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Guys we are literally talking about something that takes minutes for a game day.
Granted for conventions it takes longer, sometimes much longer due to size. But for game days we are talking minutes not something that is terribly burdensome or takes hours or days.
I am not understanding how this is an issue.
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Guys we are literally talking about something that takes minutes for a game day.
Granted for conventions it takes longer, sometimes much longer due to size. But for game days we are talking minutes not something that is terribly burdensome or takes hours or days.
I am not understanding how this is an issue.
It's not an issue for you. It is an issue for others. You really don't have to understand that. It's a fact.
Given the number of unreported games its obvious that it is an issue for a fair few (I'm not even going to try and guess percentages).
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What exactly are the steps for reporting?
My previous statement was pointing out (and failing, I have a weakness for being succinct a lot) the oddity of separating jobs and the PFS volunteer work. Yes the latter is something you do out of passion and fun but it is still work, don't undersell those putting in the effort as not-job/not-work because it's volunteered.
By that same measure, as pauljathome predicted, it is still work and responsibility, and thus my new query up there.
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If it's too hard to report a game session online, then that's just too bad for those people. They miss out on AcP. Report them. It's not hard at all. If they want the AcP they will report them.
Basically at this point for there not to be reporting, the players and GM would all need to not care, at that point I would argue they are not really playing PFS anymore.
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If it's too hard to report a game session online, then that's just too bad for those people. They miss out on AcP. Report them. It's not hard at all. If they want the AcP they will report them.Basically at this point for there not to be reporting, the players and GM would all need to not care, at that point I would argue they are not really playing PFS anymore.
Or they don’t find it fun to hound their friends about reporting something just so that they can get a boon faster.
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When I first began to play AD&D in 1979 we wished we had something like PFS. When I ran into Pathfinder Society I instantly fell in love with the universal aspect of the campaign. This is what I wanted back in 1979. Today, I've got the Internet to pull me closer to the people who play Society. I love that.
Is it work? Do I do this for nothing? If so, then I've been playing games since 1979 when I should have invested my time in something else. I think I've spent the last 41 years doing what I wanted to do. When others prevented me from doing this, I got quite irate with them.
I volunteer my time because I believe in something greater than myself. I participate in this universal campaign because I enjoy doing so. Work? I get paid for that. This isn't work. This is doing what I love to do. Reporting scenarios is not work. It's just part of what I do.
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Or they don’t find it fun to hound their friends about reporting something just so that they can get a boon faster.Faster does not matter if the players don't care, but if they want the AcP at some point and the person does not report it, they will need to bug them or go higher.
Except you'll earn the ACPs eventually. Say a convention isn't reported (my current situation). I could pester my VO about it to try to get it done (or done faster). I could report the VO to my RVC and let him pester the VO. Which is likely to cause at least some hurt feelings. Is it really worth it? Or do I just wait a few months longer (edit: until I've earned the points I need from other games). If I've reminded someone once or twice, and they still haven't reported the game, then they probably have a reason why. Just because I'm not willing to report them to the RVC to try to get the game reported doesn't mean I don't care about PFS or am not playing it anymore. Seriously, there are more important things than getting a few ACPs. We haven't had a VC for years now because of the increasing expectations on what a volunteer should be doing. I'm pretty sure if a bunch of players start pestering the VOs about games being reported faster, we won't have any VOs left at all, and PFS will just die off in the area.
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If it's too hard to report a game session online, then that's just too bad for those people. They miss out on AcP. Report them. It's not hard at all. If they want the AcP they will report them.
That's an awesome way to end up with no volunteers!
There's so much entitlement in this thread. The idea that (paraphrasing here) "you need to report fast because you're a volunteer/VO/GM and it's your job" or "it's easy for ME so why isn't it for YOU" demonstrates a disheartening lack of empathy for the time/effort of volunteers.
As a player… know what I did when reporting lagged in my area? I asked the VO in private if they needed help, and got a stack of sign-ins, and did the reporting myself. I didn't complain, or report them, or pester them. I stood up and offered to help and showed some empathy. Because reporting stinks for some people. It's not fun, and it takes time out of an adult's life with friends/family/work — whatever they have outside gaming (which is no one's business, either).
