Tim is/was a good Robin, but I honestly like the idea of him leading Young Justice instead of Titans.
Also as for best robin, I dunno about Steph, but best Batgirl besides Barbara would have to be Cassandra. But I agree with Cori in her picks.
Damien Wayne is fine...if you just had him as the Devil Batman...
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It depends on how we're judging them. If we're judging full career and not just time spent as Robin, my #1 is Dick. If we are just judging the Robin part of their career, my #1 is Tim.
Yeah, that's a good point. Tim's my favorite Robin, but Dick's my favorite character overall.
I'm not sure THAT's accurate since I'm still a little miffed with Grant Morrison in places for X-men...
But I stand by Damien as Devil Batman.
I like Steph as Batgirl...but I always felt if it came to a fight between her and Cassandra, Cassandra would win hands down.
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I'm not sure THAT's accurate since I'm still a little miffed with Grant Morrison in places for X-men...
But I stand by Damien as Devil Batman.
I like Steph as Batgirl...but I always felt if it came to a fight between her and Cassandra, Cassandra would win hands down.
Sure, fighting skillwise Cassandra beats everyone in the Batfamily, including Bruce. The only person in the ancillary Batfamily that gives her a fight would be Dinah. But favorites aren't determined by who can beat up who, I prefer Steph's vibrance and personality, and her sheer gumption.
Cori,
Maybe not but it's kind of how I figure out who might be better at some things than others.
And yes, A-zombie, they are putting in a sequel to DKR III: Master Race with Carrie Kelley's Batwoman teaming up with Superman and Wonder Woman's daughter AND Jon Kent.
Also less good is the fact there's a solicitation for Superman POSSIBLY revealing his secret identity. And possibly that General Lane won't make it after being shot.
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Dan DiDio Has Departed As Publisher Of DC Comics
Well, I see that as some great news. The only thing that would make it better, is if he's leaving the company completely.
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More Details Emerge About Dan DiDio’s Firing; DC Comics May Soon Be History
So, apparently DiDio was actually fired. Can't say I'm sad about that.
The other part of that news, the rumor of DC comics coming to an end if this new 5G story isn't successful, I'm taking with a huge grain of salt. Still, it wouldn't surprise me. At this point, it wouldn't bother me too much, as I've been backing off my DC purchases due to s%@+ty stories anyway.
I dunno if DC will go under...so much as it might just file for bankruptcy and hope they can get some money back from the CW shows.
Also not sad to see Dido go either. He and Tom King pretty much RUINED Rebirth...not to mention Wally. (Though at least Wally is getting a LITTLE better...)
Also while I like Van Scriver as artist, I can officially say this: HE"S an a$#%~%!!
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Comic book characters without comics would just be inexpressibly sad. Though I admit, I've been tired of $4 an issue for a while now. Part of me would be happy to time travel to repurchase and reread my first collection from the 60's and 70's, one week at a time, for 20-25 cents an issue off a spinning rack at a 7-11...and ignore most of what's happened in DC post-Crisis.
And also...5G sounds awful.
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I'm not very familiar with this whole 5G event, other than to know it's their latest re-ordering of the DC universe.
That being said, if they are indeed going to move forward with the idea of having heirs take up various masked mantles, I might be cool with that. It's an idea I've long supported.
I was fine with Wally originally taking over for Barry and enjoying a 20-ish year run. Later, I was cool when Bart took over from Wally, although the stories weren't as strong.
I was fine with Kyle taking over as Green Lantern and enjoying a 10-ish year run. I liked that, for a while at least, there was only one human Green Lantern.
I was fine when Dick finally took over as Batman, although I didn't collect as much of that since it also involved that little s$+$bag Damien as Robin. I forget how long that lasted.
In short order, it can be done, and done successfully. Somewhere along the way, DC forgot that very important fact.
the 5G thing doesn't worry me.
Time and again we've seen "All New All Different" versions of characters and 99% of the time we eventually get back to the original version, because that's the version that can be merchandised outside of comics. You had the big change when the Silver Age happened, but Post-Silver age I can only think of a handful of New versions that have actually stuck. Most either revert if it's a big character or vanish if it's a minor character.
