Hello! That stuff up in the thread title? That's the stuff. But you want more stuff. Who doesn't? So let me explain the Kansas-Nebraska Act and-
Right then, wrong stuff. You're probably reading this because you want to hear about a game with openings. I have two lovely openings in my gestalt, (soonish to be) mythic WotR game thanks to RL interference. The party are just starting their second foray into the Gray Garrison, so I rate them 75-80% done with the first book. All the chargen stuff from here still applies, unless I've forgotten something, save that you're making a fourth level gestalt PC now instead of a first level one.
The present party roster:
Galin (half-elf warpriest/fighter)
Steave (aasimar brawler/paladin)
Theran (human barbarian/oracle)
Yridhrennor (elf wizard/arcanist)
The players have expressed an interest in securing a sneaky type, so I will weigh that more heavily, but there are two spots open so if you're interested in the game but not the role there's definitely room for other concepts.
Should you want a sense for how the game operates or how awful a GM I am, to better minister to the needs of the Samnell-shaped voodoo dolls I'm sure everybody has several of, you can also check out the gameplay and discussion threads.
I'll take applications until midnight, EDT, July 7, a week from this posting and select the two that seem like they'll fit best with the group.
So that's the stuff. Be sure to ask if anything's unclear, confusing, or uncertain. I love to destroy questions with the power of answers.
Sold!
Ok, question, can I submit more than one character concept?
Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand if you won't allow it though.
I am interested and will put a sneaky character together tonight...
Eh, might as well try. Let's see how this goes!
Oh, I shouldn't... I really shouldn't...
...screw it, lemme see what I can concoct.
Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand it you won't allow it though.
You too!? Great combo, isn't it?
Flurry of Blows + Sneak Attack = So. Much. Pain.
Oh, I shouldn't... I really shouldn't...
...screw it, lemme see what I can concoct.
Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand it you won't allow it though.You too!? Great combo, isn't it?
Flurry of Blows + Sneak Attack = So. Much. Pain.
More than that. Unless I'm wrong, the Champion mythic path's Titan's Bane treats the enemy as flatfoot if you're in their space. The problem is the only character of mine that would be both gestalt and mythic is my fairy monk.
Sold!
Ok, question, can I submit more than one character concept?
You can if you like.
Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand if you won't allow it though.
No homebrew races is indeed the case, but if you want to rework the guy as a halfling or some other standard race then that's cool.
this looks cool but I only have a paladin created to use.
if you are interested its in the alias (non-gestalt)
This isn't a PFS game, if that's an issue. I've got no objection at all to your making a new character or remaking one you play elsewhere as gestalt. I don't even have to know. :)
Does being a GM running it disqualify me? XD *Fair disclosure*
Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand if you won't allow it though.No homebrew races is indeed the case, but if you want to rework the guy as a halfling or some other standard race then that's cool.
Won't work as well if she isn't tiny. How many creatures will we face that are large size or larger? If plenty I'll submit her as a halfling. Maybe buy some reduce person potions too....
Actually, I meant to ask. What are the rules for race? I checked through the original post and couldn't find anything. And I would presume Core and Featured are cool given there is already an aasimar, but I thought I would ask just to be sure.
Actually, I meant to ask. What are the rules for race? I checked through the original post and couldn't find anything. And I would presume Core and Featured are cool given there is already an aasimar, but I thought I would ask just to be sure.
I can't believe I never wrote any, but it seems so. Yes, let's stick to core and featured races.
Working on a Rogue (Swashbuckler)/Swashbuckler...
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This isn't a PFS game, if that's an issue. I've got no objection at all to your making a new character or remaking one you play elsewhere as gestalt. I don't even have to know. :)this looks cool but I only have a paladin created to use.
if you are interested its in the alias (non-gestalt)
I wasn't worried about this being a PFS game, more along the lines that applying with a Paladin is not to my advantage as you already have one.
This particular alias just happens to be a PFS alias, but I have another one that isn't.
