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Gorbacz wrote:

It's the edition where people post non-joke "are Wizards too weak?" threads and nobody has made a "Rogues are a failure of existence, prove me wrong, you can't" thread so farz so I guess we're good.

God I love that bag^


Gorbacz wrote:

O HAI

*barrages through the thread, vomits acidic saliva at people, causes temp bans, regurgitates remnants of some troll, burps loudly*

And that is your standard Gorbacz greeting everyone. I mean if your gonna be a cursed bag you might as well be a CURSED bag.


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Yeah You'll have to wait for the Drow elf as core race flame war. I'll be right their with you for that one.


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Gorbacz wrote:
PFRPGrognard wrote:
Can we make this a bi-monthly event? See you in 2020?

Sadly, no, the glorious new edition of Pathfinder is out and I can't miss out checking out all the level-headed, considerate, empathetic reactions from old school grognards!

Hey watch it you I'm suppose to be the funny one.


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Yay I can use this alias again.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA


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mrspaghetti wrote:
Is there a Handy Haversack or equivalent in PF2?

Well I certainly hope so.


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Gorbacz must of made straight A's in Difficulty class.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
It would be super easy to house rule. you character get 2 hp per level? d4 he get 4? d8 etc.
Given that the average roll on d4 is 2,5 and on d8 it's 4,5 it's not as super easy, apparently ;)

I mean if you want to be difficult I suppose you could order custom dice like d3,5,7,9 etc.


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Although I do wish ever DM had the understanding of DeadManWalking.


Missed the real debate which would of been cantrips vrs catnip. Inquiring minds want to know!


Gorbacz wrote:
You Americans are weird peoples.

<Disclaimer there is actually no joke in this post which I know is odd since its a HHOH post please forgive>

Oh that's right your like polish or something right?

<Oh alright *knock knock*>


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People who want martials to be OP slavering killing machines with 15 attacks in a round and also like em hairy will have werewolf the apocalypse.


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Every time I see a thread title say "lets talk about ___" My mind goes to a certain salt and pepper song.


Gorbacz wrote:
It's pretty much one person posting about the "treadmill" in every PF2e thread. Which is amusingly treadmill-ey in itself, I must admit.

One could say he's doing a lot of walking but not going anywhere.


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magnuskn wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
John Mechalas wrote:

Most of this was looking pretty decent until:

Joe M. wrote:
Death and dying: getting much more deadly. New condition, “wounded,” you acquire when you are healed back up from 0 hp. Next time you drop to 0, your wounded value is added on to your dying value. And since you die at dying 4 ... this can mean insta-death if you’re doing too much up-and-down.

So...the solution to the already complicated dying rules and the character deaths and TPKs is to...make them even more complicated and more deadly?

The Eleven TPKs of Collete Brunel don't count.

Why exactly do they not?

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Otherwise a good update. Hopefully they will do their spell pass soon.

Read through that person posts for a good hour and you will understand. particularly if you choose a subject you don't agree with him on.


Gorbacz wrote:
Attributes are at the 'magic missile always hit and there's a holy avenger for Paladins" level of sacred cow. Touch that and folks will hyperventilate.

No no I've decided I'm just going to put my head in the sand and call it future proofing.


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I occasionally.


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Skystarlit1 wrote:
gustavo iglesias wrote:

You don't need to be sorry for not liking a system. No system will please everyone. If, when playtest ends, this is not the system for you, the so be it. You don't have to keep buying Paizo products out of sheer loyalty, you don't owe them a thing. And they don't have to keep doing games exactly as you want forever, they don't owe you a thing either

They sell books. You like, you buy, you dislike, you buy something different.
I'm sorry, I'm a loyal gamer. My first instinct is to but from my local game store and support the companies I believe make good products. Paizo was one of my favorites...

CASE IN POINT!


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Gorbacz wrote:
LadyWurm wrote:
Grimcleaver wrote:
All of this. I second ALL of this. There is too much thick terminology and too much scavenger hunting around from definition to definition before you find out what an ability actually does.

Omg yes. This book is dry, awkward, terribly organized, and nothing feels interesting or exciting. I swear it's like the writers of PF2E had no idea what makes an RPG fun or appealing.

