Yqatuba |
So, I posted something like this a long time ago but since people get mad when you bump old threads I thought I'd make a new one: if you make a Pathfinder version of a character from another work what would the be like? Doesn't have to be a whole statblock just alignment and classes. A couple I thought are:
The Joker: CE Antipaladin/assassin/rogue (I figure one of his cruelties would be disease and he would always give people cackle fever)
James Bond: LN Slayer/Gunslinger.(maybe some rogue as well)
Heather 540 |
I've made two Pathfinder characters based on comic characters before.
The Hulk is Neutral Good and the classes are Alchemist, Barbarian, and Master Chymist.
Captain Cold from DC Comics is True Neutral. The classes are Gun Chemist, Trench Fighter, Musketeer Cavalier, and Phantom Thief Rogue.
I wanted to make the Flash and Spider-Man, but I got stuck both times. Both would probably be Lawful Good.
BENSLAYER |
A quick jotting of ideas below :
* Will = Kineticist:Aether x/Vigilante(Warlock) 8, with Electricity Mystic Bolts, plus Warlock Talents Elemental Armour:Electricity and Social Simulacrum (Sp).
* Irma = Kineticist:Water/Vigilante(Warlock) 8, with Cold Mystic Bolts, plus Warlock Talent Social Simulacrum (Sp).
* Taranee = Kineticist:Fire/Vigilante(Warlock) 8, plus Warlock Talents Elemental Armour:Fire and Social Simulacrum (Sp).
* Cornelia = Kineticist:Wood/Earth(/Aether) x, with the Wild Talent:Universal Mobile Blast.
* Hay-Lin = Kineticst:Air x.
Their Vigilante:Warlock "Spellbook" would be the (Artifact) Heart of Kandrakar, for which their connection counts as "being in possession of". All would be able to reach a Kineticist Level granting them Kinetic Form to embody their Element.
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Cardcaptor Sakura
* Sakura = Vigilante(Magical Child).
* Syaoran = Vigilante(Warlock).
* Tomoyo = Expert x/Bard x.
* Yue/Yukito = Vigilante(Splintersoul).
* Touya = Psychic?
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Power Rangers
* All = Alchemist(Construct Rider)/Vigilante.
Temperans |
Metal Wizard/Earth Kineticist for magnetisn and magnetic blast. Aether also works if you flavor it as can only pick up metal (it does remove the earth control abilities)
Yss that would give him some control over earth and soil. But it ensures he has all day access to his magnetic powers, leaving him with plenty of uses of spells even if they are lower level. In either case he is probably lv 20 or higher given his op nature.
avr |
How about:
Dumbledore: CG level 20 wizard
Voldemort CE level 18 wizard lich
Pathfinder's system implies rather more personal magic power, and often less power at manipulating the world generally than fiction including the Harry Potter series. See: 'Gandalf was a 5th level wizard' for another example.
Yqatuba |
Yqatuba wrote:Pathfinder's system implies rather more personal magic power, and often less power at manipulating the world generally than fiction including the Harry Potter series. See: 'Gandalf was a 5th level wizard' for another example.How about:
Dumbledore: CG level 20 wizard
Voldemort CE level 18 wizard lich
Well, Voldemort can cast Avada Kedavra, which seems equal to at least Finger Of Death (or even Power Word Kill, as it's supposedly impossible to resist.) That would make him at least level 13
Heather 540 |
Without a relative power advantage to back it up Avada Kedavra isn't going to kill, or so it was described to the wizard students. It might be as well represented by enervation.
Also; HP wizards are more like PF sorcerers. They don't prepare spells.
Would Parseltongue be a bloodline power?
Chell Raighn |
Without a relative power advantage to back it up Avada Kedavra isn't going to kill, or so it was described to the wizard students. It might be as well represented by enervation.
Also; HP wizards are more like PF sorcerers. They don't prepare spells.
Specifically Arcane Bloodline Sorcerers with Wands as their Arcane Bond... gotta have that wand out to cast a spell properly, at least without great difficulty... though Blood Arcanist would also fit, given that they do technically learn their spells from spell books... they just rarely, if ever, reference them again after learning them...
Slyme |
Not a fictional character, but I built Eric "Butterbean" Esch the other day as a Brawler to kill some time.
Someone above mentioned Spider-Man...the Arachnid Wildsoul Vigilante was specifically designed to be able to mimic him.
Gambit could be an Aether Kineticist / Unchained Rogue gestalt.
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Here is an interesting one...how would you guys build Aloy from the video game Horizon: Zero Dawn?
She would need to be a competent switch hitter who can use a composite longbow, as well as her "spear" which looks more like a glaive or some other short polearm.
Slyme |
To go with Harley...Poison Ivy would definitely be a Toxicologist Druid.
