Undersized Mounts & Mount Selection - PFS


Pathfinder Society

Liberty's Edge 1/5

While I am sure in Home Games this would be a GM Call, but I was wondering how this would work for Pathfinder Society. For a Cavalier or Oracle of Nature, would this let them take the mounts normally limited to Small characters, or would it allow a Small Character to take a Dog (Normally available to Small Characters at 4th when it becomes a Medium Animal).

- Remy Brant, who wouldn't mind his Dog Early

3/5

No, you can not. You can take a wolf at level one and then change to dog at 4th.

The Exchange 5/5

Finlanderboy wrote:
No, you can not. You can take a wolf at level one and then change to dog at 4th.

I think he is asking if someone can take the small dog (like a Druid could), not the medium dog that you would get when you reach 4th level...

3/5

You can choose to not increase it's size. You get other stat bumps instead.

It is +2 dex and con

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 **

I am just happy that this feat (combined with a wand of ant haul) will allow my Halfling ranger to ride his dire rat animal companion. Forty foot move, 20-ft climb, 20-ft swim...not too shabby.

To answer to OP's question though:

SRD wrote:
A cavalier gains the service of a loyal and trusty steed to carry him into battle. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the cavalier's level as his effective druid level. The creature must be one that he is capable of riding and is suitable as a mount. A Medium cavalier can select a camel or a horse. A Small cavalier can select a pony or wolf, but can also select a boar or a dog if he is at least 4th level. The GM might approve other animals as suitable mounts.

Looks like the last sentence is the key here, which means expect table variance. Of course, this seems reasonable since you took a feat to do it, so likely no one will rule against you, but it isn't clear cut.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Undersized Mount does not open up new Animal Companion selections for you, or give you early access to any you otherwise gain at higher levels.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 **

Nefreet wrote:
Undersized Mount does not open up new Animal Companion selections for you, or give you early access to any you otherwise gain at higher levels.

At first I thought that since RAW says, "The GM might approve other animals as suitable mounts." and getting the Undersized Mount feat might make an otherwise unsuitable mount suitable, it seemed that by RAW it was doable if the table GM says, "Okay." Then I realized the Table GM isn't really the PFS GM, Mike Brock is. And since he hasn't approved any additional mounts then you are completely correct.

5/5 5/55/55/5

Well there's the pfs specific mount class feature rule, which comes with the size restriction, and the "suitable mount" clause in ride, which doesn't. This only appears to affect the latter.

Grand Lodge 3/5

If it fits your build, you could take Huntsmaster Cavalier and get a dog or bird.

Sczarni

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Well there's the pfs specific mount class feature rule, which comes with the size restriction, and the "suitable mount" clause in ride, which doesn't. This only appears to affect the latter.

I wonder though if the more specific feat Vs the general AR rule would allow you to bypass that restriction. I'm hoping that is the case as my wife has her heart set on playing a Dwarf Cavalier riding a Boar.

Sovereign Court 5/5

beast rider arc type opens up more mounts

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