considering that my father is 20 years older than my mother and that issues of squickiness in this vein are very much a modern day taboo- one that I would even go so far as to say is a particularly virulent example of privilege- I hereby encourage Wolverine to have sex with as many willing people over the age of consent as he wishes.Quite honestly, you get that "OMG squicky" dynamic with every immortal character who dates someone who inevitably is younger than her/himself. So the best you can do is gloss over it, because you want those people to remain sexless for your comfort?For me it gets a lot squickier when they're interested in people who are still pretty young by their own standards. Even if legal.
Much like the 40 year old dating the 19 year old is squicky. Legal, but squicky.
Not sure how old your mother was when they met, so it might not apply. As I said, age matters less as you get older.
And back in the day when no one thought anything about old men marrying young women, the girls usually weren't given a whole lot of choice in the matter. If you want privilege, I'd say the real privilege comes with actually being able to pick your partners.
not much older than Jean was...although that might be my grandmother's disapproval talking. dad thought mom was hot, and dad was the local badass. Everything was quite consentual.
not much older than Jean was...although that might be my grandmother's disapproval talking. dad thought mom was hot, and dad was the local badass. Everything was quite consentual.considering that my father is 20 years older than my mother and that issues of squickiness in this vein are very much a modern day taboo- one that I would even go so far as to say is a particularly virulent example of privilege- I hereby encourage Wolverine to have sex with as many willing people over the age of consent as he wishes.Quite honestly, you get that "OMG squicky" dynamic with every immortal character who dates someone who inevitably is younger than her/himself. So the best you can do is gloss over it, because you want those people to remain sexless for your comfort?For me it gets a lot squickier when they're interested in people who are still pretty young by their own standards. Even if legal.
Much like the 40 year old dating the 19 year old is squicky. Legal, but squicky.
Not sure how old your mother was when they met, so it might not apply. As I said, age matters less as you get older.
And back in the day when no one thought anything about old men marrying young women, the girls usually weren't given a whole lot of choice in the matter. If you want privilege, I'd say the real privilege comes with actually being able to pick your partners.
Meanwhile, my dad received s+*~ for joining the welcoming committee as a junior to pick up incoming freshmen - and his old college buddies still make fun of him for it. Amusingly, he ended up with a transfer student his own age.
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Now it's time to reboot comics again for the younger set who buy the bulk of them.The problem being that 'the younger set' AREN'T buying comics. They're buying manga and videogames.
Considering that Manga tends to be more consistent and structured, are you surprised?
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I mean for one manga you have usually have the one writer. It's consistent. American comics generally follow this set up:
1. Have a run with writer who set up story, character development, and actions.
2. A new writer takes over.
3. The new writer spends most of his run undoing what he didn't like from the previous writer or gets in the way of what he wants to do.
4. A another new writer comes on board and the process repeats.
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Yeah, the constant writer turnover, lots of editorial interference and crossovers tend to make the storylines less cohesive, that's for sure. Not to mention character development.
For most of the big time characters, there is no real character development.
Cyclops. >:(
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FINALLY someone who gets it!
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Why did the latest comics show Cyclops as some kind of Stark-like genius who can REPROGRAM SENTINELS??? did Beast create the "Dumb Fighter App for Sentinel Reprogramming?"
Why are they somehow pretending that untrained fighter dudes can just pick up computer programming? I get that the MCU has its share of geniuses, but some characters have always been the jocks of the team, or the blasters, and that's fine. I get that Summers has been exposed to all kinds of fancy techs along his career, but where did he find the time to sit and look at the lines of coding for these toys, between saving the world twice a week, traveling in time once a month, and putting 10,000+ hours of piloting on the Blackbird?
Edit: I also forgot to mention the whole thing about running a school...
Honestly... I think Cyclops has become far more interesting in the last 10 years or so... He might not have the most likeable personality nowadays, but at least he has one. Up to the nineties and early 2000s, he was just a generic leader-guy with lasers. Same goes for Jean Grey, who is probably the blandest charactet in MU! Emma Frost is a much better character!
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Scott's not an idiot. He never has been. The idea that he was came about as part of the aforementioned character assassination. Also, you are showing your own prejudice with respect to fighters here. A fighter doesn't have to be dumb.
Given that Cyclops is now a drug pushing villain, that day may come.As thejeff points out, it's a relative maturity thing. If Jean was mid-20s or older, have at it.
Also, at the time, I'm pretty sure Wolverine had just pitched Cyclops off a cliff (more specifically, Cyclops was hanging off a cliff and Wolverine knocked him off rather than rescuing him) and was comforting a grieving Jean. Though that's a completely separate issue of douchebaggery.
he still hanging out with the loonies in his new legbreaker team?
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I wholeheartedly agree about my showing of prejudice. Yes, a fighter should be "dumb" compared against "genius" level teammates such as Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic and Beast.
The strength of Summers is not in the lab reprogramming sentinels, but more in line with an insane aiming capacity (imagine all the ranged feats imaginable, he has them, plus perhaps Leadership, Run, Athletic, Endurance, Improved Unarmed Strike, etc. etc. etc.) He's probably Olympic level athlete in many discipline, I'll give him that, although he might be losing some of this with age and trade that off with Wisdom and better Leadership. I'll give him a trick or two with tech, but please, where's Beast, Forge and a host of other nerds when you need them, WHEN YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP??
