Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Distant Shores (PFRPG)

Kalindlara wrote:

I doubt that they're going to redo the Sun Temple Colony - Brandon Hodge's work in Lost Cities of Golarion was pretty definitive. ^_^

You´re right - i forgot that one. ;-)

The hobgoblin capital of Hongol in Tian Xia has been confirmed.

Fantastic - I know Golarion is humancentric by design, but I find it a bit too much on that extreme. A bit more demihumans should get the love, too.

I wonder of that will be the only non-human city in the book.

Dragon78 wrote:

Will there be maps for the region around each town/city or just the town/city itself?

No maps of the regions, but maps of the cities yes. And if I can get my act together... a more accurate map of the planet...

This is a book/news that I've been waiting to hear for a long time! You have one very happy Geologist-GM over here, James! :)

PS - Nice (unintentional?) homage to Changeling: the Dreaming with naming that continent Arcadia, by the by!

PS - Nice (unintentional?) homage to Changeling: the Dreaming with naming that continent Arcadia, by the by!

The reference is probably a bit more general than that.

I was hoping for a section on Goka ...

I am just happy we finally get some info for places outside the Inner Sea. It has been like forever since we got books for Tian Xia.

Glad to see some Tian Xia love happening, and the hobgoblin city is a good choice. I had hopes there would be something from the Far East in this book, but wasn't sure.

Mike Bramnik wrote:

PS - Nice (unintentional?) homage to Changeling: the Dreaming with naming that continent Arcadia, by the by!

The reference is probably a bit more general than that.

I stand corrected (and impressed - thanks for that!)

I remember from a seminar that the city for Casmaron will be where the Iridian Fold is from.

I'm definitely looking forward to reading about that city! :)

(And hopefully we will get better Iridian Fold artwork than the odd piece that turned up in the Kaer Maga sourcebook - there was something very weird about the proportions in that one.)

We confirmed at PaizoCon that the six cities are located in (and written by): Arcadia (Adam Daigle); central Casmaron (James L. Sutter); Iblydos (John Compton); Kaoling (Rob McCreary); southern Garund (Crystal Frasier); Vudra (me!)

We'll have more information as the book gets closer to release.

Where is Kaoling?

Where is Kaoling?

Kaoling is the aforementioned Hobgoblin nation in Tian Xia.

Where is Kaoling?

It is the hobgoblin nation in tian-Xia.

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Kaoling

Yeah was going to say, Hongol is the Mongolian country you visit in Jade Regent. I got all excited too ;)

Still, I'm looking forward to this.

We confirmed at PaizoCon that the six cities are located in (and written by): Arcadia (Adam Daigle); central Casmaron (James L. Sutter); Iblydos (John Compton); Kaoling (Rob McCreary); southern Garund (Crystal Frasier); Vudra (me!)

We'll have more information as the book gets closer to release.

I bet Sutter's is the Kazakstan analogue that he has been talking about. And apparently I need to hit up John to try and find out what he did for Iblydos.

So excited for this - and it definitely makes up my mind about how to invest in the CS subscription over the next months.

Clearly, I am a fan of everything behind this. There is a lot of demand for more details about a lot of places (you think?), and it would be a great first step toward getting an expanded-world hardcover, which would always be a lovely addition.

Exotic locales always get me, and this includes many of the ones I need to help flavor more of my fan adventure arc, which is set on Tian Xia, Southern Garund, Vudra, Sarusan, Castrovel and other possible sites that help instigate the players' love for the setting. Between the upcoming hardcovers, Occult Adventures, and Bestiary 5 which seems to focus a lot on the occult side of things, it's clear that I am going to have almost everything I need in order to keep moving forward. So awesome!

I'm really glad that Paizo is doing well. I am glad these great authors and designers are still doing such great work, and keeping up at the long-term goals, along with keeping us all in the loop. It's always exciting to see products that can help develop our creativity, and the way in which we all can interact with the game world and its stories.

I wish it was October already.

central Casmaron (James L. Sutter)

Here's hoping that this weekend we find out that is the Kelesh Capital, and that the city is so overflowing with Persian themes and tropes that Aladdin feels out of place being voiced by a white guy. Being central its pretty much garaunteed not to be Kaladay (East) (YAY!) or Iobaria (North) (YAY!) and Vudra and Iblydos have their own entries.