It will suck if 5G is the death knell for DC though. Will Disney follow up and end the publishing side of Marvel and go full TV and Movies?
Superheroes have never been in the public eye so much but the comics are at deaths door. Damn that is depressing
Right now I'm just going to believe it when I see about DC comics not being published. Mostly because I don't think AT&T is that stupid...but I've been surprised before.
Mostly we'll see if anything stick around in 2020 besides Marvel comics and the indies.
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Marvel seems to understand that the comics are an excellent test bed for stories. Because of the success of the movies, they can afford to run the comics at no profit or even a slight loss. Comics lets them try out stories like Jane Foster as Thor, and then import that into the much more profitable MCU. Comics can be considered R&D costs.
Warner/DC has never really understood how to capitalize its IP.
I'm not very familiar with this whole 5G event, other than to know it's their latest re-ordering of the DC universe.
So, DC has this whole timeline worked out.
Generation 1 - Dawn of the Heroic Age (aka Age of Mysteries): Wonder Woman (WWII), JSA, Seven Soldiers, etc. up through the Senate hearings that led to the JSA disbanding.
Generation 2 - The Space Age, aka Age of the Metahuman. Looks like that runs up to the late '80s, ending with the COIE.
Generation 3 - The Age of Crisis. Appears to end with Flashpoint.
Generation 4 - The Flashpoint, aka Age of Rebirth. Ends with...basically that preview at the end of Doomsday Clock #12. If you didn't see that:
2020 - "Superman's timeline is bombarded by the reckless energies of the old gods, once again warping the metaverse."
Generation 5 - Age of the Future
July 2025 - A Crisis unlike any the metaverse has seen, one they will call 'Time Masters' erupts, but in its wake Superman is revitalized. And his greatest allies return."
January 2026 - "The timeline is restored. And Earth-5G is born."
June 2026 - "Superman goes on a quest to find Bruce Wayne's lost daughter...so shed can save Bruce's son."
July 2030 - "The "Secret Crisis" begins, throwing Superman into a brawl across the universe with Thor himself...and a green behemoth stronger than even Doomsday, who dies protecting Superman from these invaders. In its wake, Superman's timeline shifts forward again..."
Anyway. Obviously some or all of the details could change before anything hits the shelf, but insider talk was apparently that Jonathan Kent takes over as Superman, Luke Fox as Batman, Captain Boomerang's kid as the Flash, possibly Sojourner "Jo" Mullein (the GL of Far Sector) as the main Green Lantern of Earth...
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Marvel seems to understand that the comics are an excellent test bed for stories. Because of the success of the movies, they can afford to run the comics at no profit or even a slight loss. Comics lets them try out stories like Jane Foster as Thor, and then import that into the much more profitable MCU. Comics can be considered R&D costs.
Warner/DC has never really understood how to capitalize its IP.
This, I think, is a good point. Time-Warner seemed to be just as much of a telcomm and media company as it was an entertainment company. AT&T is primarily a telcomm. Disney, on the other hand, and Marvel before it, were pretty much nothing but entertainment, especially geared towards a younger audience.
Because of that, in part, I think Marvel/Disney has been better at spreading the love to more characters. Time-Warner mostly focused (and continues to focus) on Superman and Batman.
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I'm not very familiar with this whole 5G event, other than to know it's their latest re-ordering of the DC universe.So, DC has this whole timeline worked out.
Generation 1 - Dawn of the Heroic Age (aka Age of Mysteries): Wonder Woman (WWII), JSA, Seven Soldiers, etc. up through the Senate hearings that led to the JSA disbanding.
Generation 2 - The Space Age, aka Age of the Metahuman. Looks like that runs up to the late '80s, ending with the COIE.
Generation 3 - The Age of Crisis. Appears to end with Flashpoint.
Generation 4 - The Flashpoint, aka Age of Rebirth. Ends with...basically that preview at the end of Doomsday Clock #12. If you didn't see that:
2020 - "Superman's timeline is bombarded by the reckless energies of the old gods, once again warping the metaverse."
Generation 5 - Age of the Future
July 2025 - A Crisis unlike any the metaverse has seen, one they will call 'Time Masters' erupts, but in its wake Superman is revitalized. And his greatest allies return."
