D'oh!
Plan B it is!
Thanks!
I had thought the anniversary edition was legal, but you're the expert :-)
I will make plan B for Shattered Star.
Plan B, possibly more annoying even!
Rocky the Foxy Boxer
Kitsune brawler 1 (Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide 23, Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 4 175)
CN Medium humanoid (kitsune, shapechanger)
Init +4; Senses low-light vision; Perception +4
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Defense
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AC 16, touch 12, flat-footed 14 (+4 armor, +2 Dex)
hp 13 (1d10+3)
Fort +4, Ref +4, Will +0
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee unarmed strike +4 (1d6+2) or
bite -2 (1d4+1)
Special Attacks martial flexibility 4/day
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +3)
3/day—dancing lights
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Statistics
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Str 15, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 14
Base Atk +1; CMB +3; CMD 15
Feats Improved Unarmed Strike, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
Traits reactionary, serpent runner (intimidate)
Skills Acrobatics +6, Intimidate +6, Perception +4; Racial Modifiers +2 Acrobatics
Languages Common, Sylvan
SQ brawler's cunning, change shape, kitsune magic, manifestation points, ability scores, martial training
Other Gear chain shirt, backpack, bedroll, belt pouch, flint and steel, hemp rope (50 ft.), torch (10), trail rations (5), waterskin, 41 gp
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Special Abilities
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Brawler's Cunning (Ex) Count as Int 13 for the purpose of combat feat pre-requisites.
Change Shape (Su) Assume a single human form.
Combat Reflexes (3 AoO/round) Can make extra attacks of opportunity/rd, and even when flat-footed.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Kitsune Magic Kitsune add 1 to the DCs of any saving throws to resist enchantment spells that they cast.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in dim light, distinguishing color and detail.
Manifestation Points, Ability Scores ([none], 11/psychic duel) Every combatant begins a psychic duel with a pool of MP equal to the combatant’s HD + the average of her Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. As a free action, a combatant can draw from this pool to generate MP. A combatant who draws any numb
Martial Flexibility (move action, 4/day) (Ex) As a Move action, gain a combat feat for 1 min. More gained for greater actions.
Martial Training (Ex) Brawler levels count as fighter/monk levels for feat/item pre-reqs and effects.
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I honestly don't really get point of evil AP if its about facing other evils/LN/CN dicks (or "Good" in alignment only angels) .-. Like, thats not being evil, thats being anti-heroes.
That being said, anti-hero/evil vs LN/Shin Megami Tensei Angels(which pre pretty much LE or LN) would be cool AP too
And to be fair to Glourious Reclamation existing so that Thrune/Cheliax can take them down, a lot of villains groups are built up only to be torn down by heroes. Like, I can't think of any villain group or organization you can redeem to side of non-evil or anything like that, you just kill them all because they are at core irredeemably evil. Maybe some individual characters, but yeah, most BBEG can't be reasoned with. Nualia has tragic backstory, but as written there is no way to redeem her.
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Bingo.
The Glorious Reclamation being generally likeable is a GOOD thing- because it means the scumbags who defeat them are villains.
Any AP to date except Wrath of the Righteous (and even that one, if deftly handled) has room in its scope for anti-heroes. Hell's Vengeance is about being the bad guys. You're not the lesser evil, you're not misunderstood, you're absolute scum.
None of which means anyone has to LIKE it, but... complaining that the PCs in HV are too irredeemably evil is like saying the drivers at the Indy 500 are driving too fast.
...None of which means anyone has to LIKE it, but... complaining that the PCs in HV are too irredeemably evil is like saying the drivers at the Indy 500 are driving too fast.
Well, they do! I once saw one of those guys run over a bunny!
Tammy thinks Wrath of the Righteous turns into a Suicide Squad situation so easily.
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Hmmmmm...
What would you think of a "sequel" AP—like Shattered Star was to Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, and Second Darkness—to Hell's Rebels and Hell's Vengeance in which heroes out of Kintargo rebuild the Glorious Reclamation?
Knowing the events of the two previous APs, they would have a chance of succeeding where the original Reclamation failed.
Ooo, I like this!
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I honestly don't really get point of evil AP if its about facing other evils/LN/CN dicks (or "Good" in alignment only angels) .-. Like, thats not being evil, thats being anti-heroes.