I used this alias so you would have an chance to at least see the character concept
Won't work as well if she isn't tiny. How many creatures will we face that are large size or larger? If plenty I'll submit her as a halfling. Maybe buy some reduce person potions too....Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand if you won't allow it though.No homebrew races is indeed the case, but if you want to rework the guy as a halfling or some other standard race then that's cool.
It's hard to say without going through every encounter, honestly. On top of that, I tend to add and swap things around, as well as consolidating filler and background encounters in the interests of keeping the action going at the slower online pace. There's also a decent chance that I'd toss in some extra Larges specifically for a PC specialized in fighting them, though there would still be some limits when you're indoors and allowing for forgetfulness on my part. I can't promise Giantslayer level big guy hacking, of course.
As I read Titan's Bane, it wants two or more sizes bigger than you. For a halfling without special effort, that's Large and up. But a halfling with a reduce person gets to be Tiny and would work the magic on Mediums. Since you'd be taking rogue levels anyway, you could invest in Use Magic Device. The DC to fire a wand is only 20 and the cost of a reduce person wand is all of 750 gp, out of the 6,000 at your disposal.
Down the road, Reduce Person is also something you can apply Permanency to.
Won't work as well if she isn't tiny. How many creatures will we face that are large size or larger? If plenty I'll submit her as a halfling. Maybe buy some reduce person potions too....Damn, i've been wanting a mythic gestalt for the longest time! I'm assuming no homebrew races though? I had a monk/rogue in mind- both unchained- but it's a custom race. Tiny-sized fey. I understand if you won't allow it though.No homebrew races is indeed the case, but if you want to rework the guy as a halfling or some other standard race then that's cool.It's hard to say without going through every encounter, honestly. On top of that, I tend to add and swap things around, as well as consolidating filler and background encounters in the interests of keeping the action going at the slower online pace. There's also a decent chance that I'd toss in some extra Larges specifically for a PC specialized in fighting them, though there would still be some limits when you're indoors and allowing for forgetfulness on my part. I can't promise Giantslayer level big guy hacking, of course.
As I read Titan's Bane, it wants two or more sizes bigger than you. For a halfling without special effort, that's Large and up. But a halfling with a reduce person gets to be Tiny and would work the magic on Mediums. Since you'd be taking rogue levels anyway, you could invest in Use Magic Device. The DC to fire a wand is only 20 and the cost of a reduce person wand is all of 750 gp, out of the 6,000 at your disposal.
Down the road, Reduce Person is also something you can apply Permanency to.
Hm....that's true. I wasn't planning on investing in charisma but there are ways of using other stats for UMD. Alright, I'll join. I'll get her sheet up later tonight.
Very, very interested.
Are evil alignments still off the table?
I've always wanted to run a LE Hellknight through Wrath, and gestalt being added only makes me more interested.
I have quite a bit of experience running an Evil PC in non-evil campaigns, and wouldn't cause any big problems with the group, especially the paladin.
(He could definitely work as LN, but the big E really fits his ideas of the world and how he reacts.)
*Waits patiently* o wo~
Does being a GM running it disqualify me? XD *Fair disclosure*
It's not a problem, so long as you're careful about separating your GM knowledge from things your PC acts on.
I wasn't worried about this being a PFS game, more along the lines that applying with a Paladin is not to my advantage as you already have one.This particular alias just happens to be a PFS alias, but I have another one that isn't.
I get it now. :) I don't necessarily mind the overlap, particularly not in gestalt. The PC that just withdrew had paladin levels too. The most it would probably factor in to your disadvantage would be to decide between two otherwise dead even PCs. It might hurt more if you matched the gestalt full split of another PC (for the current roster, that would mean a brawler/paladin alongside a brawler/paladin) but it would depend on choices in archetypes and builds too.
GMs often change things up anyway, so yeah. XD And what are your thoughts on third-party content, like Spheres of Power and the Mythic Mania trilogy?
Very, very interested.
Are evil alignments still off the table?
