Eldritch Trickster and Dedication Feats

[Scharlata]

Hi, you wise folk at the forums (or fora),

does gaining the archetype's dedication feat from the chosen multiclass archetype prevent a character from selecting another dedication feat until s/he has gained two other feats from the selected archetype?

What do you think (or know)?

Grateful for any hints.

[Blave]

Yes, you need another 2 feats of the archetype before you can get another dedication. Nothing in the Trickster Racket says otherwise, so the rules for the Dedication feats still fully apply.

[Scharlata]

Thank you, Blave

[UnArcaneElection]

So how does this ultimately end up interacting with Ancient Elf?

[TiwazBlackhand]

UnArcaneElection wrote:

So how does this ultimately end up interacting with Ancient Elf?

Ah well, I think I can explain that, using the responses I have gotten from official sources on this topic, you see, the way it works is

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~runs away~

[UnArcaneElection]

^So does this mean that is one of those paradoxes that could destroy the universe? Or would the destruction be confined to our own galaxy?

[Person-Man]

The singularity here is where ET, MCA, Free Archetype, Dual Class, and Ancient Elf all meet, and existence blips out for a moment.

Not to worry though, Rule 0 lets the GM divide by 0 and undo the damage, at least on the local scale so it's best to ask them whenever you run into things that provide Archetype Feats through means other than spending a normal run of the mill Class Feat on it.

[Kalaam]

If you do it, the entire Elf race just disappears, like the Dwemer of TES.

[Alchemic_Genius]

This interaction is actually I have my own homebrew Eldritch Trickster Dedication that just gives 2 cantrips from a choosen tradition, proficiency that scales at the same rate as monk and champion, and rogue feats that supply the basic/expert/master slots as well as a breadth feat. It doesn't fix the issue of spell attacks and magical trickster not working, but tbh, nothing short of item bonuses to spell attacks will fix that issue. It does, however, avoid locking out the rogue from taking other archetypes.

As written, Mastermind and Scondrel are actually better rackets for casters; mastermind is the way sans demoralize + dread striker to actually set up flatfootedfor spells with range, and scondrel's feint provides a decently hefty -2 on reflex save for point blank electric arcs, as well as cone/line blasting. Eldritch Trickster gets neither, and early access to magical trickster means nothing if you can't ever use it.

[Riddlyn]

Alchemic_Genius wrote:

This interaction is actually I have my own homebrew Eldritch Trickster Dedication that just gives 2 cantrips from a choosen tradition, proficiency that scales at the same rate as monk and champion, and rogue feats that supply the basic/expert/master slots as well as a breadth feat. It doesn't fix the issue of spell attacks and magical trickster not working, but tbh, nothing short of item bonuses to spell attacks will fix that issue. It does, however, avoid locking out the rogue from taking other archetypes.

As written, Mastermind and Scondrel are actually better rackets for casters; mastermind is the way sans demoralize + dread striker to actually set up flatfootedfor spells with range, and scondrel's feint provides a decently hefty -2 on reflex save for point blank electric arcs, as well as cone/line blasting. Eldritch Trickster gets neither, and early access to magical trickster means nothing if you can't ever use it.

Because this actually makes more sense since it's a class feature. You can't take the subclass without take the dedication so the dedication feats should count as class feats in this case