January 2026 - "The timeline is restored. And Earth-5G is born."
June 2026 - "Superman goes on a quest to find Bruce Wayne's lost daughter...so shed can save Bruce's son."
July 2030 - "The "Secret Crisis" begins, throwing Superman into a brawl across the universe with Thor himself...and a green behemoth stronger than even...
I recognize some of those quotes from Doomsday Clock. I figured they had a greater point to make with that sloth-scheduled series, but was mostly ignoring what it could have been.
All in all, it sounds craptastic. Which is what I would expect from something DiDio had a hand in planning.
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Because of that, in part, I think Marvel/Disney has been better at spreading the love to more characters. Time-Warner mostly focused (and continues to focus) on Superman and Batman.
Disney seems to be much more aggressive (and successful) about courting foreign markets (especially China) and younger markets, with their increasingly brown and female demographics. They've done, IMO, a much better job of keeping up with the times and recognizing that there's money out there to be won from audiences that aren't 45 year old white dudes. DC lucked out in that they have *the* signature female hero in Wonder Woman, but, beyond that, kind of flounders at pushing past their 'let's relaunch Superman and Batman for the 27 billionth time!' nostalgia, and seems stuck at 'let's make a girl Superman, let's make a black Batman!' for their ideas on new diverse characters.
That said, DC's TV game is on. Titans, Doom Patrol, all the WB shows like Legends, Batwoman, Black Lightning, etc. are just a *flood* of superhero options I can barely even keep up with, growing up in a desert of options that included the Hulk and Wonder Woman, and that's it, *for decades.* It's a golden age. :)
I just wish they could catch fire on the movie side, and showcase some characters like Vixen or Booster Gold or Big Barda. Less 'big three,' more 'who the hell asked for a movie about Deadpool or Rocket Raccoon? (and why did they make all the money?)'
I always asked for Deadpool as a movie...I just didn't think I'd ever get Rocket before the next Avengers film...
But yeah it does seem that Marvel and/or Disney is willing to try a few new things to see how they might work to garner younger viewers.
Mostly right now I'm waiting to see if DC can figure out how to do better with people not named Superman, Batman and/or Wonder Woman...
Yesh. Doomsday Clock was average with some inspired bits that would have ended fine with it just shuffled off. But beating the Dr.Manhattan Horse more just makes me shake my head on how stagnant comics are and I've pretty much dropped everything as past favorites have finished their run.
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Disney seems to be much more aggressive (and successful) about courting foreign markets (especially China) and younger markets, with their increasingly brown and female demographics. They've done, IMO, a much better job of keeping up with the times and recognizing that there's money out there to be won from audiences that aren't 45 year old white dudes.
Exactly. Disney has mastered the art of maximizing their potential audience. The upcoming Eternals movie is a good example, I think. We have a property pretty much unknown outside of comic book fans, so Disney puts together a diverse cast and makes some other content announcements to draw in the non-comic book fans. Luckily, from past experience, we also know the writing and directing will probably be pretty solid as well, since it's Disney.
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That said, DC's TV game is on. Titans, Doom Patrol, all the WB shows like Legends, Batwoman, Black Lightning, etc. are just a *flood* of superhero options I can barely even keep up with, growing up in a desert of options that included the Hulk and Wonder Woman, and that's it, *for decades.* It's a golden age. :)
And, lest we forget, their animated movie franchise is really successful as well. I'd even say the animated movies are superior to most of the live action movies.
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…..how stagnant comics are and I've pretty much dropped everything as past favorites have finished their run.
Yeah, there definitely is a good bit of stagnation out there. I think it's more hitting DC right now. I've dropped a ton of DC books over the last few years.
Marvel is doing a bit better, I think. Especially over the last year and half. I've actually been increasing the number of their books I get.
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Exactly. Disney has mastered the art of maximizing their potential audience. The upcoming Eternals movie is a good example, I think. We have a property pretty much unknown outside of comic book fans, so Disney puts together a diverse cast and makes some other content announcements to draw in the non-comic book fans. Luckily, from past experience, we also know the writing and directing will probably be pretty solid as well, since it's Disney.