I've always wanted to run a LE Hellknight through Wrath, and gestalt being added only makes me more interested.
I have quite a bit of experience running an Evil PC in non-evil campaigns, and wouldn't cause any big problems with the group, especially the paladin.(He could definitely work as LN, but the big E really fits his ideas of the world and how he reacts.)
I appreciate the consideration, but with the game well underway and a social contract established I would want to have the players weigh in on having an Evil about. Let's try for a best-of-both-worlds solution: Work him up as LN and then if you get the spot we can talk about it as a group and see how everyone feels. Sound good?
GMs often change things up anyway, so yeah. XD And what are your thoughts on third-party content, like Spheres of Power and the Mythic Mania trilogy?
I'm not familiar with Spheres of Power or Mythic Mania. My general position is no third party content, just to cut down on the number of things I've got to keep straight.
But I know mythic needs some houseruling and I've got one up already (reworking crits to avoid the multipliers on multipliers problem), albeit we've all forgotten about it pretty constantly to date. So I'd be open potentially to something on a case-by-case basis, but not so much entire systems. From my very brief look at the product page, it seems like that's going to rule out Spheres for sure.
Sure thing, Never gotten a chance to play in wrath of the Righteous,
Oracle/Paladin alright with you?
What level do you need it created too, or is level 1 fine?
Yeah, Spheres is an alternative system. Mythic Mania is the giant 3PP expansion to the system (mostly written by the same people who wrote Mythic Adventures in the first place), and makes the system much better overall (adds new feats, spells, monsters, mythic class abilities, and so on). Most helpfully, it has suggested fixes for known problems.
I'm good either way, of course - I just wanted to doublecheck the build rules before I got started. XD Now, let's see, what character do I want to use...
Here's my character sheet. I'll update it as the day goes on. Question about mythic stuff in the future, how godly will things get? I'm thinking of incorporating my character's actual race into her backstory. Basically, she was turned into a halfling and wants to find a way to change back. Would something like that be alright to have? And what is our starting funds?
Ok, for your consideration:
1. Tiefling Paladin/Sorcerer, lawful good (naturally). I ran a tiefling pally sometime ago and loved it, I've always wanted to revisit the character or someone like him. I've shopped this idea around a little bit but I think Wrath would be a great AP for him. He's an all loving kind of hero, believes that all are worthy of redemption (aside from undead and demons), and is the first into the fire and the last out. Sarenrae seems the most likely deity.
2. Slayer/Inquisitor, race undecided, lawful neutral. Fills out the skill monkey slot pretty nicely and I've been wanting to run a slayer for a while now. Thinking a kind of divine warrior/detective, road worn but still trying to do the right thing.
3. Human Gunslinger/Oracle, starts neutral good. He's cursed, he's going to hell, and he's going to make a difference before it happens. Or, that's what he thinks. I picture this one as starting good intentioned, but you know about what they say the road to hell is paved with. He made a deal with a (the) devil to fight evil, but payment is coming due.
4. Hunter/Fighter, race undecided, true neutral or lawful neutral. This one is a straight up mercenary, in for the pay and glory. Likes to work as a forward scout or long range support, but happy to get up in the fight when called for. Some skill monkey but not as much as I could do.
5. Elven Slayer/Kineticist, Lawful Evil. This is because I'm usually the token evil guy on table top and I think this combo would be hilarious. Cautious, cunning, and ambitious but loyal to his allies and caring for his subordinates. Why would he fight evil? Because this is his world as much as it belongs to the good guys, and he wants to protect it. He's not evil out spite, or because he serves some dark power, or even selfishness. He's evil because he believes the ends justify the means, any means.
Just tell me which one(s) you like and I'll flesh out with background and crunch.
Sure thing, Never gotten a chance to play in wrath of the Righteous,
Oracle/Paladin alright with you?
Sounds good.
What level do you need it created too, or is level 1 fine?
Level 4, 6,000gp.
