Replays for PFS1


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For the past 18 months or so, I have been mainly playing PFS2, with a few scattered PFS1 games finishing up the un-played scenarios.
This week, my group is playing a scenario I played 9 years ago. I told them if they need me to make a legal table, I'd be happy to play a pregen.
One mentioned that long time players should have some replays.
I only ever GM'ed once, so have no relays from there.
Did I earn some replays after the switch to PFS2?
If so, where would I find them listed?

Thanks!

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They appear to have vanished off of My Organized Play section.

They used to be under the GM/Event Coordinator tab within your My Organized Play, at the top of the content page. You should have a button that says Refresh, which you'd click to see your table credit and PFS(2) AcP. It once held PFS(1) replays. They where awarded based on some calculation of the number of PFS(1) scenarios ever played.

They were also supposed to generate a printable boon and count down as you used them, but that technical upgrade took a back seat to 1) getting AcP to calculate correctly and 2) getting the PFS(2) boons to assign and print correctly.

Bottom line: I don't have an idea how you could guess how many replays you're supposed to have if you didn't see it back when they awarded them.


Aristophanes wrote:

For the past 18 months or so, I have been mainly playing PFS2, with a few scattered PFS1 games finishing up the un-played scenarios.

This week, my group is playing a scenario I played 9 years ago. I told them if they need me to make a legal table, I'd be happy to play a pregen.
One mentioned that long time players should have some replays.
I only ever GM'ed once, so have no relays from there.
Did I earn some replays after the switch to PFS2?
If so, where would I find them listed?

Thanks!

Everybody got a certain number of replays based on the number of PFS1 games they'd played at that time approximately a couple of years ago. (I think it was a couple of years ago. Pandemic surreality has completely ruined my sense of time, but it was in summer and it wasn't last year; might have been longer ago.) Unfortunately I have no idea where to find it currently. It was supposed to work on a similar system as the boons when it was fully implemented, so I looked on that page, but wherever it is, it isn't there. I know that I had at that time played between fifty and a hundred scenarios and I got 5 replays.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

As Blake stated, the replays that were listed under organized play area is no longer there. And I have not seen any comments from OP leadership about it.

So right now, I would say there are no replay available other than those earned from Stars.

Dark Archive 4/5

I would find that ruling a bit off putting to say the least.

Scarab Sages 4/5

The blog announcing them and subsequent posts indicating we should manually track them until the boon system supports them (which is likely never at this point) should be plenty enough justification to use them. I’m on my phone, so it’s tough to track all of that stuff down. In the absence of anything telling us we no longer have those replays, I do not think we should assume that they were taken away.

I do remember that the formula was reasoned out to be 5 replays for every full 50 games plus 1 per GM star (in addition to the regular GM star replays). The most you could get from games played was 25, giving a max of 30 (I had 29 as a 4-star). I feel like the calculation was made around April or May of 2019, leading up to the release of 2E.

EDIT: It looks like it was mid to late July that they were added, so right before 2E’s release.

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Ferious Thune wrote:

The blog announcing them and subsequent posts indicating we should manually track them until the boon system supports them (which is likely never at this point) should be plenty enough justification to use them. I’m on my phone, so it’s tough to track all of that stuff down. In the absence of anything telling us we no longer have those replays, I do not think we should assume that they were taken away.

I do remember that the formula was reasoned out to be 5 replays for every full 50 games plus 1 per GM star (in addition to the regular GM star replays). The most you could get from games played was 25, giving a max of 30 (I had 29 as a 4-star). I feel like the calculation was made around April or May of 2019, leading up to the release of 2E.

EDIT: It looks like it was mid to late July that they were added, so right before 2E’s release.

That was the info I needed.

Thanks Ferious!

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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Davor Firetusk wrote:
I would find that ruling a bit off putting to say the least.

The only reason why I say this is because it is no longer on the website. It was once and now it is gone. To me, this implies that they are no longer available.

That said, I don't recall any OP comments other than the what Ferious has shared.

At the end of the day, will it really matter if people use replays to play a 1e adventure again? I don't think so. I will not be auditing that.

Scarab Sages 4/5

Gary Bush wrote:
Davor Firetusk wrote:
I would find that ruling a bit off putting to say the least.

The only reason why I say this is because it is no longer on the website. It was once and now it is gone. To me, this implies that they are no longer available.