One advantage to using such lesser tier characters as the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Eternals, is that they can tweak them pretty far from their comic book versions, without outraging a million Batman fans for 'getting it wrong.'
Various Eternals are going to be portrayed by actors of different genders or ethnicities, and it's no big deal (save perhaps to that one superfan of Makarri or Ajak). :)
(Heck, I'm a huge Moondragon fan, and if James Gunn had chosen to riff off of Nebula's statement to Gamora in the first movie, 'Of all our sisters, I hated you least.' and made Drax's presumed-dead daughter Kymera into the MCU Moondragon, yet another 'daughter of Thanos' with mental powers from exposure to the Mind Stone (which we know can grant people powers, since it did to the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, and Thanos possessed long before Hydra did), I would have been delighted to see even a gray-skinned red-tattooed 'daughter of Thanos' version of Moondragon on the big screen! (Plus the idea of a half-dozen or so 'daughters of Thanos' taking the place of the deadly dull Black Order in the later Avengers movies would, IMO, have been much cooler.))
It's possibly one reason why I find Doom Patrol or the Teen Titans so much more entertaining than the last run of Superman or Batman movies. Using smaller characters, DC seems braver and more willing to go in new directions, and tell more modern stories with updated versions of these old characters. They can make Negative Man gay, or Starfire black, and it's not burned the internet down.
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I was not sure about Starfire in Titans but the actress did a fantastic job. The series turned out much better than I thought it would.
FYI, I like the Black Order, but the MCU versions aren't nearly as powerful as their comic counterparts. I mean Supergiant could make peoples HEADS explode! :)
As for dancing in a comic book store for the passing Didio...I mean I dance when I want to...
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I wouldn't normally share an article from this website, but the title caught my eye. I appreciate Johns a (very) little more, knowing we share a favorite Flash.
Geoff Johns talks The Flash #750, Captain Cold and why Wally West is his favorite Flash
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I was not sure about Starfire in Titans but the actress did a fantastic job. The series turned out much better than I thought it would.
Agreed. I have never cared one whit for Hawk and Dove in the comics, and yet the on-screen duo have an interesting arc (and are played by decent actors). I am amused that there's no Cyborg on this Titans show, since he's both in the Justice League and on Doom Patrol, and even appeared on Smallville, back in the day, making him probably the most prolific 'Teen Titan' in live-action, and the only one to not appear here. :)
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Well it's nice to hear from Geoff after being semi-MIA while doing other things.
And yes jeff, if they HAD their own movie then perhaps it would have been better.
It has the benefit of being one of the better takes on Batman and the DCAU. :)
BATMAN: THE ADVENTURES CONTINUE Returns to ’90s Cartoon
COOL!
Great news. Now just give Bruce Timm and Paul Dini the job of making the DC Movies and it would be perfect. But that would make too much sense^^
Yeah well...not everything Bruce and Paul does is gold. But you are correct about it being better than a certain director who people keep screaming for his cut...
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Watchmen’s Rorschach gets his own ‘angry’ series from Batman writer Tom King
Ye gods! They’re giving that hack King another great character to insult with his drivel.
I've seen chatter that Manhattan's powers are getting casually passed around so yet another cosmic threat can go 'Woooooooo!'
I've seen chatter that Manhattan's powers are getting casually passed around so yet another cosmic threat can go 'Woooooooo!'
So, "Captain Manhattan - the antihero who could be you?"
I dunno about THAT...but apparently the Batman who Laughs just got a Doctor Manhattan upgrade.
So him and Wally West MIGHT be duking it out in Death Metal...
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DC Comics, DC Universe Hit By Major Layoffs
I can't say I feel sorry for any of them. The only bad news is that Jim Lee kept his job (and was given more work, from what I heard).
I feel sorry for anyone that losses their job. Mostly because I thought finally Death Metal was taking things in a better direction.
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DC's Jim Lee on the Company's Future: "We Are Still in the Business of Publishing Comics"
As many have thought, Lee seems to confirm that, while comics will still be published (though in what form he does not say), they are going to cut down on stuff that doesn't sell.
All in all, I do not have high hopes for the future of DC comics. They already mostly suck, story-wise. All this chaos won't help. And the bean counters at AT&T will probably try and find a way to screw things up.