Please don't treat volunteers like they owe you ANYTHING. They don't — especially when they likely aren't even officially acknowledged by Paizo for their efforts. If reporting takes too long, offer to help instead of reporting them or trying to punish them. Or, consider saying nothing. Acting entitled, pestering, or punishing volunteers will kill pfs. There's already so little incentive to become a VA, until they sort out NDAs.
Conversely, cooperation and empathy will help PFS thrive.
Edit: in our area, we have VOs report. It doesn't really save time; instead of chasing down a bunch of GMs you have one person with a stack of paperwork and it's easy to fall behind if you're not vigilant.
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It is in the description job of the VO to make sure games are reported. They take on that responsibility when they become a VO, they have agreed to it.
They agreed to organize games, because no one else in the area had the time or the desire to do it. If they stop organizing games, no one else in the area will do it. If someone else steps up, my guess is the current VO would step aside. That hasn't happened for the last 3 years, so I'm not counting on it happening anytime soon. Would I rather someone be organizing games, even if the occasional one doesn't get reported? Absolutely.
(Before you ask, I was organizing games in a different city. I live near two areas. We've had a VO join in the city where I was organizing thanks to PFS 2E after not having one at all for about 2 years. I never bothered to apply, because NDAs weren't going out anyway, and I didn't want to deal with the types of things people are saying in this thread. I still organize games when I can for our few remaining PFS1 players, and I report those games, but I'm not about to start doing it in a second city because we force the one person willing to step up and manage the game days out by insisting they do things on our timeline).
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I am not saying anything about fast... I am just saying as a VO it is your responsibility to make sure it is getting done... If it takes some work and time that is fine.
Edit: I think you guys are confusing on my message here..
I personally have a time period I ask someone what is going on why something is not being reported. But it is some time.. I don't bug them the next day.. For Game Days I will wait until the next game day and ask if there is a problem and if I can help. For conventions I generally wait a month to find out what is going on, most of the time there was a clerical error, sometimes it has not been done yet so I wait longer. I have never had to go past that point yet, but if I had to I would ask for an update after some times has passed.
Edit: Also you were not replying to me... :)
And this gets to the point others tried to make in this thread. Now that things are tied to the ACP system, there actually is an impact to the players if someone takes a month to report a game. It means players potentially have to wait to get access to a boon they want. So there are a few choices. Either, as many seem to be suggesting, that player starts bothering whoever is failing to report the game until they do report it, and escalates to the VC/RVC/whoever if it doesn't happen, or they just don't get access to the boon until they earn enough points elsewhere, or maybe we try to account for the fact that people have lives when we put the system together by allowing points to go into a deficit of a small amount.
What is the harm in letting someone go to -4 or -8 or even -12 ACPs?
If you don't mind not getting a game reported, I don't mind that. But at the same time you can't complain about a system that requires it, well because you don't care if it does not get reported.
How can you complain about something you don't care about?
I didn't say I don't care about it. I want to (eventually) get my boons just like anybody else. But I care more about my friendships with the people who organize the games than I do about the boons. The system doesn't have to create a situation where a personal relationship has to be tested in order to get a reward that's been earned.
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Asking for an update on something being reported should not strain a friendship.
asking to go a bit negative may be a reasonable request, as you wait for something to get reported, not my call though.
This is a little bit more than asking for an update:
Player - remind your GMs/Organizers obsessively to report the games! I mean really bug them, do it every day if you have to. I have had a few game reported wrong and this seemed to work for me, be annoying about it! My reported games are 100% accurate over 12 years in PFS play. Know who to complain to, I can't emphasis how important this is. If you have a game day find out who is responsible for reporting the game and their contact info. If you go to a convention ask the Organizer staff who is responsible for reporting the game and their contact info to fix any problems if they show up.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to do that to a friend over a game.
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You have a point there I went a little extreme. In practice I wait until the next game day for game days to ask for an update and a month for conventions.
The only time I went further then that was with paizo when they were responsible for reporting PaizoCon and after 4 months it still was not getting reported so i asked a bit more. Once a got a reasonable reply with a reasonable answer I waited and in 2 weeks it got reported.
Edit; the rest of that post a good advice, you need to know who to ask if something does not get reported.
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You have a point there I went a little extreme. In practice I wait until the next game day for game days to ask for an update and a month for conventions.
