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I really think they should do Casmaron book before Arcadia since we still need that for Avistan and Tian Xia politics(or Garund book for similar reason for northern Garund), buuut they seem to have done lot of hinting about being interested in focusing on Arcadia next sooo... Yeah, what are you looking forward to?
I'm looking forward to learning more about Syrinx :3 I hope they aren't just irrelevant minor threat in Arcadia and are actually pretty threatening to countries around them even if they are just small country or a minor power in bigger politics there. You'd think that mountain top cities with army of flying slaves would be scary instead of just minor problem to deal with.
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The Land of Northern Lakes sounds interesting.
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I'm curious what Degasa/the region just beyond the mountains near Segada is like.
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I really think they should do Casmaron book before Arcadia since we still need that for Avistan and Tian Xia politics(or Garund book for similar reason for northern Garund), buuut they seem to have done lot of hinting about being interested in focusing on Arcadia next sooo... Yeah, what are you looking forward to?
I just want a map with state borders on it.
I really think they should do Casmaron book before Arcadia since we still need that for Avistan and Tian Xia politics(or Garund book for similar reason for northern Garund), buuut they seem to have done lot of hinting about being interested in focusing on Arcadia next sooo... Yeah, what are you looking forward to?
Have they been hinting about doing Arcadia next?
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If there are more types of couatls they haven't mentioned yet, as the Tyrants Grasp books had some other types in the bestiaries. Personally I think they should be a new race/subtype of celestials, as there are like 10 fiend races and only 4 celestial (Archons, Agathions, Azatas, and Angels.)
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Everything, but especially the Land of Northern Lakes and the Razatlani Empire. I’d also love to see more local gods.
Also, what hints? If anything, I’ve seen the opposite; that we need to rehash more of Avistan for 2e first.
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Everything. :)
This! There a bunch of tantalizing hints already, it just sounds cool!
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I can't wait! Literally for all of it. I've been really impressed with the care y'all at paizo have put in to developing new cultures, and taking cool cultural influences for new monsters, and everything.
One thing I'm really looking forward to is seeing what kinds of themes and ambiance we can use from whatever source material comes out. I mean that in like, it's very easy to have a mysterious Pacific Northwest adventure (Varisia), or a spooky Transylvania (Ustalav), or a sprawling Arabian Nights (Casmaron and Katapesh in different ways), Heart of Darkness (some of Mwangi), Pirates (...pirates), LotR (Eye of Dread/Mindspins), Nordic (linnorms and ulfen and winter witches and more), eastern intrigue (Tien) and medieval (most everything else) style adventures BUT. I think Arcadia opens up so much more. Like some American Southwest adventures.
I'd love to see a Thunderbird. Some cliff dwellings. And unreal fantasy innovations with the same flavor.
The way we saw Arodens lore tied in to the continent, the interesting new forms of magic, all hint at such interesting history and a diversity of cultures and styles and adventures!!!
Can you tell I'm very very hyped.
Oh, info on wyrwood culture would be a delight. I love construct ancestries, and them being a big deal locally is so exciting.
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I continue to hold out hope that I'll see a fantasy version of Nahua culture that doesn't assume human sacrifice must be inherently the worst kind of evil all the time, but instead treats it with the respect it deserves as a foundational element of the religion.
But that's almost certainly a pipe dream.
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WhatI continue to hold out hope that I'll see a fantasy version of Nahua culture that doesn't assume human sacrifice must be inherently the worst kind of evil all the time, but instead treats it with the respect it deserves as a foundational element of the religion.
But that's almost certainly a pipe dream.
Something something black legend, something something civilizing mission, something something cultural relativism, something something decolonization of the mind. We should be suspicious of the propaganda conquerors use to justify their conquests.
(By the same token, however, it should probably be mentioned that the Mexica's neighbors didn't much appreciate their towns being raided and their kin kidnapped to sate Huitzilopochtli, who was specifically a Mexica national god and not otherwise widely revered. The empire was proximately brought down by a campaign by enemy, and a revolt by subject, peoples (who indeed were only recently subjugated). Why privilege the Mexica perspective over theirs?).
