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Hello.
The description Maxim M1910 machine gun says:
"Assuming a user can even lift the weapon, firing a Maxim M1910 machine gun that is not mounted imparts a –4 penalty on attack rolls and the recoil knocks the wielder prone."
At the moment, I have a werebear with a strength of 25. He walks in a hybrid form, and therefore has a large size. And he will still have this penalty and prone?
Well, the rules were likely written thinkign about a medium size character.
However, they give no provisions regarding size or strength.
A medium sized raging barbarian at 40 strength would still take the penalties and be knocked prone according to the rules.
Becoming large sized isn't too complicated as a PC either.
So I can't say increasing size should make a difference.
As written it doesn't matter who tries to wield it, it knocks them down.
Now, if I had to guess this is from Rasputin Must Die. So it's AP specific stuff. And I would guess the writer simply didn't think about the sort of things PC characters could do, and so didn't write any provisions about how to handle it.
That said, it's kind of too powerful if you let the PCs ignore the penalties. So I would probably just run it as written.
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I'd rule that a bear's paws cannot fit in the trigger guard and fire the weapon.
By RAW, you're screwed.
I say screw RAW, though... werebears marching with Maxims is awesome, and definitely overrules RAW. This IS a fantasy game, after all.
Maybe impose a scaling penalty per shot, like attacking whilst using Levitate. Maybe fallll prone if penalty exceeds -5?
I mean, considering people used to carry around and freehand bigger, faster shooting MGs in WW2, it doesn't really make sense why a gun with the round that goes in an AK but fired against the inertia of a gun 20 times it's weight would throw you prone.
While he obviously isn't firing full auto, neither does PF assume you are firing the gun full auto, and this guy isn't knocked prone, and I wouldn't say this guy is anywhere above a 13 in STR.
RAW says no, rule of cool and common sense say yes. I'd go with the second two.
I'd lose the penalties and add a -2 for wrong size weapon on a size large werebear. YMMV.
I'd lose the penalties and add a -2 for wrong size weapon on a size large werebear. YMMV.
Which size would one have to be so as not to incur the penalty for wrong size?
It is a two-handed weapon so my understanding is that being a creature the size above that of the weapon allows for use one-handed without penalty.
Medium size and using it as designed Agénor. As designed meaning on a bipod at a minimum. A large size creature using a medium size weapon takes a -2 to attacks.
Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can’t make optimum use of a weapon that isn’t properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder.
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Wow, thanks for such a response!
Unfortunately, I forgot to add that the character is a Gunslinger/Spiritualist. His Phantom helps with shooting.
However, showed this discussion to GM, and agreed to keep the penalty, but without prone.
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I'd rule that a bear's paws cannot fit in the trigger guard and fire the weapon.
You don't read carefully. I wrote: "in a hybrid form"
Wow, thanks for such a response!
Unfortunately, I forgot to add that the character is a Gunslinger/Spiritualist. His Phantom helps with shooting.
However, showed this discussion to GM, and agreed to keep the penalty, but without prone.
I personally think it's a fair compromise.
I think your G.M.'s decision was good, having the penalty model the effect of recoil on accuracy and ignoring the prone effect, verisimilitude is maintained without rendering the weapon unusable.