demonstrated, no? XD
Anyway, it would only be truly unfair if he didn't have a proper defence advocate... but point taken.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Just a reminder that Thornmark is a province of Brevoy and thus subject to its laws. Once your town gets bigger then the magistrates (they're more like Circuit Judges, really) will include you in their periodic visits, but for now you either conduct justice yourselves or export it to the nearest town that has a courthouse (i.e. Nivatka's Crossing).
And of course it doesn't matter in the slightest which course of action you take. Nope, there are absolutely no external powers taking an interest and/or keeping a watchful eye on Brevoy's most recent province. No sirree, nothing to see here.

Aivar Kurisyl |

I do think we should try and interrogate him before giving him a trial - whether it be within the borders of Thorn or outside, in say Nivatka's Crossing. Trialing him here might cause some serious unrest (we aren't exactly, you know, professionals at this whole justice thing), but I feel it is the preferable option what with Oleg's death.
Right now, I'm trying to internalize how a paladin of Shelyn would deal with a homicidal lycanthrope.

Narièl Laeric |

Just a reminder that Thornmark is a province of Brevoy and thus subject to its laws.
Of course. I wasn't suggesting writing new law, but rather administering justice with the laws of the land as they currently stand.
If holding a trial ourselves isn't doable, are there traveling assizes in Brevoy that we could request? Throughout the medieval period in England, the assizes traveled the land and administered justice to smaller less populated and rural areas. That could be useful here.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

The magistrate in Nivatka's Crossing is the travelling assizes - I probably could have been clearer on that point. Even a 'travelling' assizes doesn't go everywhere: they don't travel to every village and until your capital has a suitable infrastructure (at least a jail, a town guard and a courthouse) and your borders are a little closer to Brevoy, they won't come to you.
Hope that helps.

Arianna Wending |
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That's a really long and roundabout way of saying 'are you sure you want to do that?' :)
So here's the difference between what happened to Oleg and this werewolf: this werewolf wasn't being backed by a G@# d%~n noble capable of hiring a Hitman after he outlived his usefulness. What happened to Oleg was a tragedy, but we are not the absolute authority and even if we were! It would be suuuuper sketchy to hold a trial with us involved. There is a reason that in the real world, judges recuse themselves from serving if the case at hand involves them or their personal interests, it's to prevent corruption. You can't honestly tell me you would give this guy a fair trial, can you?

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Heh. It's a balance between giving you freedom to act while at the same time occasionally having to remind you that your mindset as 21st Century jurists isn't always appropriate to a Medieval milieu where monsters are real.
If, say, the Duke of Yrrl summarily executed a werewolf that had encroached on his lands and devoured one of his household, nobody who matters would think anything of it.
(I'm NOT saying that that's what you should do.)

Raquel Cailean |

Raquel is all for executing the monster that killed her friend, but she is trying to consider the societal implications. But she's not above straight up murder-izing it if there wasn't a paladin looking over shoulder.

Arianna Wending |

And if Raquel or Aivar had delivered a coup de grace I wouldn't have batted an eye, it's a werewolf, I would have done the same, but he's not only unconscious and helpless but his Lordship wanted to bring about justice so it looks like I'm arresting a werewolf. I thought we were in Brevoy, not Ustalav.

Wandering GM Wastrel |

Nonononono - if you were in Ustalav, it would have been an incorporeal, vampiric, werewolf... and its spawn.

Narièl Laeric |

Sounds like a game of Munchkin. :D
Love that game!
Heh. It's a balance between giving you freedom to act while at the same time occasionally having to remind you that your mindset as 21st Century jurists isn't always appropriate to a Medieval milieu where monsters are real.
Right, this is what I was basing my thoughts on. Of course having Aivar deliver a sentence here is pretty sketch to our minds, but Brevoy is more a medieval province in terms of development; it was not uncommon for Lords of the land to render justice in their lands until legal reforms began to occur during the 12th and 13th centuries (at least in England)

Tristan Aislin |

Tristan would be in favor of handling interrogation and trial/punishment here. While he knows the situation with Oleg and the one with the werewolf are nothing alike, he is unlikely to ever want to trust the Crossing magistrate with 'justice' again, whatever the situation.

Aivar Kurisyl |

L'état c'est moi! That pretty much summarizes Brevoy for me. Might makes right, and if the people underneath you happen to nod 'yes, my lord', well, then you can do whatever you want. You make the system. You are the system. It's good to be king! Or, more precisely, an absolute monarch.
But in this case, t'is more the fact that Aivar is a paladin of Shelyn and barring demons and devils, he is supposed to give everyone a second chance. Fun, I know!
My idea is that we interrogate him so that we can get a good amount of information we can act on before we the bastard along to a magistrate.
It might even be worth it to haul him to Restov and make a happening out of it :x