But then again, they did make Starfinder, which my entire gaming circle rejected utterly.

Aaaand Starfinder is the second best selling RPG currently, giving D&D 5e a run for its money. So chances are that Paizo will follow the route that made them bounce back, rather the one that makes them slide into oblivion.

Slide into oblivion. What's an argument among geeks without some solid melodrama!

OMG the melodrama is the worst part. Its the main reason I find all these threads so exhausting. every thread you have to deal with sooo much melodrama.


I think if I gave you exactly what you wanted when you spend a resonance and reach inside then that's a bit more fair.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Skystarlit1 wrote:
Megistone wrote:
Skystarlit1 wrote:
4.AshVandal, thank you. I will endeavor to remain calm... But it is difficult as people like Megistone are more interested in flinging accusations of my play style instead of also remaining calm and discussing things... Though my instincts to sling mud in retaliation of perceived insults does not help to calm situations for sure. I will endeavor to control my temper.

Please quote an accusation I flinged at you. I explained what I thought when I first read your first post here, and why; and that was AFTER getting called a caster-hater and blind.

Well, actually no, don't borher quoting anything. I have no interest in continuing a conversation with you after this. Others will hopefully explain to you why a GM can't really challenge hypermaxed characters without utterly wiping out the rest of the group, or explicitly picking on him/her which quickly becomes boring and STILL steals the spotlight from the other players.
Complaints about this, and about full casters easily destroying the story, have been very common on these boards for years.
I'm off.

How can you possibly claim to not hate casters after this post?

It is entirely possible to challenge the creativity of the entire party at the same timewith a "OP" caster in the group. Fireball, okay reduce the field so that splash/aoe attacks need to be better thought out, dungeon perhaps? Monsters/bad guys with SR or magic resistance, DR, immunities etc... IN character motivations for actions or motivations to NOT act.

As for the remaining party, traps/puzzles for rogues and intelligent characters. A opportunity for the bard to play a big/desirable gig. A barbarians opportunity to regain his honor/homeland/whatever in a one-on-one. Rotating the spotlight is NOT hard. If your caster is getting all the attention your either not thinking through your combats enough and/or having too many of them... Or your DM is dating him/her.

The fact that you believe that...

Sometimes I really enjoy your "tough love".


Gorbacz wrote:
Handy Haversack of Hillarity wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

I really hope this whole computers thing will die and LoneWolf will release a fully offline, pen and paper HeroLab.

You know so we can do things like we did back in 1978 again.

I just realized your like a more intense version of Statler and Waldorf.
You know, at times I think a large chunk of the forum is like them.

OMG I have not seen that before XD

I do kind of wish more people didn't know how to turn computers on...

... But have you ever had a mustache kiss?


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Gorbacz wrote:

I really hope this whole computers thing will die and LoneWolf will release a fully offline, pen and paper HeroLab.

You know so we can do things like we did back in 1978 again.

I just realized your like a more intense version of Statler and Waldorf.


Malthraz wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

Dear OP,

In case your free product will not be available on release day and the resulting psychological trauma will cause you major distress, my services are available at affordable hourly rates. Options include: a really nasty forum post, am equally spiteful Reddit post or at a slight premium, a warrantless but intimidating threat of a class action lawsuit.

Here's my card.

You truly are an evil bag.

I'm pretty sure hes Lawful Evil at least.


I however offer tickles but I charge a ton for them.


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Heh first time I preempted the other bags comment!


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Have you guys tried jiggling the handle? I heard that might work.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Aboleths did it.

Shhh! Your not suppose to talk about them.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Ah, somebody smoked out all the people who think that linear fighters quadratic wizards is a good thing.

I don't think it really was that hard to smoke them out. Very minimal amount of smoke really. Like maybe someone took a puff of there vape and exhaled to hard.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Dragons & Dungeons!

Well I'm sold. Man That IS a great name! For some reason I feel I've heard it somewhere before...


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Hey lets just start all attributes at 20 but you don't get a +1 modifier till 22 and then +2 at 24 etc. etc.

It really doesn't make a difference just like if attributes started at 0 then 2 would give you a plus one or we could simplify it more and a 4 str would give you +4. It really doesn't matter until you start balancing things around it.

so its almost the definition of arbitrary.