The only time I went further then that was with paizo when they were responsible for reporting PaizoCon and after 4 months it still was not getting reported so i asked a bit more. Once a got a reasonable reply with a reasonable answer I waited and in 2 weeks it got reported.
Thank you for acknowledging that. And, as I said, I'll ask once or twice, usually like you say at the next game day and then after a decent amount of time has passed. Beyond that, if they haven't reported it, there's probably a reason, and if they haven't shared that reason with me, I'm not going to press them on it. (When I have in the past, it's been out of a concern for other players, like when the one time replays were calculated. I made sure anything I'd GMed and handed over for reporting got reported so others didn't miss out on replays).
I have, as Doug suggested, offered in the past to help report things. But sometimes when someone is overwhelmed by life to the point that they can't report a game, tracking down the paperwork and getting it to someone else to report is just as difficult to do. It's almost certainly a matter of things in their life outside of PFS. Maybe if someone gets to that point, they should step away for a while and let someone else handle PFS. In the case of my local areas, we've pretty much been down to the last people willing to organize games for years. I didn't really have the time to do it when I was more actively doing it, but I did it anyway, because I wanted to see PFS continue in the area. If someone hadn't stepped up to take over PFS2, it probably wouldn't have happened, because I definitely didn't have the time or energy to promote an entirely new system.
The sentiment that people "knew what they were signing up for" only goes so far. When the VO became a VO, we had a VC, multiple VLs in the state, and multiple VAs. Increased demands on VO time leading to people stepping down combined with people moving away left us with a single active VO in the state for the better part of 2 years. Different areas have different situations, and complaining until the VO does their job just isn't the answer everywhere.
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Edit; the rest of that post a good advice, you need to know who to ask if something does not get reported.
That I can agree with. I didn't want to quote only part of that section.. Though hopefully if you do approach someone higher up, it's from a standpoint of wanting to help, and not complaining that someone isn't doing their job as a VO. Because seriously, it's not a job (and if it were, it would be one they're getting about $12 a month to do in equivalent scenario value).
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Another part of that post was paizo needing to give VC’s or RVCs the ability to fix non reporting in some way as a last resort if a game can’t be reported for some reason.
I agree that would be good, but I'm afraid that the privacy issues of the past combined with the time that it takes to make any change to the technology behind the site might make that a non-starter.
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Some kind of method to get AcP for a game you can prove you played is needed.
Yes. That does seem to be what people have been asking for. Whether it's a technology solution, an access solution for VCs/RVCs, or a paperwork solution, since AcPs are going to be tied to boons, there needs to be some way to make sure you can use the ones you've earned that doesn't involve encouraging confrontations between players and the people reporting the games.
I'm personally leaning towards let someone go negative by a small amount as my preferred option. If that can be built into the system while they are working on it now, that would be great. Whatever that number is (say 12 to account for multiple games at a con that take a while to report, and because that's what whoever suggested this originally offered). And once someone is negative, by whatever amount, they can't purchase boons until they are positive again. Something like that, anyway. Apologies to whoever made the original suggestion. It's late, and I don't want to scroll back through the thread yet again.
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If it's too hard to report a game session online, then that's just too bad for those people. They miss out on AcP. Report them. It's not hard at all. If they want the AcP they will report them.That's an awesome way to end up with no volunteers!
There's so much entitlement in this thread. The idea that (paraphrasing here) "you need to report fast because you're a volunteer/VO/GM and it's your job" or "it's easy for ME so why isn't it for YOU" demonstrates a disheartening lack of empathy for the time/effort of volunteers.
As a player… know what I did when reporting lagged in my area? I asked the VO in private if they needed help, and got a stack of sign-ins, and did the reporting myself. I didn't complain, or report them, or pester them. I stood up and offered to help and showed some empathy. Because reporting stinks for some people. It's not fun, and it takes time out of an adult's life with friends/family/work — whatever they have outside gaming (which is no one's business, either).
Please don't treat volunteers like they owe you ANYTHING. They don't — especially when they likely aren't even officially acknowledged by Paizo for their efforts. If reporting takes too long, offer to help instead of reporting them or trying to punish them. Or, consider saying nothing. Acting entitled, pestering, or punishing volunteers will kill pfs. There's already so little incentive to become a VA, until they sort out NDAs.
Conversely, cooperation and empathy will help PFS thrive.
