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4/5 ****

Nefreet wrote:

I successfully used the one Boon that's available ^_^

Win-win so far!

Do note that it's priced incorrectly.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

What?

4/5 ****

The purchase boons page incorrectly lists Rebuild as costing 0 points.

The chart

shows it to be 20/50+15 depending on character level.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

*facepalm*

Okaaay. Well. That's awkward. Have already played two games and leveled since then =\

The cost being zero, and the description stating because you're "learning a new game", is understandably misleading.

5/5 *****

This assumes that the boon listed there is the same as the one that may arrive once ACP is actually up and running. Given this boon was specifically created to alllow people to try out recently created content I am not necessarily certain that is the case.

4/5 ****

Right, I think the one listed on the boon page is the one mentioned in this blog post. I had forgotten about that one since the timing for it was so out of sync.

A free rebuild using the Boon system.

Note that

Blog wrote:
The window for applying this boon will close on September 19th. Rebuilding will continue to appear on the Achievement Points chart after that date, but it will no longer be a free option.

Nefreet: I will note that you posted in the thread there so I can only imagine you read the blog.

The easiest way to fix your problem seems to be either revert the character to the way it was before or spend your points before you have online access to them by writing it down and fixing the online expenditure later.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

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I can barely remember what I had for dinner last night =\

But I suppose that puts my Lizardfolk a bit more delayed now.

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/5 **

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Um, its obvious that I'm not the only one totally confused by the rebuild.

Paizo really, really has to start communicating its policies in a better way.

Robert - you may well be right. You may also be completely wrong. If people like nefreet and Andrew (who both spend lots of time on these forums) what chance does anybody really have of getting it right?

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

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I'm being used as a barometer!!

5/5 5/55/55/5

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Nefreet wrote:
I'm being used as a barometer!!

Canary in a coalmine

4/5 ****

What does that have to do with your Lizardfolk?

5/5 5/55/55/5

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Robert Hetherington wrote:
What does that have to do with your Lizardfolk?

If he spent points he wasn't supposed to have to retrain something he'll have to wait longer to buy the lizard folk.

1/5 5/5

Pathfinder Lost Omens Subscriber

If the number of points is incorrect on the 'low side' for the boon, then there are going to be less points to spend on other things when the cost is corrected.

4/5 ****

Thanks.

Hopefully it turns out I'm totally wrong and we all just have indefinite access to free unannounced rebuilds.

Edit: Actually, that represents a major shift in PFS policy, so I take back my hopefully.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ***** Venture-Captain, Minnesota

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Nefreet wrote:
I'm being used as a barometer!!

Hear those dice rolling in the distance? It's me failing a will save.

Nefreet's a barometer
Our weathered feathered friend
Me, I'm an odometer
This poem's mileage is at its end.

Thank you. I'll see myself out.

Sovereign Court 4/5 * Organized Play Manager

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We put up the free rebuild to stopgap having the AcP up so folks could rebuild. We kept the rebuild going to allow people to have a chance to move things around. I'm expecting to close the rebuild when 1) AcP goes live or 2) we launch Year 2, whichever comes first.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Bookmarked!

Thank you!

4/5 ****

I uhh shelter corrected.

2/5 5/5 *****

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Looks like another change in how the backend/frontend display ACP information happened in the past two weeks:

1-14 (Lions of Katapesh) reported back in late March shows "1 Pathfinder Society (second edition) GM Credits", the same scenario reported last night shows "6 Pathfinder Society (second edition) GM Credits" Older running of 1-14 still show the "1".

While 1-16/1-17 reported last week show 8 credits, and 1-10 shows 1.

The "6" from 1-14 seems odd -- the other discrepancies seemed reasonable (and require a pretty easily scopable database correction/migration) -- 1-16/1-17 reported the correct ACP for (normal) GM. Older scenarios reported correct gm tables. As we know they have been double using ACP/GM table credit and needed to split those fields out. "6" however is the wrong number for either ACP or gm tables. (6 would be the premium plus player ACP value, but that seems very odd as a mistake on a GM/normal event)

2/5 5/5 *****

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Looks like I caught it mid-bulk update.

All PFS2-GM scenarios show 6 ACP now (not 8)
All PFS2-GM quests show 1 ACP now.
FoP shows 24 ACP and a +3 GM ranking.

PFS2-played scenarios are showing 1 ACP (not 4)

No difference seen between local games and con games and Premier Plus GenCon games. So they're still working on that extra level of complexity.

And the boons page doesn't appear to sum the listed ACPs from the sessions page.

Still not sure where the '6' is coming from for a regular GM scenario. Are they decreasing it from 8 to 6? Or is it a mistake in their bulk update.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

I wouldn't count anything until the announcement comes that they're finished.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

...that being said, today it looks like totals are very close to being accurate.

The only discrepancy I see on my page is 6 AcP for playing in a Quest at a Gameday (which should probably only be either 1 or 2).

But everything else looks nice!

4/5 ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Hagerstown

Just looked over mine a well. Still not doubling the amount of ACP for GMing.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Oh you know I've only GMed at Events so far. My AcP for those is 10. But I haven't yet GMed just regularly.

The game you just reported shows me as receiving 6 AcP. How many does it show for you?

4/5 ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Hagerstown

I may be reading it wrong. It says 4GM in my sessions page. Just to make sure we are on the same page, where are you finding the amount of ACP per game?

EDIT: I just refreshed and my ACP. It went from 54 to 146, which seems more accurate.