That leaves us with 4? possibilities remaining:
1) Windswept Waste border city. CE Cheliax, lowest on my hopes list
2) Ular Kel, capital of Karazh. Mentioned in a Sutter web fiction. Probably Hun themed based on the horse lord descriptions on the wiki. 2nd on my hopes
3) Non capital satrapy. I would literally cry if we basically got another Katheer. 3rd on hopes.
4) THE Capital. It has no name, it needs a name. The Padishah Emperor must have his seat of power detailed so that he can unleash his full might back onto the barbarians in the Inner Sea. #1 wishlist.

I hope we will get more info on this item(and many more) this week.

2) Ular Kel, capital of Karazh. Mentioned in a Sutter web fiction. Probably Hun themed based on the horse lord descriptions on the wiki. 2nd on my hopes

We confirmed at PaizoCon that this was indeed the city being detailed in central Casmaron.

Aw sadface, kinda. Maybe you'll still sneak in the name of the Kelesh capital?

*crosses fingers*

archmagi1 wrote:

2) Ular Kel, capital of Karazh. Mentioned in a Sutter web fiction. Probably Hun themed based on the horse lord descriptions on the wiki. 2nd on my hopes

We confirmed at PaizoCon that this was indeed the city being detailed in central Casmaron.

Huns? Cool. I find Cossacks a little more interesting, but any horse-based society should be fun.

So we still have one more unknown location then?

This book isn't listed as a hardcover, and I don't know if the price of $22.99 is a placeholder. Does anyone know how many pages the gazetteer is expected to be?

Also: will the release of "Distant Shores" go along with the 2016 Adventure Path - will it feature some of the places in this gazeteer? I know that the 2016 AP is supposed to be C'thulhu themed, but that sounds more like "Distant Worlds" than "Distant Shores."

I am interested in seeing what Crystal does with Southern Garund... there are so many choices to pick for a city!

It's a Campaign Setting book, so it's 64 pages.

The Strange Aeons Adventure Path will include travel to different continents, so it will probably touch on the same subject matter, but I doubt there will be any direct tie-ins since this is a year before the AP.

So we still have one more unknown location then?

Think we've got them all:

1) Ular Kel (capital of Karazh, Casmaron)
2) Iblydos city
3) Kaoling (hobgoblin city- probably Dhucharg- Tian-Xia)
4) Southern Garund city
5) Vudran city
6) Arcadian city

Unless you meant specific cities, in which case we are missing 5.

I hope the Southern Garund city is either a city in
a) Nurvatchta, because I <3 spiders!
or b) Holomog, because it already has some nice history attached to it with Durvin Gest, Mastrien Slash, and the Field of Maidens as potential plot points/quests.
Droon is cool, but dinosaur-riding lizards sounds kinda "been there, done that." Even if it is Droon (I hope not) I know Crystal will make it seem cool, or at least interesting.

I can't find a source, but I seem to recall someone saying it would be Holomog. No proof, though...

I wouldn't mind some Droon, if only to have some lizardfolk and less focus on humans.

Nurvatchta would be quite cool, too!

I am hoping the southern Garund city will be a Catfolk city or the place were those woman warriors came from.

I hope the Iblydos city is something strait out of Greek myth.

I am hoping the southern Garund city will be a Catfolk city or the place were those woman warriors came from.

I hope the Iblydos city is something strait out of Greek myth.

Holomog is the country where the women warriors who invaded Geb come from. It was briefly ruled by the Pirate Queen Mastrien Slash. Link: http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Holomog

Yeah I would like see Holomog. Also I am not sure if there are cities of Catfolk or just villages.

Yeah I would like see Holomog. Also I am not sure if there are cities of Catfolk or just villages.

Catfolk are too independent to form a centralized government. I can't see them running a whole city.

Catfolk are too independent to form a centralized government. I can't see them running a whole city.

If Elves can have a city, and Gnomes can even manage a village, then I'm sure Catfolk can pull it together as well.

Zeugma wrote:

Catfolk are too independent to form a centralized government. I can't see them running a whole city.

If Elves can have a city, and Gnomes can even manage a village, then I'm sure Catfolk can pull it together as well.

Set, I'm surprised to hear you speaking well of catfolk, given your own heritage!