Here's my character sheet. I'll update it as the day goes on. Question about mythic stuff in the future, how godly will things get? I'm thinking of incorporating my character's actual race into her backstory. Basically, she was turned into a halfling and wants to find a way to change back. Would something like that be alright to have? And what is our starting funds?
Power-wise? I know I'll be doing some nerfing, but a certain degree of craziness is the main idea.
An involuntary shapechange in your backstory is completely fine. There would probably somewhere down the road where you'd have a chance to revert to norm, but it would be a while.
You have 6,000gp to spend on your gear and so forth.
Hm....so, I'm probably jumping the gun a bit, but I can't help but notice permanent Reduce Person costs 2,500 GP....would it be alright coming in with that already applied? Since I can't get a mythic level until later I'll switch one level of rogue with Mouser swashbuckler so I can still flank and provide benefits to my allies.
Hm....so, I'm probably jumping the gun a bit, but I can't help but notice permanent Reduce Person costs 2,500 GP....would it be alright coming in with that already applied? Since I can't get a mythic level until later I'll switch one level of rogue with Mouser swashbuckler so I can still flank and provide benefits to my allies.
I hadn't thought of that, but it seems reasonable.
Hm....so, I'm probably jumping the gun a bit, but I can't help but notice permanent Reduce Person costs 2,500 GP....would it be alright coming in with that already applied? Since I can't get a mythic level until later I'll switch one level of rogue with Mouser swashbuckler so I can still flank and provide benefits to my allies.I hadn't thought of that, but it seems reasonable.
Radical, I'll update her stats so I don't have anything below 10 after the spell's applied.
General note here, since it developed after the writing of the chargen and I forgot earlier: This game uses Roll20 for battle maps. It's just way easier for me to manage things that way. If your PC is accepted, I'll grab your profile pic to use as a token and grant you control over movement and such. I'm pretty sure it works on every desktop platform, but know there is no mobile version and that might be a deal-breaker for some.
Probably not a big deal, but if it is for someone then best get it out there before anyone puts too much effort into making up a character.
I have a gestalt build of a slayer/fighter which could work for this.
It was built on a custom race, but can be normalized to something standard. Maybe a halfling.
General note here, since it developed after the writing of the chargen and I forgot earlier: This game uses Roll20 for battle maps. It's just way easier for me to manage things that way. If your PC is accepted, I'll grab your profile pic to use as a token and grant you control over movement and such. I'm pretty sure it works on every desktop platform, but know there is no mobile version and that might be a deal-breaker for some.
Probably not a big deal, but if it is for someone then best get it out there before anyone puts too much effort into making up a character.
Oh....I mean, normally I'd prefer roll20, but is this still pbp? I might not be able to do the time due to work and other games....
This party looks very smash-y already, so I think I'll focus on something else. XD
Oh....I mean, normally I'd prefer roll20, but is this still pbp? I might not be able to do the time due to work and other games....General note here, since it developed after the writing of the chargen and I forgot earlier: This game uses Roll20 for battle maps. It's just way easier for me to manage things that way. If your PC is accepted, I'll grab your profile pic to use as a token and grant you control over movement and such. I'm pretty sure it works on every desktop platform, but know there is no mobile version and that might be a deal-breaker for some.
Probably not a big deal, but if it is for someone then best get it out there before anyone puts too much effort into making up a character.
It is still PBP. Roll20 is strictly to have a battle map people can refer to and move their own tokens around on. I've been at the table all of twice when a player was also there. We're all very asynchronous. :)
Ok, for your consideration:
1. Tiefling Paladin/Sorcerer, lawful good (naturally). I ran a tiefling pally sometime ago and loved it, I've always wanted to revisit the character or someone like him. I've shopped this idea around a little bit but I think Wrath would be a great AP for him. He's an all loving kind of hero, believes that all are worthy of redemption (aside from undead and demons), and is the first into the fire and the last out. Sarenrae seems the most likely deity.
