Firebug |
For Sorcerer:
Marid for damage conversion to cold and an unlimited use level 9 that deals damage and blinds.
Orc for flat damage, inherent bonus to Str, and Immunity to fear.
Ghoul for claws that paralyze and burrow.
For Bloodrager:
Arcane for all the buffs.
Aberrant for reach and immunity to sickened/nauseated (see this flawed ioun stone for rage cycling).
Chell Raighn |
Sorcerer Bloodlines:
Phoenix - Healing with Fire spells is just fun, and very amusing.
Orc - An excellent bloodline to pick up on any Martial focused character via Eldritch Heritage... not quite as good for the Sorcerer themselves though...
Elemental - Lots of fun abilities... immunities, immunity bypassing, improved mobility, ability to make any elemental spell your element... what's not to like about this one?
Arcane - The perfect fall-back bloodline for any sorcerer without a specific theme in mind.
Bloodrager Bloodlines:
Abyssal - Free enlarge person on bloodrage and a stronger bloodrage? Sign me up
Hag - Improved bloodrage bonuses... worth a crossblooded dip...
Fey - Confusion on Crit, Charging through difficult terrain, Blur when moving, automatic Haste, Bane... this bloodline is just full of delicious goodies.
Both:
Draconic - Who doesn't enjoy the Draconic Bloodline?
Chell Raighn |
I bet a lot of you guys wish this one got the orc bloodline as well.
You have no idea how much I wish they had included the Orc bloodline for Bloodragers... I ended up picking it up through Eldritch heritage on my Bloodrager because it’s just that good for a martial... and being in a mythic campaign meant I could take Mythic Eldritch Heritage to forego the rest of the feat chain...
Senko |
Sadly I normally play arcanists so I don't get the spells with unicorn and I can't select crossblooded for arcane/elemental or Imperious/Elemental. Though to be fair the abilities I want for elemental/imperious are both at the same lvl so I'd need to pick one or other. Maybe get a genrous GM who gives me all the powers as I don't get the spells.
UnArcaneElection |
Sorry, meant to say "...it is a shame that bloodrager and sorcerer didn't have all the same bloodlines."
So I noticed when Bloodrager first came out -- what's up with that, anyway?
For Sorcerer Bloodlines (including those picked up using Eldritch Heritage), I like this guide, even though it's out of date, so that I can pick whatever is most appropriate for the application.
For Bloodrager Bloodlines, I like Aberrant for Reach (and it works better for this than the Sorcerer version, which doesn't let you take Attacks of Opportunity at the extra distance).
deuxhero |
Dragon78 wrote:Sorry, meant to say "...it is a shame that bloodrager and sorcerer didn't have all the same bloodlines."So I noticed when Bloodrager first came out -- what's up with that, anyway?
Best guess is that during the playtest, which had the same default bloodlines, you couldn't multiclass between hybrid classes and their parent classes. This meant "If the bloodrager takes levels in another class that grants a bloodline, the bloodlines must be the same type" wasn't very likely to come up (if it was even in the playtest version) so there was no incentive to ensure multiclassing between Bloodrager and Sorcerer was easy.
Past the initial Bloodrager bloodlines, it seems largely a case of Sorcerer being more popular and thus better supported than its parent. Only Black Blood and Sphinx (and technically Hag, but Accursed is the same thing just with a different name) are Bloodrager only.
UnArcaneElection |
^How did I miss that one? If you want to lead an army with the best equipment, this is for you. Unfortunately, Dwarves don't make very good Sorcerers except by using the Empyreal Bloodline, which due to being Wildblooded is incompatible with this one (Cross-Blooded won't let you do it).
This one would also be pretty good to take with Eldritch Heritage and Improved Eldritch Heritage, since the 1st and 3rd level Bloodline Powers are actually the good ones (unlike most Sorcerer Bloodlines).
Of course, this one is too new for Magic in the Blood to have it.
UnArcaneElection |
^Quite a number of decent Bloodline Arcana to choose from, but I'm afraid if I rated one as tops, I would be missing something. Not easy to get through all of them.
For Bloodline Powers, Salamander is uncommon for having both of its first two powers actually be good if Crafting is what you're into. Ghoul is uncommon for having a "Claws"-series 1st level power that is actually good (although it would normally be better on a martial or semi-martial type with Eldritch Heritage than on an actual Sorcerer), and its accompanying 3rd level power is not terrible.
If you want to be a combat Sorcerer, the 9th level Bloodline Powers of Abyssal, Brutal, and Orc are awesome, but unfortunately the Sorcerer archetype (Eldritch Scrapper) that would otherwise be best equipped to take advantage out of these trades out the 9th level Bloodline Power. Booooo!