Also, catfolk are NG in Pathfinder, so they're not THAT "too independent to form a centralized government". As Set has said: if Elves (CG & independent) can have cities, there's no reason catfolk cannot have them, too.

*shrug*

Carry on.

--C.

Catfolk do have their own city. When it comes out, check IS Races for details.

Also: will the release of "Distant Shores" go along with the 2016 Adventure Path - will it feature some of the places in this gazeteer? I know that the 2016 AP is supposed to be C'thulhu themed, but that sounds more like "Distant Worlds" than "Distant Shores."

There is no connection between the Casmaron city in this book and the edge of Casmaron explored in Strange Aeons (aside from being in the same continent).

To those looking for more American Indian fantasy: If you're willing to go outside of the d20/ D&D-legacy realm, there's Totems of the Dead and Ehdrigohr. Totems of the Dead is swords & sorcery setting for Savage Worlds, based closely on pre-Colombian contact North America, with close analogues for most of the major American Indian cultural groups (including the Aztecs), plus rules for visitors from fantasy equivalents of Russia, Scandinavia, China, etc. I gather the author is an anthropologist with a strong familiarity with American Indian culture. Ehdrigohr is a dark fantasy setting using Fate. The creator is a Lakota (Sioux) story-teller and the world of Ehdrigohr is heavily influenced by traditional Lakota beliefs, but with elements from a wide range of world cultures mixed in. Totems of the Dead probably wouldn't be that hard to convert to Pathfinder. I haven't finished reading through Ehdrigohr, but it feels like enough of its own thing that converting it might be hard.

Also, in the realm of fiction, there's the fantasy novel Bear Daughter, which is heavily influenced by the society and mythology of the Indians of the Pacific Northwest. The author, Judith Berman, is an anthropologist who studied with those peoples; she has an essay somewhere online on how she dealt with the issues of cultural appropriation when writing the novel.

So, while there is certainly a dearth of American Indian-influenced fantasy, the field is not completely barren. (More, of course, would be good.)

So we will get info on another Casmaron city in Strange Aeons, cool.

Zeugma wrote:

Also: will the release of "Distant Shores" go along with the 2016 Adventure Path - will it feature some of the places in this gazeteer? I know that the 2016 AP is supposed to be C'thulhu themed, but that sounds more like "Distant Worlds" than "Distant Shores."

There is no connection between the Casmaron city in this book and the edge of Casmaron explored in Strange Aeons (aside from being in the same continent).

But there are 3 Casmaron cities in this book? However, I think I can safely say none of them are in the Parchlands.

Edited to spell Parchlands correctly.

3 Casmaron cities, I only see one?

3 Casmaron cities, I only see one?

One in Iblydos, one in Vudra, and the other one those are all in Casmaron.

I thought Iblydos was an island off the coast of Casmaron and it might be it's own country with no relation to Casmaron.

Yeah, I forgot about the Vudra one.

I thought Iblydos was an island off the coast of Casmaron and it might be it's own country with no relation to Casmaron.

Yeah, I forgot about the Vudra one.

I think what was meant is:

Casmaron is the name of the continent, which includes the large peninsula that is Vudra as well as any islands that are in close association with the contine t that is Casmaron (i.e. Iblydos).

This is much the same as Hermea, an island nation, belongs with the (sub)continent that is Avistan, which is the landmass that is north of the Inner Sea (i.e. the top half of the Inner Sea Region).

This is like how the island nation of Madagascar is included as part of the African continent (i.e. it is part of Africa eventhough it isn't connected to it by land). The same for Japan, an archipelago of islands that is itself a separate country/nation but still part of Asia.

So yeah, three cities from Casmaron...

<edit> Added real-world examples.

I thought Iblydos was an island off the coast of Casmaron and it might be it's own country with no relation to Casmaron.

Yeah, I forgot about the Vudra one.

Knowing how Paizo usually does things, I assume it will be like Greece, with some of it on land and then an archipelago.. But yes still part of the continent of Casmaron.

Is there a map or maps covering the entire world of Golarion available somewhere?

From the blog:

http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderCampaignSetting/PZO9226-StolenMap. jpg

So we will get info on another Casmaron city in Strange Aeons, cool.

Not really, no. A new region in Casmaron, the Parchlands, will feature in Strange Aeons, as will an ancient ruined city, but nothing friendly lives there...