GM Fanguar's Savage Tide (Inactive)

Game Master Fanguar

I think I'll take it.

GM, can I take the Additional Traits feat even though these characters got campaign feats instead of traits?

I had asked the same thing when in my leveling post. If allowed Justified was thinking to take some traits to make some skills class skills.

I'm ok with putting the boots in the pot. Don't think they could be put to good use.

Moira - Unchained Rogue level 5
Saving Throws: No Change
BAB: No Change
Hit Points: half hit dice +1, +2 con, +1` favored class

Rogue Ability: Rogue's Edge - Perception Skill. Not sure how Mastery will work here.

Skill Points: 9
Acrobatics +1
Appraise +1
Climb +1
Disable Device +1
Escape Artist +1
Sense Motive +1
Stealth +1
Swim +1
Use Magical Device +1

Cool. So, as Justified already figured earlier, that leaves us each with a gain of 1,007.5gps.

Totally up to you, Bron, if you want to take the pearl and 507.5gp instead. It won't affect the rest of our shares either way.

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With the shares from this round of looting, that brings Graythan up to 3,848.3gp.
I'll sell my quickdraw steel shield and pick up a +1 enchantment for my breastplate as well as a cloak of resistance +1

3848.3
+29.5 (sold shield)
-1,000gp (+1 enhancement added to armor)
-1,000gp (cloak of resistance +1)

Remaining: 1,877.8gp

I'll fiddle around and peruse the PRD to see if there's any mudane equipment I might want to pick up for the expedition.

Ok. Its agreed as far as the loot goes. We each have 1007.5 gold and all the loot is sold. Bron re-buys the pearl of Power for 500, leaving him 507.5.

Unless... we need to spend any of this to outfit our boat?

Are we sure that Saravend has left?

He hasnt replied to the pm I sent the other week and last I checked none of his aliases were active either. so, sadly, yeah- I think he's gone

Level 5:

HP: increases by 6 to 33

Spells per day: gains 1 Lvl1 and 1 Lv2.

Spellbook: Adds Bladed Dash and Glitterdust.

Skills: 1 rank to spellcraft, 1 rank to intimidate, 1 rank to swim, 1 rank to Knowledge(planes), 1 rank to acrobatics, 1 rank to perception.

--If I can take Additional Traits--
Feat: Additional Traits (Bruising Intellect [Int instead of Cha to intimidate], Magical Lineage [Frostbite: when applying metamagic, treat spell as 1 level lower])
Bonus Feat: Rime spell
--If I cannot--
Edit: Feat: extra Arcana (flamboyant Deed)
I'd like to use the Ultimate Campaign retraining rules to retrain Weapon Finesse to Extra Arcana (Arcane deed [Precise Strike]) and use the Bonus feat to take Weapon Finesse again.

[Edited these feats for a different idea.]

Waiting to make purchases until we know if we need to contribute our cash to preparing the ship.

I'm here! I'm here!

I've been having some pretty serious technical issues with the Paizo message boards ever since their server update. As Graythan noted, few of my aliases show any activity, but I'm actually an active player in six different games. I cannot post from work, and I cannot post from my phone, and my games sometimes to do not show new activity. This game, in particular, NEVER shows an update. It's pretty darn frustrating.

I will catch up with the action and read over the posts tomorrow. Again, many apologies for the delay in getting back with you.

Is your phone an android phone? Try the Wayfinder app. It's paid but only $1.

What browser do you use?

I have a Windows phone (I know, I know. It was a Black Friday sale that I am regretting). I've tried Internet Explorer and Chrome at work. Neither works. I have no problem at home, and I don't really want to go emailing my IT department to ask them why I cannot access a gaming website, know what I mean?

Glad to have you back Savarend, not that you really went anywhere. I had some troubles too with that update but in the end was able to change browsers and can post from the office.

So the gold split is 805 gold 4 silver. That should be final.

If it's both Chrome and IE that aren't working at your office, you're probably behind a proxy that's still using TLS 1.0, which is no longer bueno on commercial transaction sites in the US.

You might mention to your IT group (perhaps without divulging the specific site) that you've been bumping into issues related to your TLS settings. If they can get you set to TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2, you'll likely be good to go at that point.

There is a relevant post on the matter here.

Forgot to take a Character Feat. Taking the Quick Draw feat for Moira.

Also, anyone know how Rogue's Edge works?

Nevermind on the flamboyant arcana. It was just massively nerfed in errata. Goddamnit, can't there be a middle ground between "overpowered" and "utterly useless trash"?

Plans for if no additional traits:
Feat: Combat expertise.
Bonus feat: Improved Trip

Furthermore, Slashing grace now says:

You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.

Given that spell combat specifically says it works like TWF, it seems like Bron may be completely unplayable.

