Clamoring for a 2e Technology Guide

[exequiel759]

Dimity wrote:

Can this book please include the Solarian, Vanguard, and Biohacker classes?

You already have Solarian in SF2e.

[Tyriphian the Thread Psychopomp]

If the technology involves spam bots, then it should stay buried and lost in Numeria.

[keftiu]

exequiel759 wrote:

Dimity wrote:

Can this book please include the Solarian, Vanguard, and Biohacker classes?

You already have Solarian in SF2e.

That post is from 2022, before SF2 was announced :)

[Master Han Del of the Web]

Man, that's the first time I've seen one put a link in someone else's mouth.

[JiCi]

Well, if Starfnder 2E is supposed to be 100% compatible with P2E, we... won't need a Tech Guide. Any item from SF2E book could be used for P2E in Numeria.

[kaid]

JiCi wrote:

Well, if Starfnder 2E is supposed to be 100% compatible with P2E, we... won't need a Tech Guide. Any item from SF2E book could be used for P2E in Numeria.

Yup at this point it would almost be strange if we don't get some numeria stuff once SF2e is out because all the rules would be available to make it work and compatible.

[Master Han Del of the Web]

I do imagine there's a place for a more robust set of rules for achieving the right flavor for Numeria. The vibe of Numeria was definitely not just 'Starfinder on Golarion'. Traits for things like salvaged tech, relevant archetypes, Numerian-ized monsters, etc.

[kaid]

Master Han Del of the Web wrote:

I do imagine there's a place for a more robust set of rules for achieving the right flavor for Numeria. The vibe of Numeria was definitely not just 'Starfinder on Golarion'. Traits for things like salvaged tech, relevant archetypes, Numerian-ized monsters, etc.

Yes having SF2e means the stuff is there and balanced so fleshing out the numeria aspect of interacting with tech that is thousands of years old and of suspect levels of repair and stuff that surrounds it. You could much more easily do a smaller lost omen book like the high helm book to cover numeria if you don't have to put in the entire amount of gear from SF2e. You can focus more on the setting and player options for interacting with the stuff and how to acquire it and what kind of state the gear is in.

[Master Han Del of the Web]

That would also give a lot more room to flesh out the state Numeria is in post-Iron Gods, which has got to be a wild place.

[Ascalaphus]

I think it'd be really cool if they used a Numeria book to show how that tech is different from what you'd have in Starfinder. In Starfinder a lot of the tech is new, or at least people know what an object is supposed to be. In Numeria you might get a lot more stuff like people cutting up big plastic vats to repurpose them as lightweight plate armor.

[steelhead]

I would also like to clamor, as I believe a 2E tech guide will be easier to pull off after SF2 comes out. Providing a more rounded book with tech rules specifically for Pathfinder would be great as baseline game assumptions are different (earlier and easier access to flight is a thing in SF, correct?). Additionally, more and updated lore on the region will provide a fantastic resource!

Maybe we’re getting this with the tease of two new Impossible class play-tests? One can only hope.

[moosher12]

During the last Paizo Stream, it was mentioned that interest in bringing Golarion back to Numeria was there in light of Starfinder 2E coming out, so the good thing is, a technology guide as a lost omens book post Starfinder probably would not be out of the question to talk about how to integrate Starfinder content in Pathfinder.

Though the Starfinder GM Core is supposed to discuss intercompatibility between Starfinder and Pathfinder, so I'm not sure if everything to be said will already be covered in the Starfinder GM Core.

While a lot of Starfinder stuff can be spliced into Pathfinder, not everything has a place, and I'm not sure if the Starfinder GM Core will have enough pages to do it to a satisfactory level. Plus, it gives room to talk about Pathfinder innovations on Numerian technology (and potentially Stasian technology? A Technology Guide can also encompass Earthling 1920-30's tech), Who doesn't wanna do a heist in a rich irriseni collector to obtain a 1911?

[Driftbourne]

Iron Gods for 2e was talked about in the Paizo live 11 days ago, it's at around 1:43

Paizo live .

Also in that video it mentions that the Starfidner GM core will have the cross over-rules and or advice including pictures of Iconic characters from both Pathfinder and Starfinder in the opposite setting.

[BotBrain]

Ascalaphus wrote:

I think it'd be really cool if they used a Numeria book to show how that tech is different from what you'd have in Starfinder. In Starfinder a lot of the tech is new, or at least people know what an object is supposed to be. In Numeria you might get a lot more stuff like people cutting up big plastic vats to repurpose them as lightweight plate armor.

Very much this!

The cool part of numeria is not just that it's high sci-fi in a fantasy setting, but that it also considers how the fantasy inhabitants of the setting would interact with the technology. Just adding rules for laser guns in pf2e would miss the mark, imo.

[Perpdepog]

I'd still love a Numeria book. Honestly, I think I'll love a Numeria book that comes out post-SF2E more than I would have one previously. The book won't have to spend page-space explaining a lot of high-tech rules and things; it can point to SF2E for that. It can focus on the stuff that makes Numeria Numeria, instead. Rules for timeworn tech, weirder, less standardized items like the cobbled together stuff that pops up in Kingmaker, archetypes centered around being a tech-savvy berserker, cyborg, or a mutant, a nice, chunky bestiary full of robots, aliens, and other Numerian monsters, and ,of course, my beloved tables for drinking those sweet, sweet Numerian fluids.

[WatersLethe]

I just want to say our group has been having an absolute blast even just with the SF2 playtest stuff. Mixing and matching SF2 and PF2 content is so much fun (already played Barbarians, Inventors, Monks, Investigators, and Elemental Avatars* in SF2). I would love a Numeria book to sit as an unofficial SF2-PF2 crossover guidebook with options that archaicize modern tech and futurize ancient tech, while also providing all the in-world Numeria lore the setting deserves.

Whatever they do, I'm so excited for it.

[kaid]

Master Han Del of the Web wrote:

That would also give a lot more room to flesh out the state Numeria is in post-Iron Gods, which has got to be a wild place.

Also post war of the immortals. God knows what kind of stuff is happening when shards of god armor/blood rain down on a place as messed up as numeria.

[WatersLethe]

kaid wrote:

Master Han Del of the Web wrote:

That would also give a lot more room to flesh out the state Numeria is in post-Iron Gods, which has got to be a wild place.

Also post war of the immortals. God knows what kind of stuff is happening when shards of god armor/blood rain down on a place as messed up as numeria.

mmmm add it to the gumbo