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As a veteran of the first Pathfinder Humble Bundle, I have a question.

Has Paizo taken steps to ensure that when their playtest document is released next month that we will actually be able to download it?


technarken wrote:

As a veteran of the first Pathfinder Humble Bundle, I have a question.

Has Paizo taken steps to ensure that when their playtest document is released next month that we will actually be able to download it?

I am not familiar with the Humble Bundle issues, but I believe they stated (in one of the Friday Streams, I think) that they're offloading much of the strain to cloud storage, which would mean that there won't be undue strain on the servers on release date.


Back when the first humble bundle happened you couldn't download anything from Paizo.com reliably for days because of all the new people trying to download pdfs

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A lot of that had to do with the watermarking process. As a free pdf, the playtest shouldn't need watermarking and shouldn't cause the same issues that the humble bundle did.


The watermarking is server side, not document dependant. I've downloaded Hero System documents from Paizo and had them watermarked just like everything else.

But I echo the hope that everybody is able to download their Playtest PDFs without delay!


KingofAnything is correct. They specifically said the issue they had during the first humble bundle was the personalization server getting overwhelmed as people tried to download their loot.

However! Free downloads don't get personalized, so probably won't be a thing for the PF2 playtest. Other things might come up, but probably not that.


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I've downloaded some player's guides for APs (normally I like dead tree books, but those aren't available in paper form), and those were both free and personalized. I hope that what people are saying is correct, however.

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I think the default is to personalize. But, products such as the PFS faction cards don't have the watermark. It is an option.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I've downloaded some player's guides for APs (normally I like dead tree books, but those aren't available in paper form), and those were both free and personalized. I hope that what people are saying is correct, however.

I think there's a higher likelihood of that not being the case if we are to believe them when they said they're using cloud based systems for playtest launch. Free PDFs are personalized from Paizo, because they're already on the Paizo server, and my guess is it's far easier to program a Universal Personalization System than implement something that ignores certain things, without the risk of accidentally tossing a paid PDF without Watermarks. Since Player's Guides aren't nearly as high a server load as the Playtest release, there's no reason not to use their own server.

I'm not 100% that we won't see any technical issues, since I think there is a chance that they underestimate the traffic they might get, day 1, especially if non-PF players decide to take this as a moment to try out PF2e, but I think the fact that they've mentioned it as a problem they're aware of and actively working to mitigate makes me think that they're probably getting prepared for such eventualities, since I'm guessing someone on the team had that thought as well.


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technarken wrote:

As a veteran of the first Pathfinder Humble Bundle, I have a question.

Has Paizo taken steps to ensure that when their playtest document is released next month that we will actually be able to download it?

They expanded their capabilities back then. There will likely still be delays for a few days as with all big releases, but hopefully it won’t be too bad.

Silver Crusade

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They should run some scripts to have the PDF's personalized ahead of time.

Storage costs peanuts these days.


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One thing you can do to help is to share the free pdf personally with your group. Its what I'll be doing, and I know it isn't much but that will save 8 people trying to download from Paizo and if every GM did this the reduction would be huge overall.


I seem to remember them asking people not to share the free PDFs (like player guides and the previous playtests). I don’t remember the reason - I think it was to help gather usage data (?)

Anyhow, should probably check that it’s allowed - especially if they go through the watermarking process.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Steve Geddes wrote:
I seem to remember them asking people not to share the free PDFs (like player guides and the previous playtests). I don’t remember the reason - I think it was to help gather usage data (?)

These PDFs will be watermarked. We want everyone to get the PDFs from us because it helps us understand usage, but also because we can notify of updates and (depending on your privacy settings) communicate with you directly about the playtest and other things.

So yes, please have your players get their PDFs from us directly!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Steve Geddes wrote:
technarken wrote:

As a veteran of the first Pathfinder Humble Bundle, I have a question.

Has Paizo taken steps to ensure that when their playtest document is released next month that we will actually be able to download it?

They expanded their capabilities back then. There will likely still be delays for a few days as with all big releases, but hopefully it won’t be too bad.

We did significantly expand our capacity during that campaign, and we are moving our watermarkers and download servers to the cloud prior to this launch to further increase capacity and responsiveness. And since we know that a lot of people coming to the site in August will want either just the Playtest Rulebook or ALL THE PLAYTEST STUFF, we'll be presenting those particular options in a way that makes it even easier on you and on us.


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Vic, which privacy settings do we need to have in order to receive Playtest communications?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Most will rely on the "Products, Offers, News, and Events" checkbox.

If there are any playtest-related Pathfinder Society-specific mailings—and I'm not sure whether there will be or not—those go by the "Organized Play" checkbox.

And if we update the playtest product PDFs, you'll only be notified if you have checked "Digital Content Updates."


Malthraz wrote:
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That's no way to talk to our favorite Cantankerous Container of Carnivorousness!

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