Gorbacz wrote:
Volkard Abendroth wrote:

It's been a month since this thread started: I still see nothing but a train wreck waiting to happen.

It's like Paizo is telling everyone who came here from 3.5 to piss off, they want a different demographic now.

I came from 3.5, I'm staying for PF2, what demographic am I? You might want to think very carefully about the answer. I'd even suggesting sleeping it over :)

Same and so far I like all (or most) of the changes. I would say if you think PF1 is perfect then just stick with it. I saw room for improvements and frankly the improvements they are making are pretty well What I visualized.


Gorbacz wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Meh, pass. Oh well, no Paladins at my table again :)

Oh, c'mon, Bagsy! Why so grumpy again? Do the dwarven nekkid beard dance and enjoy the previews! ;P

(Although nice to see some old...er, faces (?) still around here! :))

I'm enjoying the previews and nekkid beard dwarven dances (wait wait what?) but I was kind of looking forward to a cheeky blog that features a Paladin of Ragathiel torching an orphanage so that none of those kids grows up to be evil.

I mean, Thanos is basically a Paladin. Show me a man of more noble intent and readiness to sacrifice what he loves in order to get done what everybody else is afraid to even think about. That's dedication. That's altruism. That's casting aside your ego, your ambition and your gluttony for power in order to pursue a higher goal. This is what Paladins are all about.

.....!!!....

I got nothing.


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dysartes wrote:
graystone wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Ninja in the Rye wrote:
What does "strike first" mean in this context?
Common sense.
LOL That thing that has brought us years of paladin debates...

I mean, if you're going to avoid having a discussion with a GM in any game you intend to run a Paladin or Cleric in, you're going to have problems - and yes, this is something you can do in a PbP or PbF game.

graystone wrote:

Most of the blog seems fine. A few question/comments though:

Alignment: It saddens me we still have this in the game... :P

You may be saddened, but it lifts my heart with joy to still that this is still a thing, and that it still has an impact on the game.

I imagine I am not the only one in this position.

Paladin blog should be interesting, when we get there.

I suppose interesting is the word if you like watching the world BURN but no I'm sure it will be intense.


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Gorbacz wrote:

Buckle up folks, we'll have to endure until the Paladin blog arrives.

That's when the real drama starts.


CorvusMask wrote:
Yeah, I have never understood how many cubic feets handy haversacks and bag of holding can carry actually means <_<

It means you can't put nothing to big in us!


captain yesterday wrote:
Hurká wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Well, not wanting to buy three books when I can buy two doesn't make me poor, I just have other things to spend the extra money on, especially with a teenager in the house.

Yes, but you aren't gated. You can still just buy two books and get the 3rd's information online. And it would probably make the CRB cheaper.

What I'm trying to say about accessibility is that getting people to play Pathfinder at all with a smaller introductory book is more important for Pathfinder than some convenience.

While there are a group of people like yourself who won't buy the GMG if it's separate, I believe you still get a lot because the CRB will be a better experience, the CRB will be cheaper, and the GMG material you get online will be more thorough.

Good luck with that, my point still stands, I have better things to spend my money on.

There is nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise.

What if I tickle your belly?


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Gorbacz wrote:

What if I burn down a goblin orphanage?

You stop Right their sir we are not going their.


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Elfteiroh wrote:
Handy Haversack of Hillarity wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Jester David wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Yeah, because players can't look up all magic items online, since Pathfinder isn't open content. Oh, wait.

There's a difference.

Having it in the Core Rulebook puts it right at their fingertips and subtly encourages thinking of that material as "player options". There's no separation.

Having it in a separate book emphasizes that it's meant for GMs by default and they're granting access. And looking up items on your own is going behind your GM's back.

None of my 20+ players have a Core Rulebook. They're all using PRD/d20pfsrd/AoN out of their phones. For them, the location of information is absolutely of no consequence. XXI century, baby!
You have 20+ players wow your a much larger bad of holding then I thought.
The thing is.... He's not a bag of holding, he's a bag of devouring. He eats them. That's why he got a lot.

Hmm seems like a sound strategy. I wonder if its to late to get teeth sewn in.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Jester David wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Yeah, because players can't look up all magic items online, since Pathfinder isn't open content. Oh, wait.

