Pejoratives in SPAAAAACE!


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Both 'vermin' and 'furball' are terms I could see being aimed at Ysoki, though a bit of a low-hanging fruit. 'Catbait' could be one that needs some thought, though it occurs to me that space-cats and moon-wolves are almost conspicuously absent.

Likewise 'trashcan' for androids, though calling one that's soul is younger than the body 'castoff', 'hand-me-down', or 'secondhand' might pack a bit more punch. Obviously more "outlandish" androids would earn their own pejoratives based on appearance.

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A funny incident from one of my games that is rather on topic:

A human character unzipped her shirt to try to distract an NPC, who was a vesk.

A vesk PC posted the following response: 'A vesk being distracted by seeing some human's milk sacks? <redacted> chuckles at the thought.'


In the spirit of GOTG's "trash panda", how about "trash hamster" for Ysoki?


ENHenry wrote:
In the spirit of GOTG's "trash panda", how about "trash hamster" for Ysoki?

Or just use "trash panda." There was probably a lot of linguistic drift that everyone forgot about due to the gap.


I think that a lot of the insults that races think are clever don't translate that well so they're mostly shrugged off.

A human couldn't call a Vesk ugly without a response like "Says the guy who doesn't have any horns!"

You'd have to go for cultural insults, like calling a Vesk a coward, or a kasantha bare-faced.

An android could be called a play-person, humans could be called worldless.

For Shirren mindless would be particularly infuriating.

Not sure about lashunta or Ysoki - if I played a Ysoki and someone called me a rat my response would probably be "what's your point?" and probably something about monkeys flinging feces/lizards sunning themselves on rocks.

Lashunta seem too generic/idealized in the CRB to have a good cultural insult.


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Elmdorprime wrote:
Lashunta seem too generic/idealized in the CRB to have a good cultural insult.

Mindmelting bugfolk from the Planet Freelove?

Since that's basically a collection of almost completely untrue stereotypes, it seems to work.

I can also see crude, rude and lewd types making all sorts of references to having sex with them, and using that as a benchmark for their other pleasant/unpleasant experiences.


One insult could be calling androids the name of a popular mass produced child's doll (i.e. calling them the in-universe equivalent of "Barbie or "Ken"), but that would be hard to pull off until we know some very specific things about the setting, and knowing things like that are unlikely to happen in the near-to-intermediate future. Easier insults could be attaching a serial number or brand name to it's name, implying that you can just go and buy another one if the current one breaks, or most offensive of all, after injuring one say something along the lines of how you would like to pay for property damage but you can't seem to find where the owner is.


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The stat change from "male" Lashunta in Pathfinder to Korasha Lashunta in Starfinder is significant, and it is likely that the Lashunta had different terms for each. If we knew what term the Lashunta currently use for people with the old "male" stats, that term might qualify as an insult to Korasha Lashunta.


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The augmented referring to the un-augmented as 1.0 or Base Model.

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I think a huge insult to an elf would be "traitor," or "betrayer," since the elves believe they were betrayed by a close ally, and don't know who. You'd be suggesting the betrayal came from the elf in question (who *could* be old enough to remember the end of the Gap).


Aerotan wrote:
Likewise 'trashcan' for androids, though calling one that's soul is younger than the body 'castoff', 'hand-me-down', or 'secondhand' might pack a bit more punch.

"Pants."

As in: "You're just pants for a soul."

"Rental shoes" might work in the same vein, but I don't know if they have space-bowling or not.


Maybe calling an androids body a hand me down.

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Actually, calling an android a "rental" does seem pretty good as a pejorative. Not only does it seem to mock the renewel process, but it also objectifies them and brings to mind the fact that they only recently obtained personhood, implying subtly that their personhood itself is borrowed.

Jeez...words hurt.


The Drunken Dragon wrote:
Jeez...words hurt.

Yeah, who'd a thought?


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Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
The Drunken Dragon wrote:
Jeez...words hurt.
Yeah, who'd a thought?

Not my five year old self! I was mostly worried about sticks and stones.

I lived in a rough neighborhood.


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Atzlant Star Imperial: Covemen/Atavists (seeing as how the Pact is much less racist and younger than they are, this compares them to primitive and outdated tribal beliefs, mocking them and their home at the same time).

EDIT: The other slur I made up, I just remembered, is an actual slur against transgender individuals. Yeah. I am removing it until a mod gives the OK (suffice to say it's hard to play racism against lashunta without dipping into transphobia).


