Im joining a pathfinder game thats been going on for a while.
theres an oracle, a paladin, a rogue/bard and an investigator.
The game is mostly set in cities and has a fair amount of intrigue.
they are at level 4. they apparently level up very slowly.
What would you recommend playing?
edit; also if you have any fun builds to recomend that would be awesome! the group is apparently pretty low power level so id like something fun/silly but not to strong.
well for a Intrigue campaign, the Vigilante is pretty flavorful, it can be built as fighter (avenger) or rogue (stalker). a build i never had the chance to play was a skinwalker (witch-wolf)(small size for being a halfling)
brawler 1/stalker 19.) he was a very famous halfling who could transform into a 2 1/2 ft. tall were wolf to fight crime. i add brawler so i could bite/claw/claw/kick/kick as my attack. not optimized but very fun.edit: whoops i forgot to add that the vigilante could also be built as a caster as well, such as warlock and magical child.
The Wizard is the most obvious fit for this party. They're not particularly hard to build, either. There are three golden rules to Wizard builds: raise intelligence as high as you can, be a specialist, and don't oppose conjuration or transmutation. Follow those three rules and you've got yourself a great wizard.
Without knowing more about the particular builds and the play styles it looks like a 9-level arcane caster would fit in well and cover some holes.
Wizard is of course awesome at everything, but I think Witch would be a pretty good choice as well.
One build I've wanted to try, which would probably work well here is a Bloodmarked Skinwalker Witch with the Bat Shape feat and a Bat familiar. It would be pretty excellent at stealth and observation in an urban environment and although you couldn't cast spells while tranformed, you would still have your hexes.
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Something Arcane. Or just muck it up with an urban Barb to mess with the party. Or play something evil, with a ring of nondetection - be the source of intrigue.
The party does not have a full Arcane Spell caster, and the bard is multi-class so my recommendation is to play a Wizard or Sorcerer. Personally I am love wizards, but considering the "mostly set in cities and has a fair amount of intrigue" point a Charismatic Sorcerer would be a very good choice. Take Spell Focus Enchantment and grab Charm Person(1st level spell), pump up Bluff. If I remember correctly the Fey bloodline specializes in enchantments/charms.
Sorcerer or Arcanist. That way you can invest in charisma and actually use it for non people skills. Enchanter or Illusionist. Boost your save dcs as high as possible. Subtle spell might actually see play.
Sorcerer or Arcanist. That way you can invest in charisma and actually use it for non people skills. Enchanter or Illusionist. Boost your save dcs as high as possible. Subtle spell might actually see play.
An arcane caster is certainly a good option given the group. You may however what to consider something more fun.
- Bard
- Bard/Master spy (@ level 7)
- Vigilante (warlock)
- Psychic with the psychedelia discipline (just your average groovy caster that everyone loves to hand out with)
+1 on arcanist. I haven't played one yet, but they look like a wizard with more flexibility.
If you want to be INT-based and use people skills you might want Clever Wordplay, the trait.
The party has a rogue/bard and an investigator so that's some arcane magic already. They have an oracle for divine spellcasting, a paladin for being the melee beefstick with some healing.
You... Well, honestly, I know others are saying "play arcane," but you don't necessarily HAVE to with that setup. I'd SUGGEST arcane, but I wouldn't force it.
You could get away with a 6th level spellcaster given there's an investigator (presumably with extracts) available. Don't do bard; you'll step on the rogue/bard's toes. I'd avoid Alchemist and Investigator for the same reasons.
So, how about one of the following:
6th level casters - Magus (for martial skills + arcane spellcasting), Cabalist Vigilante (Witch spells, 6th level casting) OR Warlock archetype (more combat focused), Warpriest (for being a beatstick with more magic). Notice how most of these are combat oriented - the other players already took the less combat oriented classes. The Vigilante has a dual identity which can be fun and useful to you.
9th level casters - Wizard, Arcanist, Sorcerer, Witch, and Shaman all seem like good choices. The first four are arcane spellcasters with the full range of useful spells you might want, though the Witch sacrifices some of the Wizard's spell list to do other useful things like Cure Light Wounds on her list. The Witch's hexes can be super interesting.
And actually, I'd toss the Druid on there too. Druids can use shapeshifting to turn into small, innocuous animals: doves, dogs, cats, etc. This is GREAT for spying. And you can use your animal companion in a similar capacity, or even use your ability to talk to animals to get them to do simple tasks for you. There's lots of archetypes to choose from, and since you said this isn't a high power campaign you can get away with picking whatever suits your style best.
Someone a few posts up mentioned inquisitors as a suggestion and I'm going to second that recommendation because I love inquisitors and recommend them every time someone asks. I'll concede that a 9th level arcane caster is a good suggestion for the party you mention, I'm just not good at full casters so I can't weigh in on them.
For some inquisitor ideas, you could look at archetypes like cloaked wolf, heretic, or infiltrator for some more urban intrigue focus builds that won't diminish combat effectiveness. The conversion, heresy, or reformation inquisitions give wis to social skills which could also be helpful for the campaign.
Inquisitors work well with melee or ranged builds depending on what you prefer and come with a lot of tools to help both in and out of combat.