I don't even know what to do about this. I'm glad I didn't get my PFS magus into high levels relying on Slashing Grace before this came out.

@ Graythan - You are 100% correct. I tried to post again while at work, and it indicated we are still on TLS 1.0 in the error message. I will have to wait a few days and not try to access Paizo at work before sending them a help ticket.

@ Bronwenir - Perhaps our GM can grandfather your character past the sticky hands of errata?

While the Forgemaster archetype looks pretty nifty on paper, in practice I am finding myself accomplishing very little in-game. Fanguar has graciously allowed me to start a new character. It will still be a healer, with UMD and better versatility. I'm still tinkering with the exact build.

I'm back(ish). Extra traits is totally fine with me.

Slashing grace was fine before, I'm fine with the pre-nerf version, but let's just say that off hand attacks are 1/2 dex. You can take a feat to make it full dex to off hand attacks (just take double slice). Some one at paizo really doesn't want dex builds to be viable...

I'm too lazy to look up the flamboyant arcana nerf, but feel free to explain the changes and I'll consider ignoring the errata.

Welcome back. Thanks, I'll probably go with extra traits, but it'll be good to sort this out for the future. Flamboyant arcana has the problem of it not being clear that having an arcane pool point counts as having a panache point for the purpose of riposte. Arcane deed has the problem that it seems that your effective swashbuckler level is 0 and you are not considered to have panache points in your pool for these deeds, which means most of them (the good ones, in particular precise strike) are useless.

I can understand, now that I've had time to think about it, them deciding that precise strike is too good for a magus. Pretty much everyone was taking it, and it added damage approximately equal to power attack without any penalty. I understand, but I don't agree. The reason it was so popular is that it let magi do decent damage, if not nova-class damage, without having to spend all their spells.

If you want to let me take Precise strike as it was widely thought to be pre-errata, with magus level = swashbuckler level and arcane points functioning as panache points, I would be very appreciative. If not, there are numerous other interesting options.

FYI - I am headed for Gen Con in the morning and will be mostly absent from the boards until Monday.

I'm on the fence with flamboyant arcana and precise strike, especially considering there are things like piranha strike. It's a pretty big bonus for 'free'. I think it exists mostly to help a one handed fighter scale closer to a two handed fighter. I might be persuaded if we tweak it, make it a standard action or incompatible with spell strike, or something.

My thought is just that a Magus should be secondary damage dealer except when novaing with spell strikes. I'm just a little concerned with a magus being able to consistently put out comparable damage to a fighter and still have all the general awesomeness of all those spells.

That's true, and that may be why the nerf was put in place. As long as I can still use slashing grace with the scarf, I'm fine with that. I'm going to try to focus on a more debuffing mode with Bron anyway.

repeating crossbow bolts (200) -40gp
acid flask (5) -50gp
alkali flask (5) -75gp
alchemist fire (5) -100gp
bottled lightning (2) -80gp
tanglefoot bag (1) -50gp
impact foam (1) -25gp
smokestick (3) -60gp
elixir of swimming (1) -250gp
ioun torch (1) -75gp
unguent of timelessness (1) -150gp
universal solvent (2) -100gp

Total spent: 1,055gp

Also snagged a medium chest (-5gp), a medium tent (-15gp), a healer's kit (-50gp), an antidote kit (-100gp), and a mapmaker's kit (-10gp).

Justified also stocks up on some alchemicals and potions and other items. He buys:

2 oil of bless weapon
2 potions of Enlarge Person
2 antitoxin
2 antiplague
1 climber's kit
1 Adamantine weapon blanch
1 Silver Glaive-guisarme
1 Cold Iron Glaive-guisarme

Hey folks. I'm in the midst of a move. It's been a busy few days and the next few don't look much better. I'll get a meaty post up as soon as I can. I should be settled by then end of the week. Thank you for your patience.

Take your time.
Moira still needs to head to the shop and pick up some things.

Ok folks. Things are mostly back to normal, so let's see about getting this game back up and running.

I'm putting together the NPC list for the voyage, so just a couple of things to confirm. Is it safe to assume that none of you will actually be part of the crew? Lavinia will deal with the hiring and there is no real disadvantage one way or the other, but it will affect the composition of the people on the boat, i.e crew vs PCs vs colonists, and that is important.

I would like to see Savarend's new PC before we sail out, so please post something for me to take a look at.

If you are buying stuff please post it, ala Graythan and Justified. This will be your last time to shop in a city for a while. I gather that you don't have any interest, at this time, in adding catapults or such to your ship, but if that isn't the case, let me know.

First, Justified does want to help with the crew and with both a little skill in knowledge geography and profession sailor I think he can do that. Unsure where he best fits. I do not want to cause a problem due to low skill though. Thoughts?