No, this version of Scott Summers, in the last year or so, I reject. And wholeheartedly ignore with my dollars.
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I wholeheartedly agree about my showing of prejudice. Yes, a fighter should be "dumb" compared against "genius" level teammates such as Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic and Beast.
The strength of Summers is not in the lab reprogramming sentinels, but more in line with an insane aiming capacity (imagine all the ranged feats imaginable, he has them, plus perhaps Leadership, Run, Athletic, Endurance, Improved Unarmed Strike, etc. etc. etc.) He's probably Olympic level athlete in many discipline, I'll give him that, although he might be losing some of this with age and trade that off with Wisdom and better Leadership. I'll give him a trick or two with tech, but please, where's Beast, Forge and a host of other nerds when you need them, WHEN YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP??
No, this version of Scott Summers, in the last year or so, I reject. And wholeheartedly ignore with my dollars.
This is the logical progression of a man who left his wife and child to chase his 'true love'. Scott's been an ass since then.
As to 'reprogramming sentinels for dummies' remember, the Avengers books are a bit ahead of the X-books, due to a time skip. It looks like Scott has a mutant homeland/reservation so reprogramming sentinels is easy as cake for Forge, Cypher (even before the silly 'talk to anything' power), Warlock, Danger, maybe Madison Jefferies, Hijack, Kitty for that matter... and that's not counting any MacGuffin mutants that came along in the interim.
Flip side of course we now have Young Scott doing the space pirate thing with his dad. Plus a Young Jean who's powers are turning her into a Tank instead of "girl who floats in the back"
very curious to see what the plan for the Time Travelled young X-men is when the dust from Secret Wars clears.
Really....wow. what would it be changed to?
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but does it really make sense. I mean why hate on the guy who shoots lasers from his eyes, but the guy with the magic hammer or the super soldier is ok?
The predjudice works great in an iscolated setting but you mix it together with the rest of the Marel universe and it just seems silly
The mutant prejudice doesn't make a lot of sense in the Marvel Universe, but it is what made the X-books so popular.
Personally, I think they'd work better if they were shunted into their own universe where other supers didn't exist, but that would mean no more Wolverine publicity for the rest of Marvel's lineup.
For a good deal of their comic history, especially the early years, the X-Men were for all intents and purposes in their own universe. They had their own specific Rouge's Gallery, their own set of issues, and they hardly ever interacted with the rest of the Marvel Universe, nor it with them.The mutant prejudice doesn't make a lot of sense in the Marvel Universe, but it is what made the X-books so popular.
Personally, I think they'd work better if they were shunted into their own universe where other supers didn't exist, but that would mean no more Wolverine publicity for the rest of Marvel's lineup.
This is a major reason why I don't mind the mutants not being a part of the cinematic universe. X-men continuity broke for me when they tried to combine them.
After watching last night's AoS, I am wondering if a version of Quake more similar to Skye will replace the 616 version. Especially since the characters from AoS now exist in the comics.
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I went back recently and re-read my Uncanny X-Men from the mid '70s to the mid 80's. Those are the stories that left the biggest impression on me and were long lasting. Whenever I think of the X-Men, that's the era I always fall back to. Its become so convoluted now, I've dropped most of the X-titles. The new(ish) Nightcrawler book has been really enjoyable for me, as well as the Amazing X-Men run, as they both remind me of the older stuff.
This is the logical progression of a man who left his wife and child to chase his 'true love'. Scott's been an ass since then.As to 'reprogramming sentinels for dummies' remember, the Avengers books are a bit ahead of the X-books, due to a time skip. It looks like Scott has a mutant homeland/reservation so reprogramming sentinels is easy as cake for Forge, Cypher (even before the silly 'talk to anything' power), Warlock, Danger, maybe Madison Jefferies, Hijack, Kitty for that matter... and that's not counting any MacGuffin mutants that came along in the interim.
Always hate this argument...
Been hearing it for decades, and when I finally read the X-factor books in question I was QUITE surprised to see that this never even came close to happening.
There may have been a few Plot induced character assassinations... but Scott was still in the good light that time. Maddie was destroyed and turned into a psycho by management, but Scott had nothing to be ashamed of.
As for Scott being the 'dumb fighter'... His house has been incorporating some serious ALIEN technology for years. He was regularly in charge of programming the Danger Room scenarios... And at no point was he ever groomed or trained to be 'just the guy giving orders.'
He may not be a the molecular biologist or anything... but I don't see him as getting less then A's in ANY of his classes. Unless they go into detail how 'difficult' these robots are to program... it may be as simple as typing in 'mutants' or 'not-mutants'... Designed by geniuses... but designed for the government to actually 'use'.
They were never OVERLY complicated as far as marvel robots are concerned. It's not like we're talking Ultron or Vison here ;)
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Well, you guys may remember a little something called the Onslaught story. Without spoiling too much, they did exactly that: Sent the non-mutant supers away to their own universe, giving the mutants (and the lesser non-mutants, and Spidey) the old Marvel universe. Thing was just that this did not sell. Despite new origin storylines for the FF and others. Despite a darker and more hateful original universe. Despite a new universe where the heroes could be heroes. So, one day they simply returned and everyone pretended that never happened. Gah. Let's say the odds of them trying THAT particular idea again are not very big.
The main collapse of Scott seemed to happen after his "absorption" into Apocalypse and "rebirth" thereafter.