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Go wyrmwraith!
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Tough choice! I like the wyrmwraith's positive energy transference - gives it more of a reason to intentionally create spawn. That, along with nixing divine spells, could make this creature a headache for clerics and the like.
With all those emotion abilities and fear gazes, occult characters will rahter hate sahkils, it seems! Sahkils can better embody the "summon things at your own risk" trope rather well.
I'm still sticking with the pakalchi, but it's a close call.
Love the encantado art!
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Both of my picks were right! :-p
And awesome artwork as usual! Cool mythological pics!
Wait, the Encantado is female?
Encantado can be both female and male in the myth if I remember correctly, or people draw the Encantado female on google...
I voted for the Difficult-Named Lady.
Just because Dragons always win, and I think its time for a new-comer to take the prize this time.
While I really LOVE the Wyrmwraith, very cool skeletal/ghost dragon design, and one of my favorite dragons, uhm undead, as the undead group could really use some freaking non-humanoids :-p
Liz, I love you for posting the Akaname, Encantado and Papipapi (the blue guy with the torch and one eye, with extremely difficult name to remember)!!! Very cool pics! Even the Deep One (which don't really interest me that much) has beautiful artwork.
Huh, I was thinking the exact opposite. The wyrmwraith is pretty much immune to all the nastier things it can throw at it. Fear? Nope. Poison? Nope. Mind-control? Nope. What else is it gonna do?
And I have a question.
I'll buy the PDF as soon as it is available, probably don't even sleep and eat on Wednesday to download it as soon as it is available.
But what if I also WIN this competition, and are one of the 4 winners, but I already bought the PDF, then the prize would be in vain...
What happens then? :-p
Huh, I was thinking the exact opposite. The wyrmwraith is pretty much immune to all the nastier things it can throw at it. Fear? Nope. Poison? Nope. Mind-control? Nope. What else is it gonna do?
I agree (hence my fight commentary). The leshy was also immune to the morrigna's specials, but it was a less formidable opponent than the wyrmwraith and would have had to win a battle of attrition against the pakalchi.
I voted against the Dragon in every round until now, as Bugs Bunny always says "If you can't beat them, join them"
Edit: of course I have a Bugs Bunny alias:-)
Dragon. No question. Only the drakes couldn't take this Sakil.
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Wait, the Encantado is female?
That example is.
When I ordered the art, I figured, why limit exciting encantado times to just one gender?
Papinijuwari is my new favorite creature in Pathfinder (sorry Alraune)
It looks so insane cool!
In my own project they become minions/right-hands for the Gaasyendietha/Meteor Dragons.
How could I not know that awesome Aussie myth creature before?
Going to have to give my vote to the sahkil. The thing is too damn cool not to. Can't wait to see the results, this thing has me ridiculously excited.
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sad that the deep merfolk didn't make it to the final round
Hold on, has it changed that voting for the winning monster increases your chance of winning the raffle, or has it always been like that? I don't recall that at all. All I remember is that the more you vote the better chance you have.
EDIT: I went back to the last post and that little tidbit of information is indeed there. Huh. Doesn't bode well for me that both the merfolk and the leshy lost!
The art is pretty rad. Especially the papinijuwari. The deep one hybrid is not exactly what I envisioned, but its's properly fishy. The encantando, though good artwork, seems really bizarre to me. I think I would've preferred it remained gender-neutral in appearance. Sure, have a female one, but the hair and breasts matched with the dolphin face kinda throw me off. That's to say I think any hair on a dolphin-faced head would throw me off.
The art is pretty rad. Especially the papinijuwari. The deep one hybrid is not exactly what I envisioned, but its's properly fishy. The encantando, though good artwork, seems really bizarre to me. I think I would've preferred it remained gender-neutral in appearance. Sure, have a female one, but the hair and breasts matched with the dolphin face kinda throw me off. That's to say I think any hair on a dolphin-faced head would throw me off.
Did you misspell Bad or is Rad another word?
I wouldn't believe you find that Papinijuwari art bad.
The art is pretty rad. Especially the papinijuwari. The deep one hybrid is not exactly what I envisioned, but its's properly fishy. The encantando, though good artwork, seems really bizarre to me. I think I would've preferred it remained gender-neutral in appearance. Sure, have a female one, but the hair and breasts matched with the dolphin face kinda throw me off. That's to say I think any hair on a dolphin-faced head would throw me off.Did you misspell Bad or is Rad another word?
I wouldn't believe you find that Papinijuwari art bad.