Second, we do not really have the funds to outfit a ship with large weapons as far as I know. After shopping Justified has about 40 gold.

Yeah, I personally am not all that concerned in learning the rules for naval combat then investing the time to outfit the ship, regardless of whether Lavinia foots the whole bill or not. Vehicular combat and other similar supplementary rules systems never really interested me all that much.

Very busy with things right now but I'll make purchases and prepare for the next adventure as soon as I am able to. GM seems to be in the same boat.

Grooming kit 1gp (gotta look my best)
Spellbook 15gp
Scribing all spells into Spellbook (for backup):
14x5g+12x10g+5x40g=390g
Medium Chest 5gp
Scroll of Glitterdust: 150g
Hot weather Outfit: 8g
Cold Weather Outfit: 8g
(Hey, we don't know what the weather might be like, it pays to be prepared!)

So have we seen Saravend's new character yet?

First, Justified does want to help with the crew and with both a little skill in knowledge geography and profession sailor I think he can do that. Unsure where he best fits. I do not want to cause a problem due to low skill though. Thoughts?

Second, we do not really have the funds to outfit a ship with large weapons as far as I know. After shopping Justified has about 40 gold.

The ship requires 7 people to crew it. Justified has the skills necessary to be a member of said crew. The only downside is that while at sea, You will be helping to sail the ship and not doing anything else. Similarly, if you have to stop to help in a fight, the ship will be undermanned. Realistically, this would only be a real problem if every PC was also a crew member. From an optimization standpoint, not being a crew member is probably best, but thematically....?

How about if he were an extra member of the crew? Best to have back ups after all...

How about if he were an extra member of the crew? Best to have back ups after all...

I like that idea best. Moira can help as a lookout. Spend some time on the crows nest or something like that. Character wise, I don't see her as the type to be part of the crew.

Finally got the gear ready. Thank god for Excel.

Medium Treasure Chest 7 gp
Arrows, common (15 quivers) 15 gp
star chart 200 gp
Rope, silk (50 ft) 10 gp
Torches (10)
Latern, Hooded Waterproof 12 gp
Ioun Torch 75 gp
Rations, Trail (60 days) 30 gp
Net, fishing 4 gp
Fishing Tackle 20 gp
Longbow, Composite (+1) 200 gp
Hot weather Outfit 8 gp
Cold weather Outfit 8 gp
Antitoxin (2) 100 gp
Canteen 2 gp
Endure Elements (3) 150 gp

Total of 841 gp, 10 cp

I PMed Savarend a couple of days ago and haven't heard anything back, so I'm not sure what is going on with him.

Are you guys ok with going forth with 4, or do you want me to look for another player?

We kinda need a healer to be honest. Maybe you could provide a NPC healer that comes with the ship?

I concur.

Aw, man. I'm sorry. I keep having technical issues with the site. I can no longer post from work, or from my phone, and games are not updating on my focus list. This game slipped my mind. I posted this in my other games a few days ago:

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Swampwalker
Hey guys.

I was involved in a motor vehicle collision this morning. My car was rear-ended and then pushed into the rear of the car ahead of me at about 40 mph. The local hospital says I have whiplash, a lumbar sprain, and a concussion. It took me about 5 minutes to write this. I will post tomorrow after a good night's sleep. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks.
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I will have that character finished ASAP. Tomorrow evening!

Good to hear from you Saverend and glad to hear you were not hurt worse. I am looking forward to seeing your new build.

Almost ready...

So I guess the occult adventures book is out...

I wouldn't say that kineticist really falls under the blanket of 'divine caster', but if that's what you want to play.

Make sure you guys pick up some wands of CLW for Graythan, if you haven't already.

Er, I have 39 gold. Have we completed our loot division? Do we have a complete list of loot?

It doesn't fit the usual conception of a 'divine caster' but my character can heal himself and others, has maxed UMD for wands, and can provide many powers for utility and battlefield control. Also, the Occult Adventures material is now available on d20pfsrd.

I have some extra money after character creation to contribute to wands, if need be.

I have a full wand of inflict light wounds for healing myself and a full wand of cure light wounds for healing others. If you guys want more than that for yourselves, then certainly kick in for more wands. As for me, I think between being ranged, having inflict inflict spells in my spells known and the inflict wand, Graythan should be set for quite some time as far as self-heals are concerned.

*Shrug* I can see the burn non-lethal damage becoming an issue with healing. I'm intrigued enough to see how a kineticist plays out, as I don't think they look that great on paper. I look forward to being proven wrong.

FYI - I am traveling for the next week and will be back home on August 30. I'll have limited posting until then, but I should be on some. And after I get back I am headed to Dragon Con on September 3 and will likely not post between the 3rd and 7th.

We stuck?