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The actual pejorative evades me at the moment, but lashunta aren't only charismatic and eager to learn - they're incredibly venture capitalistic, and are very corporate based (according to the rulebook, at least)

So a charming, mind-reading individual who may or may not eventually buy you out, is not someone who's hard to hate, regardless of how nice they are. I can imagine most people with small businesses (on Akiton, especially) don't really like lashunta.

Actually, I had a similar idea in my homebrew a couple years back - goblins and hobgoblins are the same race, and they just move into one subspecies or phenotype at puberty. It's actually fun to see that in Starfinder.


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Androids could refer to humans (and possibly other humanoids) as "manimals," implying that they are no better than animals, either physically, or culturally.


The Lion Cleric wrote:

The actual pejorative evades me at the moment, but lashunta aren't only charismatic and eager to learn - they're incredibly venture capitalistic, and are very corporate based (according to the rulebook, at least)

So a charming, mind-reading individual who may or may not eventually buy you out, is not someone who's hard to hate, regardless of how nice they are. I can imagine most people with small businesses (on Akiton, especially) don't really like lashunta.

Actually, I had a similar idea in my homebrew a couple years back - goblins and hobgoblins are the same race, and they just move into one subspecies or phenotype at puberty. It's actually fun to see that in Starfinder.

I am forced to think my Lashunta operative in SFS is disliked by all you red-blooded mouthspeakers since he isn't just any businessman, but a black marketeer.


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"Morally flexible entrepreneur." ;)


Some statements I have designed for my Lashunta:

On seeing another female Lashunta with an even higher charisma, "Oh wow. I'd kill to have antennae as pronounced as hers."

On preparing to get into a fight with a Yoski and Vesk criminal duo, "You take the giant hamster, the walking upholstery is mine."

Captain: "Do you think you can fly us through that canyon?"
Me: "Are Shirren babies slimy?"

On talking about how good our Yoski Operative is as picking a lock, "They'll need to invent a better mousetrap before they can slow him down."

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HWalsh wrote:
On talking about how good our Yoski Operative is as picking a lock, "They'll need to invent a better mousetrap before they can slow him down."

Ooh, mouse/rat jokes, excellent!

"He'll take his share of the bounty in cheese."

"You dirty rat!" [in best James Cagney imitation voice]

"[The Ysoki]'s lagging behind again. Can you do a Pied Piper thing?"

"Well, I'm not going to try it out. That's what we brought the experimental subject for." [points at Ysoki]


Remember, they're smart rats. So call them Nimhs.


"Since ya keep callin' me 'Rocket' ... check out my gyrojet launcher ... ya filthy dew lapper..."

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The NPC wrote:
Remember, they're smart rats. So call them Nimhs.

Or maybe a narfin' Pinky?


Hey sexbot, don't you have someone to service?


I hear Ysoki Racing is the new craze! Hey Cheese-breath which canals do you find easiest to maneuver through? I hear the androids' are clean as a whistle!


I'm actively avoiding Guardians of the Galaxy quotes, so no trash-panda in my groups.

Did once say, to a Yoski, "What do I need to get you to get you on board with this plan? Giant ball you can run around in? Nice big cheese wheel? One of those treadmill things?"

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To a Shirren "What's your defect? Did you only have two parents or something?"

To an android that just struck out at a bar "Ooh, someone's gonna have to use the self-repair function tonight."

Terrible mechanic-to-android pickup lines; "I'm just here to service the machine." "Wanna come back to my garage for a tuneup?" "Now that's a battery with some juice!" "I've got the tool you need right here."

To an android "Don't get your nanites in a twist."

To an android who seems stumped or hesitates to answer a question "There's like a million tiny machines in there, and they are all standing there looking useless like he is right now."


I feel like a lot of these are a little too on the nose, in that they specifically insult important aspects of various races culture. I would imagine that a lot of pejoratives from other races are based off of either superficial physical traits, or off of racial stereotypes. A few I was thinking include...

Shirren: Chiggers (from the common name for the mite-like biting bugs on earth, that could presumably have existed on other worlds)

Vesks: Trogs (derived from troglodytes)

Lashunta: Sprouts (in derogatory reference of their culture's affinity for the natural world)


When Shirren go fishing, do they buy expensive lures, or just use their children?


VoodooMonkey wrote:
When Shirren go fishing, do they buy expensive lures, or just use their children?

Are Shirren children numbered or named? If numbered, they're bait-worthy.

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The Mad Comrade wrote:
VoodooMonkey wrote:
When Shirren go fishing, do they buy expensive lures, or just use their children?
Are Shirren children numbered or named? If numbered, they're bait-worthy.