Edit: in our area, we have VOs report. It doesn't really save time; instead of chasing down a bunch of GMs you have one person with a stack of paperwork and it's easy to fall behind if you're not vigilant.
If you took the time to read through the thread, I suggested the delegation of authority. I've been a VO for over 1.5 years. I did so because I wanted to grow Org Play in my area. I don't expect anything from Paizo in return. It is nice to get some bennies, but I don't expect anything from them.
I am in favor of the AcP program being maintained online. There is no excuse for not reporting games online, absolutely none. Anyone can report them, not just the GM. By delegating the authority, everyone can become invested in the Society.
Why do people become VOs? I did it for the love of the universal campaign concept. I organized local play for a year before I volunteered to become a VO. I'm not in it for anything other than helping people play the game. I get more rewards for being a GM via the AcP than anything else. If you want to revamp the VO program, then I suggest we do that in the VO forums on Discord. Right now, I just want to help make the AcP work.
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Some kind of method to get AcP for a game you can prove you played is needed.
If players take a picture of the reporting sheet, then there's a record. After a certain amount of time passes without the game being reported, then the players could report the game themselves on Paizo.
We could have a special reporting # for each region for this. That way if there are any problems coming from it, such as a game being reported more than once, we have the problem sessions in the same location.
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If you wanted to speed up reporting....
Is it possible to copy/paste special into a website like it is from one spreadsheet into another spreadsheet ? Copy/ paste an entire line or better yet, a box of text off of google sheets into a website would be a LOT faster and more accurate than manually entering it.
Yes, this could be done but having worked with uploading data from a spreadsheet into the an online database, it is technically difficult and would require a much greater level of support from IT than we have now.
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These achievement points would be awesome if I wasn't sitting here with an entire con not showing up as reported.How long have you been waiting? Do you know who was supposed to do the reporting? Do you know who their VO is?
Well the con was SNAFUCON and it was November 15-17 and it is our VC that does the reporting and its like 70 or 80 points worth of Achievement Points.
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Well the con was SNAFUCON and it was November 15-17 and it is our VC that does the reporting and its like 70 or 80 points worth of Achievement Points.These achievement points would be awesome if I wasn't sitting here with an entire con not showing up as reported.How long have you been waiting? Do you know who was supposed to do the reporting? Do you know who their VO is?
*opens mouth*
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If it's too hard to report a game session online, then that's just too bad for those people. They miss out on AcP. Report them. It's not hard at all. If they want the AcP they will report them.That's an awesome way to end up with no volunteers!
There's so much entitlement in this thread. The idea that (paraphrasing here) "you need to report fast because you're a volunteer/VO/GM and it's your job" or "it's easy for ME so why isn't it for YOU" demonstrates a disheartening lack of empathy for the time/effort of volunteers.
As a player… know what I did when reporting lagged in my area? I asked the VO in private if they needed help, and got a stack of sign-ins, and did the reporting myself. I didn't complain, or report them, or pester them. I stood up and offered to help and showed some empathy. Because reporting stinks for some people. It's not fun, and it takes time out of an adult's life with friends/family/work — whatever they have outside gaming (which is no one's business, either).
Please don't treat volunteers like they owe you ANYTHING. They don't — especially when they likely aren't even officially acknowledged by Paizo for their efforts. If reporting takes too long, offer to help instead of reporting them or trying to punish them. Or, consider saying nothing. Acting entitled, pestering, or punishing volunteers will kill pfs. There's already so little incentive to become a VA, until they sort out NDAs.
Conversely, cooperation and empathy will help PFS thrive.
Edit: in our area, we have VOs report. It doesn't really save time; instead of chasing down a bunch of GMs you have one person with a stack of paperwork and it's easy to fall behind if you're not vigilant.
If you took the time to read through the thread, I suggested the delegation of authority. I've been a VO for over 1.5 years. I did so because I wanted to grow Org Play in my area. I don't expect anything from Paizo in return. It is nice to get some bennies, but I don't expect anything from them.
I am in favor of the AcP program being maintained online. There is no excuse for not reporting games online, absolutely none. Anyone can report them, not just the GM. By delegating the authority, everyone can become invested in the Society.
Why do people become VOs? I did it for the love of the universal campaign concept. I organized local play for a year before I volunteered to become a VO. I'm not in it for anything other than helping people play the game. I get more rewards for being a GM via the AcP than anything else. If you want to revamp the VO program, then I suggest we do that in the VO forums on Discord. Right now, I just want to help make the AcP work.