More Batman rogues gallery
Scarecrow - Vivisectionist Alchemist
Bane - Mutagenic Mauler Brawler
Killer Croc - Lizardfolk Barbarian
Catwoman - Unchained Rogue
Ras Al Ghul - Arcane Trickster maybe?
Deadshot - Sniper Slayer
Mr. Freeze - Ice Chemist Alchemist/Spellslinger Wizard
Riddler - Investigator
Penguin - Cabalist Vigilante
Joker would be an interesting one, I'd probably go with Investigator...combines aspects of several classes, which I think synergizes well with the complexity of Joker. Maybe gestalt with a...Barbarian of all things, to give him his maniacal strength and temper control issues.
Batman himself would be an Investigator/Vigilante gestalt
Yqatuba |
I actually did suggest the Joker as an antipaladin/assassin, although I guess investigator works better as he certainly has some alchemy skills. Also, I agree for Mr. Freeze but would also make him a graveknight (with the cold ruinous revivification of course), as he's trapped in his suit (which is also armor), and pretty much regards it as a living death.
VoodistMonk |
Punisher is not magical, not even divine.
He is a beast, a brute, the very embodiment of personal conviction.
I don't have anything better for him, right meow. But I don't agree with making Frank Castle any God's mercenary.
That being said, someone else mentioned that you can make a good Judge Dredd with Guntank Gunslinger and Hellknight.
Arssanguinus |
Yqatuba wrote:Pathfinder's system implies rather more personal magic power, and often less power at manipulating the world generally than fiction including the Harry Potter series. See: 'Gandalf was a 5th level wizard' for another example.How about:
Dumbledore: CG level 20 wizard
Voldemort CE level 18 wizard lich
Gandalf was holding back from what he could almost certainly actually do.
Scavion |
Without a relative power advantage to back it up Avada Kedavra isn't going to kill, or so it was described to the wizard students. It might be as well represented by enervation.
Also; HP wizards are more like PF sorcerers. They don't prepare spells.
+1 for this. Voldemort's wand could also be represented as a Maximize Metamagic Rod since quality of the wand was a thing in HP.
An important thing to remember with stuff like this is that it's very easy to slap 20 levels on something and call it Aragorn. Less is more and most fantastical characters can't survive a drop from orbit at terminal velocity like level 20 characters can.
Saffron Marvelous |
I played around with making Guts once. The version I felt was the most satisfying translation of the things he does in the comics to Pathfinder mechanics was a level 11 fighter. I know a lot of people would probably go barbarian with him, but he was always a very technically skilled guy with magic armour that let him berserk, so I felt Fighter fit more. Mainly focused on getting him the cleave tree, improved vital strike with cleaving smash (from weapon trick), lunge, combat reflexes, and functional with an oversized weapon (I'd probably use a statblock with reach), then set up to move on to whirlwind attack. Not 100% certain that Cleaving Smash lets you take Vital Strike into your iterative cleaves, but that's how I run it because if you invest that hard into Vital Striking AND Cleave, f~&$ it, you deserve to get that bonus.
For alignment, I don't generally truck with alignment at all, but I figure he's Neutral overall. He does Good Things, but he's ultimately been a mercenary most of his life and his motivations are largely personal. I don't think he is particularly passionate about right or wrong. Before the Eclipse, he was on a path to some kind of zen swordsmanship mastery, so unconcerned with the world at large that he didn't even realise his friends were branded traitors. I think he's a good person, but I don't think he falls into a good alignment. Likewise, whether or not he follows rules is largely a matter of convenience; he's not an individualist, but he doesn't really care about the lines either.
So that's Guts - Fighter 11 (minimum, probably more like 16+ given the things he fights), Alignment True Neutral.
VoodistMonk |
I actually misspoke. I have Darth Maul as a Living Weapon/Mindblade gestalt, because of the ability to create a double energy weapon (two bladed Lightsaber).
Darth Vader needs to be able to throw his Lightsaber, somehow.
Maybe Constructed Pugilist-Living Weapon Brawler... the reach Limb Modification might be able to simulate throwing his energy weapon? Could still gestalt it with something else, since Brawler alone is not representative of Darth Vader's true power.
zimmerwald1915 |
Without a relative power advantage to back it up Avada Kedavra isn't going to kill, or so it was described to the wizard students. It might be as well represented by enervation.
Whether enervation kills has nothing to do with the caster and everything to do with the victim and the dice - the victim must have 4 or fewer HD, and you must roll equal to or greater than that. Finger of death is apter, in that at least it gets more likely to kill the stronger the caster gets.
So if we're going with "HP wizards and witches are Sorcerers," Tom's at least level 14.
thejeff |
Without a relative power advantage to back it up Avada Kedavra isn't going to kill, or so it was described to the wizard students. It might be as well represented by enervation.