That being said, anti-hero/evil vs LN/Shin Megami Tensei Angels(which pre pretty much LE or LN) would be cool AP too
And to be fair to Glourious Reclamation existing so that Thrune/Cheliax can take them down, a lot of villains groups are built up only to be torn down by heroes. Like, I can't think of any villain group or organization you can redeem to side of non-evil or anything like that, you just kill them all because they are at core irredeemably evil. Maybe some individual characters, but yeah, most BBEG can't be reasoned with. Nualia has tragic backstory, but as written there is no way to redeem her.
Except those other groups and villains tend to have established histories and build up outside their respective APs.
And again, I don't have a problem with Evil vs Good, it's I want to play a Evil character, and NOT be a douchebag while I do it.
And uh, yeah you can redeem Nualia, my group did it :3
There's plenty of material presented in Burnt Offerings to give your players a chance to redeem her. Just because there's not an explicit side quest stated in the book to do so doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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Bingo.
The Glorious Reclamation being generally likeable is a GOOD thing- because it means the scumbags who defeat them are villains.
Any AP to date except Wrath of the Righteous (and even that one, if deftly handled) has room in its scope for anti-heroes. Hell's Vengeance is about being the bad guys. You're not the lesser evil, you're not misunderstood, you're absolute scum.
None of which means anyone has to LIKE it, but... complaining that the PCs in HV are too irredeemably evil is like saying the drivers at the Indy 500 are driving too fast.
And I don't want to play absolute scum, I want to actually enjoy the character I'm playing and the game I'm in.
I use It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia as my guide for Hell's Vengeance. :-)
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Hmm, well, I think redeeming Nualia during book one at least should be really really hard xD
Anyway, thats a good point .-. I guess Paizo didn't want to have established good guy order taken down because if players play another AP within same continuity, that would give them less good guy options?*shrugs* Anyway, yeah, it'd be cooler if good guy organization would be one we know now that I think about it.
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On a lighter note, does Inner Sea Races mention The Brightness.
I have an Elven Medium for Hell's Rebels that tries to channel The Brightness, but only gets dead people.
So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
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So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
I dunno, it would vary from person to person I guess, but in my opinion, I guess they would just have to be likeable.
So take HV, I don't like what it has you do, and I don't like your allies, whereas I DO like the antagonists. So going off that right there my first thoughts aren't "Gee, I don't like anything about this AP, imam gon play it!"
"Certain philosophies, like the path to self-perfection known as the Brightness, have more structured traditions."
That's all you get. ^_^
That's... annoying. :-)
Edit: but thanks just the same. :-)
So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
here is some evil i can get behind in pictures if you will
the operative
loki
scar
LU BU
Kefka
just some examples in my case and opinion.. I guess some people would just find being murderous scumbags cool too >^.^<
Follow up Elf question.
How do they age. By that I mean, are they teenagers for decades or what. I've never actually had an Elf before ever, as I found them.. boring, so I never really looked into that, just went by what Homeland did with Drizz't, but I'm guessing that's changed.
I can always swing by a gamestore and check it out later too if it's really complicated or hard to explain. :-)
The main reason I ask is, said Elf has a French name, but Galt has only been in a revolutionary state for fifty years, so I need to understand what level of emotional growth he was at when it began, when he was in his seventies. And how, after all these years of bloodshed he can remain so positive. :-)
Personality wise, I'm combining Earl's friend in My Name is Earl who would ask his Jesus tattoo for guidance. And Mister Fishoeder from Bob's Burgers. Or something like that. :-)
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Follow up Elf question.
How do they age. By that I mean, are they teenagers for decades or what. I've never actually had an Elf before ever, as I found them.. boring, so I never really looked into that, just went by what Homeland did with Drizz't, but I'm guessing that's changed.
I can always swing by a gamestore and check it out later too if it's really complicated or hard to explain. :-)
The main reason I ask is, said Elf has a French name, but Galt has only been in a revolutionary state for fifty years, so I need to understand what level of emotional growth he was at when it began, when he was in his seventies. And how, after all these years of bloodshed he can remain so positive. :-)
Personality wise, I'm combining Earl's friend in My Name is Earl who would ask his Jesus tattoo for guidance. And Mister Fishoeder from Bob's Burgers. Or something like that. :-)
Dunno, never really been all that interested in elves.
Sic'ing 2 lesser shadows (with advanced simple template) and 1 adjusted shadow with 15 feet reach at my lvl 5, 5 PC party.
Do you anticipate some panic?
:)
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Follow up Elf question.
How do they age. By that I mean, are they teenagers for decades or what. I've never actually had an Elf before ever, as I found them.. boring, so I never really looked into that, just went by what Homeland did with Drizz't, but I'm guessing that's changed.