Rad is short for Radical. Which is a compliment. It means cool. West Coast US slang, I think.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as a wee-lad was the first time I heard it.
lol, never heard that word before, it is confusing to say the least :-p
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Nooooo! Lotus Leshy!
And there goes my last original pick. :(
Oh well. Wyrmwraith is pretty cool.
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Wait, the Encantado is female?That example is.
When I ordered the art, I figured, why limit exciting encantado times to just one gender?
I'm excited about this one. Brazilian mythology is rarely used in RPGs. I hope that now that we have occult adventures you guys use african-brazilian religions like Umbanda and Candomblé as sources of inspiration =)
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I'm excited about this one. Brazilian mythology is rarely used in RPGs. I hope that now that we have occult adventures you guys use african-brazilian religions like Umbanda and Candomblé as sources of inspiration =)Wait, the Encantado is female?That example is.
When I ordered the art, I figured, why limit exciting encantado times to just one gender?
We still need Cuca, Curupira, Capelobo, Mapinguari, Headless Mule, Minhocao, Boitata and Saci to make the most-needed-brazilian-stuff complete. Then we can have a Brazilian Mega-Parteee!
Add some Alicanto, Nguruvilu and Invunche to add to the South American flava's and voila, a South American Party :-p
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The curupira very nearly made it into B5, so it's definitely possible you might see it some day.
Same was said about the Inuit Mahaha, but we still didn't see it :-( (and probably we never will, this book only had 3 cold-based monsters and like 3 black oozes... something must be very wrong with the Mahaha that it didn't gained a spot over one of the black oozes)
Hope you are right about the Curupira, though the Kijimuna looks somewhat similar with the hair, so it could stand as a weird stand-in lol.
Go Wyrmwraith!! vengeance for Su!!! destroy the Pakalchi!!
It's easily the wyrmwraith. As others have said before me, the Pakalchi Sahkiln can't do anything to it besides use it's Ghost Touch weapons against the dragon....but who wants to go head-to-head in a physical fight against a dragon?
The art is pretty rad. Especially the papinijuwari. The deep one hybrid is not exactly what I envisioned, but its's properly fishy. The encantando, though good artwork, seems really bizarre to me. I think I would've preferred it remained gender-neutral in appearance. Sure, have a female one, but the hair and breasts matched with the dolphin face kinda throw me off. That's to say I think any hair on a dolphin-faced head would throw me off.Did you misspell Bad or is Rad another word?
I wouldn't believe you find that Papinijuwari art bad.
Rad is short for Radical. Which is a compliment. It means cool. West Coast US slang, I think.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as a wee-lad was the first time I heard it.
I live in the Midwest, so not too sure about that. ^_^
Though I wouldn't know, and it's not like I use the word everyday, or even every week. I wouldn't be surprised to find its use much more prevalent in the West Coast.
Dragon of course.
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Aww...I was voting for cute flower.
But I don't overly care either way. May the best monster win!
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I was Lotus Leshy all the way. ;__;
The curupira very nearly made it into B5, so it's definitely possible you might see it some day.
This is very interesting to me. I'd really like to see the Curupira at some point. Was it already written up, with stats and stuff, or simply on the proposed list of creatures?
Also, wasn't there a Squonk planned for B4? Its artwork (if I remember correctly) turned up online alongside the Roiling Oil's, so when the Oil was shown I had hoped that the Squonk had gotten in too. Is it likely that one will ever see the light of day?
Also, pure curiosity's sake here, but are there any other creatures, (particularly ones from the B5 wish list thread) that were strongly considered for the book that you feel it would be okay to mention?
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The curupira very nearly made it into B5, so it's definitely possible you might see it some day.This is very interesting to me. I'd really like to see the Curupira at some point. Was it already written up, with stats and stuff, or simply on the proposed list of creatures?
Also, wasn't there a Squonk planned for B4? Its artwork (if I remember correctly) turned up online alongside the Roiling Oil's, so when the Oil was shown I had hoped that the Squonk had gotten in too. Is it likely that one will ever see the light of day?
Also, pure curiosity's sake here, but are there any other creatures, (particularly ones from the B5 wish list thread) that were strongly considered for the book that you feel it would be okay to mention?
I second this, I really would like to know that too!
I'm excited about this one. Brazilian mythology is rarely used in RPGs. I hope that now that we have occult adventures you guys use african-brazilian religions like Umbanda and Candomblé as sources of inspiration =)Wait, the Encantado is female?That example is.
When I ordered the art, I figured, why limit exciting encantado times to just one gender?
South American mythology was definitely a sub-focus this time around. While the sahkil, have inspirations from there, the encantado, saxra, cerufe, and others (including a few that got cut for space) come straight from the myths of Peru, Brazil, and older legends.