2. Slayer/Inquisitor, race undecided, lawful neutral. Fills out the skill monkey slot pretty nicely and I've been wanting to run a slayer for a while now. Thinking a kind of divine warrior/detective, road worn but still trying to do the right thing.
These two seem like they'd be the best fits of the six.
These two seem like they'd be the best fits of the six.Ok, for your consideration:
1. Tiefling Paladin/Sorcerer, lawful good (naturally). I ran a tiefling pally sometime ago and loved it, I've always wanted to revisit the character or someone like him. I've shopped this idea around a little bit but I think Wrath would be a great AP for him. He's an all loving kind of hero, believes that all are worthy of redemption (aside from undead and demons), and is the first into the fire and the last out. Sarenrae seems the most likely deity.
2. Slayer/Inquisitor, race undecided, lawful neutral. Fills out the skill monkey slot pretty nicely and I've been wanting to run a slayer for a while now. Thinking a kind of divine warrior/detective, road worn but still trying to do the right thing.
Well that doesn't inspire a vote of confidence. >.<; Either way, I'll keep updating my character sheet so please consider it. It should have a link to my chosen picture at the bottom too when I find one that works.
Still working on mine at the moment to submit to you. Going with a Ratfolk Sniper/Bolt Ace. Gonna go Lawful Neutral with him and try my best to provide cover fire for the group. Eventually gonna take it up a notch and does some twitch level of stuff, though I assume most demons will be immune to poison, I'll still use a few different tricks.
Got the crunch down, gonna work up the backstory next
Do you accept drawbacks for 1 additional trait? If not its cool, only curious cause thats the last part of my crunch.
Do you know what mythic paths the current players plan to walk?
Well that doesn't inspire a vote of confidence. >.<; Either way, I'll keep updating my character sheet so please consider it. It should have a link to my chosen picture at the bottom too when I find one that works.
Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I ought to have been. I meant only to help Almagafor narrow down his ideas. It wasn't a final (or even preliminary) judgement on who will join the game. That decision doesn't get made until the end of the submission period, a week hence. Your PC is still in the running, same as everyone else's.
It wouldn't be at all fair to tell people they had a week and then pick early.
This looks like a lot of fun. I'm thinking about going with an Investigator (empiricist)/Witch. For some reason I like the idea of a Sherlock Holmes type being gifted with a supernatural power that he can't explain rationally.
Still working on mine at the moment to submit to you. Going with a Ratfolk Sniper/Bolt Ace. Gonna go Lawful Neutral with him and try my best to provide cover fire for the group. Eventually gonna take it up a notch and does some twitch level of stuff, though I assume most demons will be immune to poison, I'll still use a few different tricks.
Demons are immune to poison, yeah.
Got the crunch down, gonna work up the backstory next
Do you accept drawbacks for 1 additional trait? If not its cool, only curious cause thats the last part of my crunch.
I allow a drawback in exchange for a trait, but only one such trade off.
Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I ought to have been. I meant only to help Almagafor narrow down his ideas. It wasn't a final (or even preliminary) judgement on who will join the game. That decision doesn't get made until the end of the submission period, a week hence. Your PC is still in the running, same as everyone else's.
It wouldn't be at all fair to tell people they had a week and then pick early.
It's fine, I was being a little coy anyway. Well, I think my character's finished. Now I just need to decide if I want to go tiny or stick with small until I get a mythic level. The sheet should be finished save for her backstory (which I will add later) and any final details (what to spend 500 gold on....)
I allow a drawback in exchange for a trait, but only one such trade off.Got the crunch down, gonna work up the backstory next
Do you accept drawbacks for 1 additional trait? If not its cool, only curious cause thats the last part of my crunch.
Ended up deciding against the drawback. Short backstory and Crunch should be all finished :3 hope to jump on in
Do you know what mythic paths the current players plan to walk?
I haven't asked since the game started, so these are very much non-binding statements of intent, but here you go:
Galin: Champion, small chance for Marshal
Steave: Champion, Marshal, or Guardian
Theran: Champion
Yridhrennor: Archmage