Announced! The cover is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

I asked for this!! WOO hoo! I hope there is more races then the 7 core!!! Woo hoo.

You should read the description. Every playable race in the entire game will be in this book.

Plus new ones you can make from scratch.

I refuse to buy this book at this point in time.

ask me again next year.

...but I like that cover!

This seems very interesting. Dhampir options alone are enough to peek my curiosity, but options for everybody is great! I realize that this is really preemptive, but is there a chance that we'll see favored class options for non-core races within this book?

Must.....have.....now.......

Faster Merisiel! Stab! Stab!

Very cool but I don't want to wait that long.

WANT!

...Plus new ones you can make from scratch.

That sounds very interesting. Nice touch.

A wish list is being made here at this thread

So put down your Ideas, but please read it in it's entirety and discuss the various ideas.

Erik Mona wrote:

...Plus new ones you can make from scratch.

That sounds very interesting. Nice touch.

I do believe that this could be fun.

I want this book

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Lizardfolk.

Much better name than "Ultimate races".

I can't wait for this and the Beastairy III

Very cool but I don't want to wait that long.

ditto

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Lizardfolk.

Well put it in the wish list at

"Advanced Race Guide" Wish List

Announced! The cover is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

Vic. There is no way you're going to be able to get race in the name of this thing without setting somebody off. If these are the advanced races does that make all the others inferior and suitable for genocide/enslavement?

How about calling this thing the advanced species guide instead?

They're called races in the game, so the word "race" is going to be in the title of the book.

In fact, the title of the book is going to be "Advanced Race Guide".

Given that EVERY SINGLE PC-appropriate race will be included in this book, they all get to be "advanced" races together.

Does that mean that a black dragon or an aboleth or something might get offended because it is not "advanced"?

Probably.

So be it. I am not afraid of them, because they are imaginary.

More important, I think, is the clever use of the singular "Race" in the title of a guide to multiple races. You'd have to work pretty hard to ignore the obvious conclusion that it's an advanced guide to the game element called "race", not to a guide to an advanced race (since it contains multiple) or to advanced races (since the title is singular). So, the rest of us can all safely ignore anyone who makes such a strenuous effort to be offended.

PC Faerie Dragon

PC Quasit

PC Half-Faerie Dragon

I demand all of these! Please? Please please please?

Gillmen?

PC Faerie Dragon

PC Quasit

PC Half-Faerie Dragon

I demand all of these! Please? Please please please?

Lastly, the Advanced Race Guide includes an extensive section that allows players and GMs to build their own custom races, either to emulate more powerful creatures that already exist in the game or to create wholly original characters unique to their campaign.

So ... sure, no problem.

Gillmen?

Yep.

Cool.
I know that they are basically just human with an aquatic template, but I think the descendants of Azlant deserve a bit more love than the occasional paragraph they have received in other products.

PC Faerie Dragon

PC Quasit

PC Half-Faerie Dragon

I demand all of these! Please? Please please please?

Todd, your "Little Dragon" fetish is scary.

I don't prefer any races beside humans, hope their part of the book will be the largest.

Only one thing. Mordan Spire Elf extended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cat Girls?

So this has 64 pages less the the just announced Beastary 3. But both retail for $39.99.

Should'nt it be less?

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Lizardfolk.

Word, brother.

So this has 64 pages less the the just announced Beastary 3. But both retail for $39.99.

Should'nt it be less?

Who said it was 64 pages? Since it is a hardback book I imagine it will be at least 200 pages.

CapeCodRPGer wrote:

So this has 64 pages less the the just announced Beastary 3. But both retail for $39.99.

Should'nt it be less?

Who said it was 64 pages? Since it is a hardback book I imagine it will be at least 200 pages.

The Beastary 3 is 320 pages, the Advanced Race Guide 256 pages. 64 pages LESS then the Beastary 3. But both retail for the same price.

All Paizo hardcovers cost 40 USD. While APG/UM/UC/ARG have fever pages, they have more text, due to bestiaries being art heavy. So it kinda evens out.

I also say yes to catgirls with no cha penalty to there stats.

My GM is going to 'love' this book. He always likes to play races besides the core 7. I know he will especially like the section on making your own custom race.

Looking forward to this book as well, but just wish the date wasn't so far out!

Would like a playable mongrelfolk, playable monsters, and simple templates to turn that good old elf into a reptilian, insectectiod, twoheaded, winged monstrosity that i want them to be, especiallly after so many years of gaming with the same old races

OK, it had to happen.

Not interested. Also, would be a sad panda if supporting cast NPCs of exotic races would become suddenly more frequent than the current rare/thematically appropriate (eg. tieflings in CoT) as a consequence.

OK, it had to happen.

Not interested. Also, would be a sad panda if supporting cast NPCs of exotic races would become suddenly more frequent than the current rare/thematically appropriate (eg. tieflings in CoT) as a consequence.

I don't know about that, adventurers are the oddball of the game world.

So this has 64 pages less the the just announced Beastary 3. But both retail for $39.99.

Should'nt it be less?

I asked something similar when Ultimate Magic came out (at 256 pages for $39.99).

I'd guess that as we get further from core, sales are fewer, so prices need to be higher to maintain margins. I would further guess that Bestiaries are always more popular and have greater sales.

As always, though, the question will come down to what it's worth to you personally. Is a 256-full color book on races worth $39.99 to you (or $25-27 on amazon) or not?

For me, being a subscriber (thus the free pdf) and owning an iPad2, it very much *is* worth the price.

Besides, it's Paizo, so you know the quality will be there.

Cool

Any plans for a Golarion specific follow-up?

Well put your ideas in the wish list at

"Advanced Race Guide" Wish List

And please read the entries.

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Lizardfolk.

VEGEPYGMY VEGEPYGMY

They're called races in the game, so the word "race" is going to be in the title of the book.

Did you know that the German version doesn't use "Rasse" (=race). It uses "Volk" (=people). I don't know how long that is, it was that way in 3e.

We're never using Volk, but that's the way it is.

Maybe it is because of the racism angle, but then again, the German translations have a long tradition of being bad and using exactly the wrong words.

April 2012. Thats like a year away. 8(

wish they hadn't announced so far in advance! can't wait!!

I just gotta say I appreciate the response on the title change. I was gonna buy this book anyway, but now I can buy it and like the title!

April 2012. Thats like a year away. 8(

wish they hadn't announced so far in advance! can't wait!!

I know, but hey, life does give you lemons, and it is about 10 months away

I'll still buy it.

The only Up side to early announcement is that we can compile a wishlist for the book for the staff to know what we need, want and any useful ideas that we come up with.

I wonder . . . will some of the playable (non-core) races detailed in this book be augmented for general PC 'balance', as tieflings were in CoT?

I'm looking forward to this. Maybe I'll get it for my birthday next year! :)

I wonder . . . will some of the playable (non-core) races detailed in this book be augmented for general PC 'balance', as tieflings were in CoT?

I'm looking forward to this. Maybe I'll get it for my birthday next year! :)

I already put that on the wish list in the first post.

Rhys Grey wrote:

I wonder . . . will some of the playable (non-core) races detailed in this book be augmented for general PC 'balance', as tieflings were in CoT?

I'm looking forward to this. Maybe I'll get it for my birthday next year! :)

I already put that on the wish list in the first post.

Cool, thanks for the link! :)