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I'll always remember the story of the dad who was teaching his son how to play Pathfinder. The son looked seriously at his dad, and pointed to POWER ATTACK on the sheet.
He was going to POWER ATTACK, and defeat the bad guys in the cave!
They shared that story on this forum.
I started at age 8, myself, with my sibling who is younger than I am. We kicked it with 1st edition. I was running my own games a few years later, and that taught me more than anyone wanted me to learn about Public Speaking.
How about you?
In that spirit, I'd like to say, hey. It would be pretty cool to have some family-centered playtests. Encourage youngsters to pick up the book. I have no kids of my own, so I can't offer anything here but a please. :D I suspect Paizo can't ask either, but--maybe we could ask one another?
To say involving kids would mean "dumbing things down" would be silly. I mean, 1st edition. Come on, guys. :D These are gamer kids. They're building rockets in the back yard because they're bored for just 5 minutes.
Sssh. Your daughter's being quiet. You know she is. >.>
But, 1e had the advantage of fewer rules and fewer parts you needed to read if you were just playing. What I'm getting at is that testing as families might help us gauge things like organization and new player friendliness. It would mean we can send Wayne Reynolds better thank you notes for his awesome art, like 13/10, it made my kid want to play a druid.
Having families onboard is also a good test because it keeps us in the real world. Gamers gettin' older, yo. Let's make PF2e for all of us.
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I'm 14 been playing since I was like 7 with my brother. I wish my parents would play. Anyway, thanks for saying you don't have to dumb it down for kids. That made my day.
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I'm 28 and my family was never really into the stuff
I started about 6-8 years ago to roleplay on a regular basis and think that was actually way to late
But through pnp I met my girlfriend and since she is in a way part of my family :P
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I'm 14 been playing since I was like 7 with my brother. I wish my parents would play. Anyway, thanks for saying you don't have to dumb it down for kids. That made my day.
Gamer kids are a breed, man. :D You were totally building rockets.
Seriously, though. I think we underestimate kids all the time. It's like, "I started playing 1st Ed DnD at age 8" or "I read the entire LOTR set by 7th grade" and we forget the next generation of kids can do that, too.
My family wouldnt touch TTRPG with a ten foot pole. I had the materials as a kid but never found anyone to play with. It wasnt till I was in my 20's I got to play table top. The closest I got was video games and Hero quest board game.
The thing that drew me in was the complexity. I wanted to learn all the systems! I dont get the new era of easier to learn and play...
My family wouldnt touch TTRPG with a ten foot pole. I had the materials as a kid but never found anyone to play with. It wasnt till I was in my 20's I got to play table top. The closest I got was video games and Hero quest board game.
The thing that drew me in was the complexity. I wanted to learn all the systems! I dont get the new era of easier to learn and play...
Hey you. I get it. I think you may have missed some of the initial post, though...
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I've got a nephew who wants to get into RPGs. But a nice coincidence, he turns 10 this August...
My wife will be in my playtest, but our daughters grew up and moved across the country to Bellevue, WA. The younger one is in a Pathfinder campaign and I hope that her GM arranges a playtest group so that we can compare notes.
She started tabletop roleplaying games at age 6 with her mother as the GM.
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I'm 14 been playing since I was like 7 with my brother. I wish my parents would play. Anyway, thanks for saying you don't have to dumb it down for kids. That made my day.Gamer kids are a breed, man. :D You were totally building rockets.
Seriously, though. I think we underestimate kids all the time. It's like, "I started playing 1st Ed DnD at age 8" or "I read the entire LOTR set by 7th grade" and we forget the next generation of kids can do that, too.
I haven't built a rocket in like, a whole two weeks
I fully intend to be playing the playtest with my family.
Built 20+ Estes rockets... check.
Started playing RPGs around age 14... check.
Played RPGs with my own kids, some years ago, and for the last two years with one grandkid... check.
Great initiative. Geek out!
My two daughters started playing TTRPGs when they were 7 and 10. My now eleven-year old younger daughter has been to GenCon with me twice, is a member of the PFS, and both daughters (the eldest is now 13) are a part of my monthly Rise of the Runelords campaign.
If I end up playing the Playtest, they will absolutely be a part of my playtest group.
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I started playing RPGs when I was about 10 years old (well, okay, I got the books and dragooned my parents into letting me run games for them...I don't think I played with anyone else for more than a session until I was 13 or 14). So it's been more than 20 years now.
Damn. Now I feel old.
For the last several years I've been running a game for a bunch of kids. They were around 10 when we started. They're 15 now. The biggest change I've noticed between the generations is that the kids I'm dealing with now have worse attention spans than those I ran games for when I was 14. That could easily be specific to this particular group, though.
I'm curious what triggered this thread. What makes something think that they need to do something extra to 'support playing with families'?
I'm curious what triggered this thread. What makes something think that they need to do something extra to 'support playing with families'?
I am saying it's important to include/encourage families to be an element of the playtest. Sometimes, just stating that adds that extra level of welcome, or it encourages someone to think about something that hey, "Maybe I should have thought about this, but I've just been so busy..."
I mean, just sharing this idea has encouraged some conversation, and "hey, you know, my kiddo's been looking to get into RPGs..." so I'd say that is a great thing. :D
Kids have wisdom, and we all started there.