That said, I don't recall any OP comments other than the what Ferious has shared.

At the end of the day, will it really matter if people use replays to play a 1e adventure again? I don't think so. I will not be auditing that.

Achievement Points appeared and disappeared from the site a half dozen times and the amounts awarded changed far more than that. It doesn't mean that they were ever taken away. I wouldn't base anything solely on whether or not it appears in that section of the site. It could just as easily be that they abandoned the idea of using the site to manage the replays since it went so long as a manual process, or that they still intend to have the site do that, but removed them until they have time to work on them.

Grand Archive 4/5 ***

Gary Bush wrote:
Davor Firetusk wrote:
I would find that ruling a bit off putting to say the least.

The only reason why I say this is because it is no longer on the website. It was once and now it is gone. To me, this implies that they are no longer available.

That said, I don't recall any OP comments other than the what Ferious has shared.

At the end of the day, will it really matter if people use replays to play a 1e adventure again? I don't think so. I will not be auditing that.

No,

1. If they had been removed intentionally, it would have been announced.
2. They disappeared during one of the code roleouts to fix AcP.
3. Their numbering was never more than approximately accurate to begin with.

I think it is safe to say their removal was accidental.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Jared Thaler - Personal Opinion wrote:
I think it is safe to say their removal was accidental.

With all due respect, I don't agree.

But I have been proven wrong on these boards before, and I honestly hope I am proven wrong again.

Paizo Employee 5/5 Organized Play Associate

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Let me prove you wrong then: we didn't intentionally remove them. To be honest, I dunno where they went for everyone else, because they're still on my page with the rest of my points.

We have filed a ticket with tech to see where they went and how to get them back. In the meantime, continue tracking replays on paper as you were (and likely will continue to do).

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

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If they had been removed intentionally, it would have been announced

There have been enough times when that is not true that I would not bet the farm on it. Though in this specific case, Alex's commentary removes that possibility.

Grand Lodge 4/5 * Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

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Gary Bush wrote:


At the end of the day, will it really matter if people use replays to play a 1e adventure again? I don't think so. I will not be auditing that.

I find this remark disconcerting.

I'll be sure to bring this up to the local VOs in our next meeting this Sunday.

I still play 1e quite regularly thru PbP and am still trying to get my 5th star. The pandemic, not owning a computer, and an essential truck driving job has limited my time and resources to GMing thru PbP.

1e is still doing very well online.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

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I'm confused by your comment. Offended? By Gary allowing people to replay? I don't play 1E anymore, but could if I really needed to and I'm not going to be auditing players/characters either. And I don't understand how that relates to 1E still doing very well online.

Grand Lodge 4/5 * Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

Sorry. I read it as he wouldn't care about the players having a certain amount of replays.
Like, if a player only has 5 replays but they end up replaying scenarios a dozen times or more.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

I’m not suggesting players intentionally violate/ignore the rules, but it is becoming increasingly evident that many GMs still running 1E are becoming less and less concerned with the org play rules. They aren’t doing audits, looking at previous chronicles, verifying access to limited items, replay eligibility, etc. I admit my “evidence” is mostly anecdotal and observational, but from my perspective, the frequency is increasing.

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Alex Speidel wrote:

Let me prove you wrong then: we didn't intentionally remove them. To be honest, I dunno where they went for everyone else, because they're still on my page with the rest of my points.

We have filed a ticket with tech to see where they went and how to get them back. In the meantime, continue tracking replays on paper as you were (and likely will continue to do).

Did anything ever come of this?

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Darrell Impey UK wrote:
Alex Speidel wrote:

Let me prove you wrong then: we didn't intentionally remove them. To be honest, I dunno where they went for everyone else, because they're still on my page with the rest of my points.

We have filed a ticket with tech to see where they went and how to get them back. In the meantime, continue tracking replays on paper as you were (and likely will continue to do).

Did anything ever come of this?

Kicking this tree again....

2/5 5/5 ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Massachusetts—Boston

First edition replays are showing up for me, you might have to Refresh Points if you're not seeing them.

Grand Lodge 4/5 * Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

I refreshed but I'm not seeing where it shows how many replays I have.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

I too are not seeing replays for 1e and I refresh often.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

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I don't bother with replay tracking and would just replay. Its 1E afterall, so what difference does it really make? Though I admit I am not a fan of replaying and no longer play 1E so it doesn't much matter for me anyway.

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