I'd appreciate a better idea of how the genie eidolon powers work. What kinds of bonuses can they get?
At 4th level they can grow in size to large twice per day. If they get the large evolution later on, they get an extra point in the evolution pool.
At 8th level they can either fly (using magic), burrow evolution, or get gills plus the swim evolution twice.
At 12th level they stop being resistant and become immune to the energy type. They can also cast plane shift as a
spell-like ability once per day to the Astral, Elemental, or Material planes.
At 16th level they can cast once per day cleanseAPG or greater evolution surgeAPG on themselves as a spell-like ability, but only in response to their masters’ spoken wish.
At 20th level they get the 20th-level base evolutions of an elemental eidolon of any one element.
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Is there any kineticist specific items ?One, but it has many...facets.
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It bears mentioning that this is an expanded form of the kineticist's diadem found in Occult Adventures. The original was inapplicable to wood, void, or other new elements; this gives them access to the same tools.
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What's the new bloodline?
Is there any new cleric subdomains?
No new cleric subdomains, sorry.
It bears mentioning that this is an expanded form of the kineticist's diadem found in Occult Adventures. The original was inapplicable to wood, void, or other new elements; this gives them access to the same tools.Is there any kineticist specific items ?One, but it has many...facets.
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Is the extra damage to added to the physical and energy blasts of a specific element like the original diadem or is it further restricted to one or the other? Also is it future proofed in the rare event we get additional elements added?
Bleh.. I was really hoping for something for my Aether Kineticist. Got a feat I'd likely not use, and an infusion I'd likely not use.
The Aether School for Wizards is also wonkey. Why don't they get open/close and mage hand as 0 level spells?
Is the extra damage to added to the physical and energy blasts of a specific element like the original diadem or is it further restricted to one or the other? Also is it future proofed in the rare event we get additional elements added?
It should be largely functionally identical. It also includes a line about there being versions for other rare elements, but isn't aggressively futureproofed - after all, I don't know what elements might appear in future products.
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Is the extra damage to added to the physical and energy blasts of a specific element like the original diadem or is it further restricted to one or the other? Also is it future proofed in the rare event we get additional elements added?It should be largely functionally identical. It also includes a line about there being versions for other rare elements, but isn't aggressively futureproofed - after all, I don't know what elements might appear in future products.
Beryllium.
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Infusions that applies dazzle and lower elemental resistance by 5.
Stuff like that makes me jaded for the future of the kineticist class ever since the abomination that was focused blast. I wouldn't blink if the next book had a burn cost infusion to lower the targets diplomacy checks.
Infusions that applies dazzle and lower elemental resistance by 5.
Stuff like that makes me jaded for the future of the kineticist class ever since the abomination that was focused blast. I wouldn't blink if the next book had a burn cost infusion to lower the targets diplomacy checks.
Dazzle is always useless, no questions asked there. But lowering resistance by five is decent for melee, as it's +5 damage per hit against things with resistance.
Can we get some info on the new Oracle Mystery ?
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The new oracle mystery is the elemental mystery, basically instead of focused on a single element it focuses on all four elements.
There is also a new oracle curse that grants you additional element themed spells but you become vulnerable to an opposing energy type to the element you chose.
Anything for Ifrits, Undines, Sylphs and Oreads?
What do summoners get apart from the genie eidolon?
Flipped through my friend's copy (hopefully someday I'll have the money to actually own stuff) and noticed one thing that seems to have either messed up in final print or else just had a mix-up in creation. One of the feats, Flumefire Rage, gives +1 damage per die for Fire Evocation spells, and requires a pretty hefty Fortitude Save to avoid becoming Fatigued after. Okay, nothing particularly noteworthy inherently... until you look at the prerequisites and the wording for the Fort Save DC, and notice both reference Kineticist abilities (Prerequisites include Elemental Focus Class Feature, Fort DC can use a Blast's effective spell level). Buuut, Kineticist Blasts (which are pretty obviously what it's intended to work with given the DC wording) are not Evocation spells. They're not even Evocation spell-like abilities, at least as far as I'm aware they have no school ties. So one of the few classes that can take this without burning a different feat can't use it RAW. An easy enough fix for home games, to be sure, but it kinda sucks for PFS Pyrokineticists who might have gotten some cool feat support.
Infusions that applies dazzle and lower elemental resistance by 5.
Stuff like that makes me jaded for the future of the kineticist class ever since the abomination that was focused blast. I wouldn't blink if the next book had a burn cost infusion to lower the targets diplomacy checks.
Yeah there is like three infusions in there that are very close to being nearly useless in this book.
Two to cause Dazzle for a minute and one to cause shaken for a round. The latter of which you have to wait until level 6 to get. :/
No stuff for ifrit, oread, sylph, or undine:(
The summoner gets a storm based/focused archetype.