There's a difference.

Having it in the Core Rulebook puts it right at their fingertips and subtly encourages thinking of that material as "player options". There's no separation.

Having it in a separate book emphasizes that it's meant for GMs by default and they're granting access. And looking up items on your own is going behind your GM's back.

None of my 20+ players have a Core Rulebook. They're all using PRD/d20pfsrd/AoN out of their phones. For them, the location of information is absolutely of no consequence. XXI century, baby!

You have 20+ players wow your a much larger bad of holding then I thought.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Ninja in the Rye wrote:

I'm worried that none of these new spells listed will be nearly as good as a 14th level Fighter being able to add their +2 Shield AC to Reflex Saves against a few narrowly defined types of attacks.

I just don't want casters feeling like they can't keep up with the new reality warping powers that are being granted to martials in PF2, so I hope their primary class features are also doing amazing things like providing minor highly situational numeric boosts.

Don't worry. I'm on good authority that a 1st level PF2 fighter can initiate the Celestial Dragon Neko Neko Nyan Nyan Omnislash manoeuvrer, which allows you to swing your sword, designate any object within 20 miles of you and INSTANTLY SLASH THAT OBJECT APART IN TWO no saves, instant death. You can slash apart objects and creatures as large as a mountain.

At level 2, you can slash apart the equivalent of three mountains.

At level 3, you can slash apart an entire mountain range.

At level 4, you additionally summon a host of Angel-Devils, each of which can conjure a swarm of meteor penguins. They do no damage, but they look cool and sing your favourite anime opening.

I realise that people will likely go up their arms because that means Fighters don't get cool out-of-combat utility until level 4 (not that slashing mountains apart doesn't have cool uses like opening cans or sealed envelopes) but hey, some folks just won't ever be happy.

Its so ... *lone tear* beautiful.

especially the cat cat meow meow part.


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Gorbacz wrote:

"Please guys"

So, the women aren't panicking?

But what about that children? Won't someone please think of the children!!!


Gorbacz wrote:

*sips vodka*

I keep telling you folks, the best bait posts are the ones that aren't bait posts at all.

*spis vodka again*

It's 2 PM and I'm drinking, must be Saturday.

Anyway, as to my "modern gamer" street cred, well, I've started in 1993, played some 50 systems/settings across the years. My first game was, ironically, BECMI, I've done it all from D&D to Dogs in the Vineyard and from Tails of Equestria to Tales from the Loop. Last month I've played both Swords & Wizardy and Skeletons.

You can talk to me about what was Gygax's True Vision or what is the Actual Spirit of D&D all day. I frankly and honestly don't care, because the only thing I care about is whether people at my table are having fun. And I know that in Swords & Wizardry, they'll have fun by rolling 3d6 in order, but in Pathfinder, they'll have fun by point buy.

Agreed with most of that but it is a bit early to be drinking... Some bags I swear...


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I didn't know people where this committed to the imperial system. My only excuse is I don't know the metric system as well so I can't accurately imagine in my head what 24 meters would look like while 24 feet I have a good idea. Still I would have no problem if they started to teach the younger generation the metric system so they can grow up with the ability to think in metric. I swear some Americans are so afraid of change. Let it go guys you won't be alive forever let the next generation improve themselves instead of holding them back for your sake.


Gorbacz wrote:

You can kill Fort/Ref/Will, BAB, CMB/CMD, you can make Perception and Concentration not a skill, you can ax XP costs for crafting, you can make undead susceptible to crits, but touching Str/Dex/Con/Int/Wis/Cha expressed on the 3d6 scale is likely the line in sand where people will cry betrayal and accuse you of setting Gary's grave on fire.

That and making magic missile roll to hit.

Have to agree with my magically enchanted cloth friend.


Ok hes accurate on this one^^


Gorbacz wrote:
I've heard Necromancer Games will buy Paizo once PF2 bankrupts the company due to Paizo's inability to finally address caster-martial disparity. I've even seen the draft documents. It's all ready. You can trust me.

Can't trust other cloth storage devices. Their hollow on the inside and They literally have no back-bone. Good sense of humor maybe but no back bone.


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Theirs always room for more stuff if you have a good haversack.


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What no gorbaz to mess with. I am not needed here...

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