I read the thread. Like you, I tend to be very altruistic about making organized play happen!
However, I believe we're in the minority. It would be a lot easier to delegate if more people had reason to step up — but like any volunteer force, things can get stretched thin.
Thing is, everyone's different. People become VOs for different reasons. They volunteer to GM for different reasons. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that most adults are at least partially motivated (and stay motivated) by things other than altruism — such as recognition on the forums, free downloads, spending time with friends they've made over the years, thank-you's, etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but the fact Paizo can't seem to offer recognition or downloads to new VOs removes some of that motivation and makes it a harder "sell" for me, as a VL.
More than anything, simple recognition of hard work is probably the most common and powerful motivator; forum tags are a core part of that. It can help people feel a sense of recognition and pride, and motivate them to face tasks they might not otherwise want to spend their free time doing (such as reporting games).
If you want reporting done quicker on the local level, try thanking VO for their hard work before asking them to speed reporting — because most likely very few people put in the effort to simply recognize their efforts.
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Honestly if you get free PDFs of everything Like a Venture Captain you should 100% report on time.
On Time is not really a something that can be fully controlled, not even sure what the definition of on time is...
As a VO We are responsible to make sure everything is reported, but that may take sometime depending on the situation.
On your Convention you attended not being reported, Have you asked for an update and gotten answer?
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Honestly if you get free PDFs of everything Like a Venture Captain you should 100% report on time.
A significant number of people organizing games or GMing do NOT get free PDFs for free.
AS Doug has pointed out numerous time on this thread.
I get the impression some of the "do more work" crowd seem to think we all get them for free. I'm not even sure who gets free stuff. I know I gotta pay. For people like me, its like "buy the scenarios, and buy maps (or draw maps on the maps you own), buy minis, oh and also report on this stuff right away (and then still get complaints about others who don't report)".
It's a hobby I'm already paying for. All this extra stuff just seems to bog down my experience for something that no one has seen yet and in all likelihood a lot of GMs will get minimal use out of. Heck, if I could buy boons with my AcP and assign them to other players I would. My spouse hasn't had much time to play, would love to play a Leshy, and likely won't in PFS with the proposed rotation. I'd be much happier if I could give my stuff to the community (or partner) rather than have to hear complaints about something I'm gonna stockpile and rarely use.
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Well the con was SNAFUCON and it was November 15-17 and it is our VC that does the reporting and its like 70 or 80 points worth of Achievement Points.These achievement points would be awesome if I wasn't sitting here with an entire con not showing up as reported.How long have you been waiting? Do you know who was supposed to do the reporting? Do you know who their VO is?
So have you reached out to the VC? There could be other problems. It is possible that a mistake was made when writing down the PFS number. Or when entering the number. Maybe the number could not be read. Trust me, there are some people who are going fast and don't write clearly. (Not trying to say that you are someone who does that.)
If you have not reached out to your VC, you need to. You can't simply sit on your hands and complain if you have not reached out. Having a picture of the reporting sheet is very helpful. All GMs should allow players to take pictures of the reporting sheet.
The next step on this, after you have contacted the VC about reporting and working with them to get it cleared up, is the RVC for your region. Airing this on the boards, now, needs to stop until you can work the entire process up the chain.
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I only ask him ever time I see him which is usually once a week.
Why would a player take a picture of the reporting sheet?
Also I pointed out that there might have been technical difficulties, I have experienced games being reported but not showing up on the player side when it is on the Organizer side or even the VO side.
And lastly I specifically pointed out VC as getting free things not everyone. I am well aware most people don't get things for free.
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And lastly I specifically pointed out VC as getting free things not everyone. I am well aware most people don't get things for free.
You also seem to think that a VC gets PDFs as some kind of 'reward'.
It's nothing of the kind. A VC is supposed to be the local arbitrator when there are problems that can't be handled at the game store level.In order to be able to fulfil that role a VC needs access to all the relevant rules. That means rules for *all* the systems, even if they are for systems that VC doesn't play. And it means access to every single book that contains additional resources that are sanctioned for use in organized play.
There's no way Paizo can require a VC to purchase that material. The choice is either to provide free access to everything, or to shift the arbitration process one level further up the tree (which, at the time the decision was originally made, meant up to a Paizo employee).