The new oracle mystery is the elemental mystery, basically instead of focused on a single element it focuses on all four elements.
There is also a new oracle curse that grants you additional element themed spells but you become vulnerable to an opposing energy type to the element you chose.
That sounds damn close to exactly what I have been looking for....how does the new curse interact with the mystery ? It seems odd that if you focus on all four elements, you would become vulnerable to one of the elements you chose ?
Question.
Is the monk archetype compatible with unchained but most importantly is it any good?
The monk archetype is usable by both versions of the monk. It's not bad, especially if you like to bull rush your enemies and it also gains airwalk at 4th level.
The monk archetype is usable by both versions of the monk. It's not bad, especially if you like to bull rush your enemies and it also gains airwalk at 4th level.
So it wouldn't stack with Scaled Fist. Shame.
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Archetypes
Abendego Diver(Ranger)
Earth Shadow(Rogue)
Energy Scientist(Alchemist)
Firebrand(Gunslinger)
Flamesinger(Bard)
Foundation of Faith(Cleric)
Storm Caller(Summoner)
Windstep Master(Monk)
As for the desperation phantom it gains a few abilities related to grappling, an aura that hinders spell casting, and a 1/day haste on itself and it's master.
Will you please tell us more of the Storm Caller?
Are any of these archetypes (especially the monk) stack able with kineticist in terms of multi class? I currently have an air kineticist dipping in monk for 2 lvls. That may change depending on this.
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Can the Energy Scientist create sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads?
So just clarify for me those that have this book: is the genie binder an archetype or a prestige class?
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Storm caller
Eidolon must have elec. resistance/immunity, alters summon list for summon power but summoned creatures gain elec. immunity. If Eidolon is not summoned can create a powerful call lighting ability and call lightning/call lightning storm are on your class spell list.
I haven't looked at them in that much detail but so far none of the new archetypes seem to go well multi-classing with the kineticist.
Firebrand-Starts with a dragon pistol, uses cha for grit, a few new grit abilities, bombs, and increased damage with the dragon pistol.
Fire Singer-Gains fire music as a bonus feat, summon monster to their spells known, bardic music that adds extra fire damage to allies weapons, and increased base land speed.
Energy Scientist-Must choose wich energy his bombs do each day(acid, cold, elec., or fire), limited extracts, save bonus vs current energy type + planar adaptation, and can create alchemical items from the remains of dead elementals.
Genie binder is a prestige class.
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Genie Binder
Feats: Persuasive, Spell Focus(Conjuration)
Skills: Diplomacy 4ranks, knowledge(Nobility 4 ranks, Knowledge(Planes) 11 ranks
Special: Ability to cast planar ally or planar binding or has summon monster VI as a spell like ability.
Well that is it for me, I have to go to work.
How many levels does the Genie Binder prestige class have? With the prerequisites given, it clearly cannot have 10 levels. Is it 5 levels like its previous version?
How many levels does the Genie Binder prestige class have? With the prerequisites given, it clearly cannot have 10 levels. Is it 5 levels like its previous version?
I had the same thought. I thought Paizo was avoiding prestige classes with fewer than 10 levels in the modern era of Pathfinder.
The Fire Singer loses too much for my liking: Bardic Knowledge and Inspire Courage being the deal breakers for me.
Now the Storm Caller! Wow. I could see it easily working with the original Summoner as well. Very nice. Limited summons, but they include Lightning Elementals!
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Want. But must wait.
Also I think fire kinetic blasts can be used to counter spell fire evocation abilities. If I was ruling it, since conterspell only works with either same spell, or exact oposite spell, or dispelled magic, it counts as evocation.
Edit: for infusions and blasts I mean. Wild talents are an entirely different ballpark.
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How many levels does the Genie Binder prestige class have? With the prerequisites given, it clearly cannot have 10 levels. Is it 5 levels like its previous version?
Yep. Say hello to the first Pathfinder Rules 5 level Prestige Class.
Here's a vote for future kineticist prestige classes
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The Fire Singer loses too much for my liking: Bardic Knowledge and Inspire Courage being the deal breakers for me.
Now the Storm Caller! Wow. I could see it easily working with the original Summoner as well. Very nice. Limited summons, but they include Lightning Elementals!
Its even funnier when you figure that agathions qualify as "eidolon subtypes with electricity resistance," meaning you can use the archetype to play Ash Ketchum and Pikachu, if you fancy. ;-)
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Also something else that seems to have accidentally been missed in the final copy: There's two Masterpieces on page 5. One of them doesn't have a name.
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The blog addresses that error - the missing name is Blazing Rondo. ^_^