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More about the Syrinx definitely (in some native cultures, the owl was a figure of foreboding, and it would be neat to play into that).
More about variations on the couatl, perhaps tying it to the uktena of more northern tribal lore, or various other snake/other critter mish-mashes, not just snake/bird, like the traditional feathered serpent/couatl of central america.
More about wildly different cultures, and how they interact with (or don't...) each other, like plains nomads and mound builders and cliff-dwellers and raiders and people who build vast cities and the arctic folk, living a life using wood / plants for exactly nothing.
I've been a champion for Arcadia for awhile. I'd like to learn about a lot of the stuff in the thread we had awhile back brainstorming about Arcadia.
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I recently learned that hummingbirds are only native to the Americas. I would love to see something hummingbird inspired in Arcadia.
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I want to see the analog to the Great Plains, American Deserts, and the peoples that lived there. I was born in New Mexico and lived most of my life in Colorado, so I spent a lot of time around that stuff. It holds a nostalgic place in my heart, I guess.
I want to see the analog to the Great Plains, American Deserts, and the peoples that lived there. I was born in New Mexico and lived most of my life in Colorado, so I spent a lot of time around that stuff. It holds a nostalgic place in my heart, I guess.
Oh, as a Southwest desert rat, yes please!
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Everything? Mainly nations, gods and core races. That's it.
Skinwalkers were one of my favorite races in Pf1, so I'm really hoping to see those soon.
Skinwalkers were one of my favorite races in Pf1, so I'm really hoping to see those soon.
I don’t remember who, but I remember someone on the team saying they really didn’t like them, not least because of the appropriative name.
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I am 100% down for the same ancestry/ heritage, different name. I respect not disrespecting something from a culture. The ancestry would give me the same amount of joy, regardless of name.
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I am 100% down for the same ancestry/ heritage, different name. I respect not disrespecting something from a culture. The ancestry would give me the same amount of joy, regardless of name.
Eberron's "shifters" are very similar.
I am 100% down for the same ancestry/ heritage, different name. I respect not disrespecting something from a culture. The ancestry would give me the same amount of joy, regardless of name.Eberron's "shifters" are very similar.
Shifters, Were-kin, Notasgoodasfullwere-creatures, really anything works, as long its not disrespectful.
Were the Golarion version of skinwalkers disrespectful of Navajo culture skinwalkers? Or what was the problem with the name?
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"Yee naaldlooshii", or skinwalkers, are a part of Navajo folklore that is very tied in to their relationship with their cultural values, as they symbolize several things that are antithetical to said values. They do NOT like non-Navajo talking about this stuff or reducing it to just werewolves with the serial numbers filed off.
It's mostly the name that's the issue.
I've seen Se7en like, 10 years ago, and google indicates he makes a lot of movies about serial killers, so... maybe?
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But I'm still right about the personalities of David Fincher villains-aspect, correct?"Yee naaldlooshii", or skinwalkers, are a part of Navajo folklore that is very tied in to their relationship with their cultural values, as they symbolize several things that are antithetical to said values. They do NOT like non-Navajo talking about this stuff or reducing it to just werewolves with the serial numbers filed off.
It's mostly the name that's the issue.
Yes essentially. As Grankless mentioned they are not an inherently supernatural creature, but rather human magic users who's magic transgresses cultural practices and is largely an inversion of the way that magic is typically used in traditional Navajo belief.
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I continue to hold out hope that I'll see a fantasy version of Nahua culture that doesn't assume human sacrifice must be inherently the worst kind of evil all the time, but instead treats it with the respect it deserves as a foundational element of the religion.
But that's almost certainly a pipe dream.
considering the practices of followers of Urgothoa and Zan Kuthon I don't see human sacrifices as any worse than that. Also are human sacrifices any worse than burning someone at the stake as a witch. The motive for a human sacrifice says a lot about how evil it is. Sacrificing 1 person a year to keep the sun rising not so evil. Sacrificing the leaders of an army you just defeated no worse than having them commit Seppuku. Using your military might to force neighboring cities to tribute 10,000 people for 2 days of human sacrifice is on top of the evil scale.
The real question is how do you do justice to real-life culture in a 32-page fantasy adventure...