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I only ask him ever time I see him which is usually once a week.
Why would a player take a picture of the reporting sheet?
Also I pointed out that there might have been technical difficulties, I have experienced games being reported but not showing up on the player side when it is on the Organizer side or even the VO side.
And lastly I specifically pointed out VC as getting free things not everyone. I am well aware most people don't get things for free.
Ok and what does he say? At this point it may be time to contact your RVC.
Taking a picture helps if the original paper sheet is lost. It is huge. If I had not taken pictures of the reporting sheets at Gen Con i would have lost 4 tables worth of GMing 2e tables! But I had the pictures so it was easily resolved. And my players got their credit.
If a table is not showing up on player side it could be the adventure was reported with wrong PFS number. Or the player has not registered the character number. Or the PFS number has not been activated. Or the adventure is recorded to the wrong character number.
There is a problem but it can be fixed.
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GMs routinely take pictures of the reporting sheets now. I think the question was around you saying that players should be taking pictures of the reporting sheet. That would be something new. Also, I don’t know if it’s a privacy concern or not. Online, at least, the information that would be on the reporting sheet is routinely visible in the signup spreadsheets, but I can think of reasonable situations where someone might not want every random player at the table knowing their PFS # (or specific players in the event of harassment), and often times for a new player they might write their email on the sheet to be able to be contacted about future games.
But I guess the bigger question is if the player already has the chronicle sheet to prove they played in the game, why do they also need the signup sheet? Why can’t they just show their chronicle to qualify for the AcPs?
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If I might suggest an idea. What if the reporting sheets were redesigned to be electronic friendly?
https://www.zipgrade.com/
Let's anybody with a smart phone or ipad printout basically a scantron form no expensive equipment required. the guy who runs that site basically developed this on the side. A partnership could be a nice beneficial way to remove some barriers.
Good find!
I have wanted to set up a simple webform that writes to a google sheet, and link it with a QR code that populates specific event details for sign-ins. Just need time between work, family, personal projects, and GMing 2-3 times a week :)
I already keep a separate spreadsheet of all events and sign-ins so I can quickly reference notes and track basic data on what was played/mustered over the years. Automation would sure be nice.
But I guess the bigger question is if the player already has the chronicle sheet to prove they played in the game, why do they also need the signup sheet? Why can’t they just show their chronicle to qualify for the AcPs?
It seems like the answer is "because we have to design systems and communities against the lowest common denominator, even if it hurts our GMs and volunteer base."
Personally, I am advocating for a paper-based system that requires either chronicles or reported games. But it seems like we're too worried about a small percentage of toxic players to allow for that.
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GMs routinely take pictures of the reporting sheets now. I think the question was around you saying that players Also, I don’t know if it’s a privacy concern or not.
Given the slot for "player name" on the sheet, I'd probably have some issues. I wouldn't want someone taking a picture of my sign in sheet to pass it around and expose my players to potential harassment. Personally, there's a funny story about a former player trying to stab me at a con. I'd rather no one show them a sheet with my name on it. If someone wanted to take a picture, I'd be ok if they asked before I hand out sign in sheet out to black out name section. Once there's names on it, I'd find it a privacy concern.
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Taking photos of the GM's sign in sheet as a player at GenCon was the only way me and the rest of my table got credit for a couple tables.
Player safety, comfort, and privacy are FAR more important than the potential issue of lost sign-in sheets. If you insist on doing this, get consent from everyone before photographing their info, make sure it isn’t against the event rules, and respect it if they say "no."
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Since 2e started I have taken a picture of every sign-in sheet I have turned over to somebody else, whether GM or Player. How else I am supposed to ensure my AcP when it's reliant on reporting?
Fortunately they have all been successfully reported.
I mean, just asking for consent isn’t a big deal. It’s not something I would have thought to be an issue but from reading this thread, it looks like it is to some people. Context probably matters too; i.e. a big convention versus local games with the same group.
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So, just saying... You're at a public venue where you pass the sign in sheet around the table to be ultimately collected by a stranger at a con and given to another stranger at the con or, locally, given to one of your fellow players.
In all cases, you should ask everyone if they're okay with it. My guess is that in most cases people will be fine with it. In the set of cases where someone isn't, there's probably a good reason and you should respect their privacy.