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The curupira very nearly made it into B5, so it's definitely possible you might see it some day.This is very interesting to me. I'd really like to see the Curupira at some point. Was it already written up, with stats and stuff, or simply on the proposed list of creatures?
Also, wasn't there a Squonk planned for B4? Its artwork (if I remember correctly) turned up online alongside the Roiling Oil's, so when the Oil was shown I had hoped that the Squonk had gotten in too. Is it likely that one will ever see the light of day?
Also, pure curiosity's sake here, but are there any other creatures, (particularly ones from the B5 wish list thread) that were strongly considered for the book that you feel it would be okay to mention?
The curupira got all the way to the end, but we weren't feeling the art. (Turns out that illustrating a little guy who runs fast with his feet on backwards is challenging to get just right.)
That's a factor worth pointing out. For all the monsters in our bestiaries everything has to be in The Zone: story, design, and illustration. If something slips, there's a strong chance the entry gets side-boarded. That doesn't mean it won't ever see the light of day, it just means that it's not right for the project du jour.
Then sometimes everything works perfectly and a creature STILL doesn't make it in. Take the roiling oil, for example. I ordered that guy for Bestiary 2. It's great art, it's a cool monsters, so why'd it take until now to slip in?
Take a look at your Bestiary. You'll see that there are, generally, two types of layouts: one pagers and two pagers—and two pagers NEVER split over a spread.
NEVER.
That's not by happenstance. Every Bestiary is a gigantic book puzzle. So if something slips, if a monster gets cut, if a name changes, if anything happens that reorders the book’s pagination by even one page, EVERYTHING slides. What that often means is that nothing dies alone. If one monster goes away, probably two monsters go away. Or something gets renamed.
That's part of what happened to the roiling oil. It got chopped from B2, got picked up for B3 then chopped again, never made it off the sideboard for B4, but finally found a home here... a half decade later. That's a lengthy example, but not the oldest (there's at least one oldie from Bestiary 1 who's never made it up to bat). It also happens to everyone. One of my guys for B5 got shuffled off because of the harsh realism of "We need to lose a book somewhere between 'Ho-' and "Ki-."
And that's just one harsh production reality.
Pffh. Bookmaking—am I right?
As for if there are other monsters that didn't make the cut or were seriously considered, etcetera: Of course. Dozens. There are well over a hundred rows on the "sideboard" tab of my Bestiary Monsters spreadsheet.
But it's okay, we'll either find spots for them down the road or assure that they keep good company on the Isle of Misfit Monsters.
Is that oldie from Bestiary 1 by any means the Ravid? Or the Digester? Or the Arrowhawk? (I don't think those Ethereal Creature make a chance)
The curupira got all the way to the end, but we weren't feeling the art. (Turns out that illustrating a little guy who runs fast with his feet on backwards is challenging to get just right.)
Guy? You really should have used Emilie Ravin from the old Beastmaster TV series more for inspiration.
And if you want to do the Curupira right, you can always give it a Peccari Pig steed to ride.
I guess I am one of the few who finds the Encantado ridiculous? Now, the Papinjuwari is really "rad"! ;)
The Wyrmwraith! One of my favs of the B5 art I have seen. Should be no contest. That sakhil should be weeping and wailing in no time at all--then silenced just as quick.
I guess I am one of the few who finds the Encantado ridiculous?
You are not.
#kindofthepoint
I was disappointed that the Encantado wasn't a magical dolphin creature instead we got a "mer-dolphin".
So you have a 100 rows of on the sideboard, so how many creature(s) is in a single row?
I was disappointed that the Encantado wasn't a magical dolphin creature instead we got a "mer-dolphin".
So you have a 100 rows of on the sideboard, so how many creature(s) is in a single row?
It's actually both, as it's a (shapechanger).
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<The woe of spreads>
This is so true.
In fact, sometimes we decide between two alternate names to fix that jigsaw puzzle after a small change. For instance, the four veela were never going to fit on one page but initially were slated for only one, and vahana appeared under the name of the sample creature (makara) in the 'm's, with vilderavn under the Danish name valravn instead of the Germanic. We had the page to give to veela due to another change, but if you picture that situation, you see that it would wind up splitting veela. We managed to get all that to work without losing anything by changing which culture's name we used for the valravn/vilderavn, but as you guys can see, it was a complex combination of shifts!
Liz, I have a question for you, the Heikegani in the Bestiary 5 doesn't have a full picture (its legs are cut off) can you post the Heikegani picture with the 4 pictures (if any) you gonna post tomorrow?
My thanks will be endless.