The main reason I ask is, said Elf has a French name, but Galt has only been in a revolutionary state for fifty years, so I need to understand what level of emotional growth he was at when it began, when he was in his seventies. And how, after all these years of bloodshed he can remain so positive. :-)
The books are a bit vague on this. Inner Sea Races says:
"As some of the longest-lived humanoids on Golarion, elves do not reach physical maturity until their eighth or ninth decade, and are not seen as adults until about age 110."
I'd go with the "teenagers for decades" thing.
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Follow up Elf question.
How do they age. By that I mean, are they teenagers for decades or what. I've never actually had an Elf before ever, as I found them.. boring, so I never really looked into that, just went by what Homeland did with Drizz't, but I'm guessing that's changed.
The main reason I ask is, said Elf has a French name, but Galt has only been in a revolutionary state for fifty years, so I need to understand what level of emotional growth he was at when it began, when he was in his seventies. And how, after all these years of bloodshed he can remain so positive. :-)
The books are a bit vague on this. Inner Sea Races says:
"As some of the longest-lived humanoids on Golarion, elves do not reach physical maturity until their eighth or ninth decade, and are not seen as adults until about age 110."
I'd go with the "teenagers for decades" thing.
#thankyeKali
Yeah, thanks!
Lots of ideas now. :-)
So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
here is some evil i can get behind in pictures if you will
the operative
loki
scar
LU BU
Kefkajust some examples in my case and opinion.. I guess some people would just find being murderous scumbags cool too >^.^<
Man... Kefka's like, the poster boy for "douchebag evil."
Which supports the closing sentence: Different strokes for different folks. We just dipped our toes in HV yesterday, and I'm already seriously enjoying my players' evil party because they're not blindly murderous- our slayer is actually downright considerate to Cimri and her troubles with her aunt, for example- but they're still utterly ruthless scum in the pursuit of their mission.
So Rysky, what do you hate the least about Vegas?
*The cheesy nature of the city?
*The evil predation on the mathematically challenged?
*The infernal outside temperature?
*The overpriced cocktails with little umbrellas?
>:)
How many stage shows do you anticipate having to sit through.
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So Rysky, what do you hate the least about Vegas?
*The cheesy nature of the city?
*The evil predation on the mathematically challenged?
*The infernal outside temperature?
*The overpriced cocktails with little umbrellas?>:)
I'm gonna go with the D, seeing how as long you or someone you're with is gambling you get drinks for free (my mom gambles, I drink) :3
Haven't really seen anything overtly "cheesy", the Bellagio was f~!$ing gorgeous! Also it was hilarious seeing how tiny the Gold & Silver Pawn Shop from Pawn Stars actually is XD
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So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
LG should be something like Paragon Shepard from Mass Effect <_< Its not alignment's & paladins' fault that players interpret it as "Complaining about everything non lawful and reacting with violence" xP
Actually, come to think about it: What is your guys' experiences of Paladin players? Like, does everyone play them in exact same way, or have you seem some truly outrageous paladins?
If by outrageous you mean paladins who act like bloodraging barbarians but claim to be a paladin then yes I have seen them, I love paladins they are probably my favorite class and they are more... expansive than people give them credit for.
I've always tended to play my paladins as those who lead by example, but dont hold it against someone if they cant live up to the standards set before them.
Actually, come to think about it: What is your guys' experiences of Paladin players? Like, does everyone play them in exact same way, or have you seem some truly outrageous paladins?
Homeless veteran living in an alleyway, tormented because the Voices tell him not to associate with the Evil Ones, dedicated to doing good in his own fashion....
The next Paladin I make will be the first. And probably the last... in fact, I doubt I'd ever have a Paladin, even in Wrath of the Righteous. :-)
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So....what is 'cool' evil as oppose to douchebag evil? That is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around as well being evil is being a douchebag to a certain degree.
Also....in my experience LG tend to be the biggest douchebags around...so really this is to me at worst douchebag vs douchebag.
Also I think I finally have a slighter better answer to this. I rather play as Ragnar Lodbrok than as Ramsey Snow.
Another topic...
Whip, riding crop, cat o' nine tails, paddle or hand?
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Another topic...
Whip, riding crop, cat o' nine tails, paddle or hand?
Sounds like another day at the local temple of Calistria.
I tie off a hand and crop and whip to my dog of nine tails so i can have all of them handy at once *nods*
Did I leave anything off that list from my previous post?
Tawse. Slipper, tennis shoe or ruler, for the more traditionally minded.
EDIT: Or if you're a marilith (or Hextor) , you can employ all of 'em at once
Technically a domme. :-)