They're named. The Iconic Mystic's backstory makes it clear they have them one at a time (or at least in small numbers), too.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
The Mad Comrade wrote:
VoodooMonkey wrote:
When Shirren go fishing, do they buy expensive lures, or just use their children?
Are Shirren children numbered or named? If numbered, they're bait-worthy.
They're named. The Iconic Mystic's backstory makes it clear they have them one at a time (or at least in small numbers), too.

Thankyas!

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The Mad Comrade wrote:
Deadmanwalking wrote:
The Mad Comrade wrote:
VoodooMonkey wrote:
When Shirren go fishing, do they buy expensive lures, or just use their children?
Are Shirren children numbered or named? If numbered, they're bait-worthy.
They're named. The Iconic Mystic's backstory makes it clear they have them one at a time (or at least in small numbers), too.
Thankyas!

You're quite welcome. :)


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The NPC wrote:
Remember, they're smart rats. So call them Nimhs.

I laughed when I read this because I had already named an NPC Racso


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to an eoxian you are all simply fleshies


No worries, toothpick. We've got your robes in the closet.

Just, uh, be sure to lock your door when you're lying still for the night. Marmaduke might think you're a treat to munch on.


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"Get away from em ya damn softscale!"-Veskarium-Indoctronated Vesk to a Vesk native to the Pact Worlds.

Coneheads feels like it's way to easy of an insult for Kasatha...hmm, "So uh you wearing that scarf for a reason or are all your mouths just really messed up looking?"

So are you more of a squat or dandy kind of guy?" Asking about if they like Korasha or Damaya Lashunta.

"These tusked humans I like. They know how to fight!" Vesk talking about Half-Orcs.

"That old Dustbeard's never had a good day in his life." Human talking about a dwarven miner.

Drifter-Slang for a Human or Halfling.
Swarmborn-A really bad curse directed at Shireen.

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To a Shirrin or Lashunta : "Do you get good reception on those?" about their antennae.


martinaj wrote:
Lashunta: Sprouts (in derogatory reference of their culture's affinity for the natural world)

I figured this would be an insult because of the sprouts sprouting out of their head.


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"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"


VoodooMonkey wrote:
"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"

*male human child continues dipping the little wrigglers in hot melted butter before chowing down*

"Mikey! He likes 'em! Mikey won't eat anything!"


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VoodooMonkey wrote:
"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"

*Looks down at take-out cup* (it's shirren children)

*Nearly vomits*

*Looks again* (it's just rice)

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bookrat wrote:
VoodooMonkey wrote:
"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"

*Looks down at take-out cup* (it's shirren children)

*Nearly vomits*

*Looks again* (it's just rice)

So, I'm guessing calling Shirren kids "Maggots" is pretty hurtful then?

Also, it's not technically cannibalism if they're not the same species :)


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VoodooMonkey wrote:
"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"

Well looks like you'll be meeting Pharasma tonight scaver. *draws gyropistol* Make your peace.


The Drunken Dragon wrote:
bookrat wrote:
VoodooMonkey wrote:
"How are those Shirren children? You're eating Shirren children Michael, how do they taste?"

*Looks down at take-out cup* (it's shirren children)

*Nearly vomits*

*Looks again* (it's just rice)

So, I'm guessing calling Shirren kids "Maggots" is pretty hurtful then?

Also, it's not technically cannibalism if they're not the same species :)

It wasn't cannibalism in Lost Boys, either, but that didn't make it any less disgusting. :)


I imagine Ysoki probably spend a bit more effort tailoring their insults to individuals rather than using stock slurs, but a few:

"Look here, you walking stack of salvage..." regarding androids

"Don't worry pleather, you'll get that joke next time you get out in the sun."

"There's a mirror in my bunk if you need to talk to your next date, Hobo."

"Yo, baldie!..."

"Hey, holo-vid!..."

"Don't make me tie those things in a knot, cricket!"

"Do you keep twice as many sticks shoved up your exhaust port or just the one, mouth-breather?"

"Oi, hivemind! You can either [REDACTED] off or kiss my [REDACTED], take your pick."

"Wow, I think my aunt found something that looks just like you the last time my cousin got a lung infection. Let me see if I can find a picture."

"I'm beginning to think ducks are only the second grossest thing to make it off Golarion."

"I could ask your opinion, monochrome, but I'd rather be right."

"Must suck having all those arms and still not being half the scrapper I am."

"Were you always this slow or did you lose half your hustle in your beard?"

"Listen chuckles, if I need someone to stand in my garden I'll give you a call."


Calling lashunta "slugs", as they are squishy and have antennae.

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