Also; HP wizards are more like PF sorcerers. They don't prepare spells.
OTOH, they also learn spells from books and years of teaching and don't seem to have any limits on the number of spells they can know or how many they can cast.
They really don't work much like PF casters at all. :)
thejeff |
Mirth is an Arcanist, pretty high level, and Kevin Matchstick is a Magus, starting pretty low level, but climbing quickly.
...just wondering who's familiar.
Didn't see this thread before. :)
I don't think the superstrength and invulnerability really fit Magus, though thematically the bat does.
zimmerwald1915 |
OTOH, they also learn spells from books and years of teaching and don't seem to have any limits on the number of spells they can know or how many they can cast.
They really don't work much like PF casters at all. :)
Hogwarts textbooks are made up of pages of spell knowledge. Clearly.
(That or HP wizards and witches are Arcanists.)
thejeff |
thejeff wrote:OTOH, they also learn spells from books and years of teaching and don't seem to have any limits on the number of spells they can know or how many they can cast.
They really don't work much like PF casters at all. :)
Hogwarts textbooks are made up of pages of spell knowledge. Clearly.
(That or HP wizards and witches are Arcanists.)
Or that they're their own thing, not designed to match the rules of some game system. :)
That's kind of my general problem with threads like this - you can build characters inspired by particular characters from other media, but in most cases they're not really going to be that close. They don't work with the same mechanics or limitations.
zimmerwald1915 |
Or that they're their own thing, not designed to match the rules of some game system. :)
Obviously and trivially true - among other things, the text predates the game system by several years. But the game system is designed to be able to emulate most things in heroic fantasy in broad strokes, albeit not with a perfect one-to-one match to any particular setting's underlying metaphysics other than its own. So we probably shouldn't be so quick to say it can't. That amounts to saying the system fails at its goals.
thejeff |
thejeff wrote:Or that they're their own thing, not designed to match the rules of some game system. :)Obviously and trivially true - among other things, the text predates the game system by several years. But the game system is designed to be able to emulate most things in heroic fantasy in broad strokes, albeit not with a perfect one-to-one match to any particular setting's underlying metaphysics other than its own. So we probably shouldn't be so quick to say it can't. That amounts to saying the system fails at its goals.
If that's its goal, I'd say it fails at it. PF/D&D is really it's own kind of subgenre that doesn't match very closely to much of the genre literature.
And "wizarding school" fantasy is even farther outside most of what it's trying to emulate than things like Tolkien or Conan or SoI&F.
Combat Monster |
I'm currently building Superman as a monk. Unarmed fighting, leaps tall buildings in a single bound. Ki Rush to outrun locomotives or their equivalent. Eventual flight via Wind Jump. Ki Blast to sort of emulate heat vision. Deflect arrows reflavored as a projectiles bouncing off the chest iron body sort of thing. Tossing enemies around like rag dolls.
I'd probably build Flash as a monk too.
Thor as a Fighter/Elemental Sorcerer multiclass worked out pretty well. Slap anything you can reach with a hammer. Shock the hell out of anything else.
Wonder Woman as a Champion. A Shifting Rune to have a sword/whip in conjunction with a shield is how I'd do it.
I'd likely (re)build Captain America as a Champion too. My first take was as a Fighter.
Hulk is a Giant Instinct Barbarian.
Conan as a Barbarian (heresy? I know he never really raged as a rule. I'm rolling with it being tranquil fury) with a rogue multiclass. Probably Ruffian racket.
One of these days I really should find the time to put up my full statblocks on these guys.
Zepheri |
I'm currently building Superman as a monk. Unarmed fighting, leaps tall buildings in a single bound. Ki Rush to outrun locomotives or their equivalent. Eventual flight via Wind Jump. Ki Blast to sort of emulate heat vision. Deflect arrows reflavored as a projectiles bouncing off the chest iron body sort of thing. Tossing enemies around like rag dolls.
I'd probably build Flash as a monk too.
Thor as a Fighter/Elemental Sorcerer multiclass worked out pretty well. Slap anything you can reach with a hammer. Shock the hell out of anything else.
Wonder Woman as a Champion. A Shifting Rune to have a sword/whip in conjunction with a shield is how I'd do it.
I'd likely (re)build Captain America as a Champion too. My first take was as a Fighter.
Hulk is a Giant Instinct Barbarian.
Conan as a Barbarian (heresy? I know he never really raged as a rule. I'm rolling with it being tranquil fury) with a rogue multiclass. Probably Ruffian racket.
One of these days I really should find the time to put up my full statblocks on these guys.
Captain America could be a brawler shield archetype
Conan barbarian/ 2h fighter archetype
In my case I have I little complications whit 1 build and it's Reddick he is a Slayer but I feel it's not only that and must have another class or archetype can someone help me with him