2/5 5/5 *****

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Most of my GM'd sessions shows "# Pathfinder Society (second edition) GM Credits", while most played session show "# Achievement Points - PFS(2ed)" But its not 100% correspondence (GM'd module shows AcP, this week GM'd scenario shows ACP, all previous ones are still wrong) for instance.

Summing up all the AcP entries, matches the number shown on the Boon page.

So it looks like there is still something that's crossing the streams between 'GM credit' (aka table count towards Glyphs) and AcP. So they're getting closer, and seem to have a working procedure for bulk fixing things, they just need to keep tweaking a few things.

I think I should have 601 AcP, but the boons page only shows 48. :)

4/5 ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Hagerstown

I finally found where they list the points on the sessions page.

The game I'd just reported for Outpost shows 10. Which is correct if it was a premier event.

The standard quests that I have ran are only granting 1 ACP, should have been 2 each.

The standard scenarios I've ran are granting 6 ACP per instead of 8.

All of the games I have played in appear to be accurate. 1's and 4's per.

Sovereign Court ***

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

So did the playtest points get rolled over into the AcP? And are the PtP boons no longer available?

Scarab Sages 3/5 5/55/55/5 ***** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Bellevue

Benjamin Debrick wrote:
So did the playtest points get rolled over into the AcP? And are the PtP boons no longer available?

I know they posted a PDF of what the Playtest Boons were supposed to be, but that PDF had the word "SAMPLE" watermarked on them. I, like many others, waited to spend Playtest Points to be able to get a printable PDF for my character that didn't have that stamp. I'm hoping that when they get printable PDFs to work for ACP, that they'll restore the same for those Playtest Points.

Grand Lodge 5/5 *

Did they say if Adventures will grant any amount of AcP? I read somewhere that they expected to see x3 for running or playing, but I'm not sure. And it's definitely not reflected in my current AcP (which I know is still very under construction.)

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

The base amount of AcP you earn as a player is equal to the amount of XP your character earned.

This amount is doubled if you instead GMed, and/or multiplied depending on the venue you were involved in.

For example playing a Society scenario at home earns you 4 AcP, playing at your local Convention earns you 6 AcP, GMing at home earns you 8 AcP, GMing at your local Convention earns you 10 AcP, and doing either at a "premium" event like PaizoCon earns you even more.

2/5 5/5 **

Minor correction: playing at local convention gets you 5.

Play Scenario = 4, 5, 6
GM = 8, 10, 12

Sovereign Court ***

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
John Brinkman wrote:
Benjamin Debrick wrote:
So did the playtest points get rolled over into the AcP? And are the PtP boons no longer available?
I know they posted a PDF of what the Playtest Boons were supposed to be, but that PDF had the word "SAMPLE" watermarked on them. I, like many others, waited to spend Playtest Points to be able to get a printable PDF for my character that didn't have that stamp. I'm hoping that when they get printable PDFs to work for ACP, that they'll restore the same for those Playtest Points.

I knew there was a reason I had not used my PtP and forgot what it was. That "sample" watermark is what held me back.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Blake's Tiger wrote:

Minor correction: playing at local convention gets you 5.

Play Scenario = 4, 5, 6
GM = 8, 10, 12

All of mine show 6, although I suppose that could be a system error.

Was 5 confirmed somewhere?

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Nefreet wrote:
Blake's Tiger wrote:

Minor correction: playing at local convention gets you 5.

Play Scenario = 4, 5, 6
GM = 8, 10, 12

All of mine show 6, although I suppose that could be a system error.

Was 5 confirmed somewhere?

Yes in the Guide.

http://www.organizedplayfoundation.org/encyclopedia/pathfinder-2-0-organize d-play-basics/

Grand Lodge 5/5 *

Sorry, I said Adventures. I understand how PFS scenarios work for AcP. I meant for things like Plaguestone. :)

2/5 5/5 **

AcP = XP gained if played, 2 * XP if GMed, modified based on venue (normal, premier, premier plus)

This applies to all content sanctioned for PFS(2).

Grand Lodge 5/5 *

Gotcha. I've seen a few people post now that their current AcP counts are a lot closer to what they should be, while mine are still way off (I show 22 AcP when I should have 77, for example.) I was wondering if my understanding how AcP was calculated was wrong when it came to Adventures, but I'm happy to hear I was correct. Thanks!

I'll just continue to wait patiently like everyone else.

Dark Archive 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Agent, Australia—QLD—Brisbane

Blake's Tiger wrote:

AcP = XP gained if played, 2 * XP if GMed, modified based on venue (normal, premier, premier plus)

This applies to all content sanctioned for PFS(2).

That assertion does not appear in the guide - do you have a source for it? In fact, the guide mentions nothing but Quests and Scenarios.

2/5 5/5 **

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Yes, I have a source for it.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Thank you. I've been remembering that quote for a while now but couldn't track it down.

1/5 * RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16

Blake's Tiger wrote:
Yes, I have a source for it.

Doesn't match how much I earned at all.

I earned:
8 for the games I played at Gen Con
4 for playing a game at an online convention
6 for all others, including games I ran

Also, how do playtest points count for all this?

4/5 5/55/5 ****

Cyrad wrote:

Doesn't match how much I earned at all.

Also, how do playtest points count for all this?

Play test points are a separate pool that will be spendable again when the AcP system is sorted out.

The currently shown numbers are still being processed. Depending on your games 1/4 to 1/2 are actually accurate now, the rest still need a few things in the database to be fixed.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Cyrad wrote:
Blake's Tiger wrote:
Yes, I have a source for it.
Doesn't match how much I earned at all.

Pssst. They're not done yet.

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