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And this morning's crop has been flagged.

FWIW, almost every other forum I know of has some sort of moderator vetting required to join and post. I hate to pile work on the mods here at Paizo, but it looks like these *******s are not going away, and are intent on exploiting the flaws in the current system. Something needs to be done.


Is it possible to:
Have a delay to display posts for new accounts?
For posts of new accounts that have url text/ non Western characters?
Not allow new accounts to post urls at all ?

Or institute a test for new posters, link them up with another online at the same time who has a solid post history, and let them be interviewed rove legitimate interest in Paizo/rpgs etc. Exisuserting users could opt in or out of said system, or put a limit on how many times per week they want to be prompted, etc.


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Sigh...you know, I come here for a break from reality...not to spend half my available time here clicking on 'breaks other guidelines'!


They're slipping in under the wire, flag at will!

Edit: Found them down in Forum Games too.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

They're swarming.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

I'm tapping out - I've been flagging pretty much nonstop since that last post.

It's exhausting...

Liberty's Edge

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Yeah, it's really getting out of control (and sort of depressing). They've obviouy figured out to flood multiple forums with this crap in the morning before the Paizo staff gets in and then in the evening after they leave.

The sheer amount of spam I encounter each morning and again each evening is making it very tough to want to even come to the forums any more (or at least only during Paizo's business hours)

Paizo folks, PLEASE do something. The 'just flag them each day so we can get rid of them when we get in each morning) approach just isn't working any more

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

I have a pretty high tolerance for this stuff... but even so, it's getting overwhelming in its volume.


Aaaaauuuuggggghhhh!

There's so many of them I can't remember which ones I've already flagged until I pull them up!

Oh, and the 'love spell' folks are back as well. They're breeding!

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber
Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Aaaaauuuuggggghhhh!

There's so many of them I can't remember which ones I've already flagged until I pull them up!

That's what eventually got me...

Liberty's Edge

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Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Marc Radle wrote:

Yeah, it's really getting out of control (and sort of depressing). They've obviouy figured out to flood multiple forums with this crap in the morning before the Paizo staff gets in and then in the evening after they leave.

The sheer amount of spam I encounter each morning and again each evening is making it very tough to want to even come to the forums any more (or at least only during Paizo's business hours)

Paizo folks, PLEASE do something. The 'just flag them each day so we can get rid of them when we get in each morning) approach just isn't working any more

Yes, I'm in full agreement. Perhaps moderating the first two posts for new users might be slightly off-putting for newcomers, but I don't think that having the forums swamped by spam will make a better impression.


Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Aaaaauuuuggggghhhh!

There's so many of them I can't remember which ones I've already flagged until I pull them up!

I hide them as I flag.

BTW, Is there a counter of how many posts we've flagged?

Shadow Lodge

Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

It's part of my morning ritual now...get up, check the forums while eating breakfast, flag spam.


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Maybe the simplest solution would be to hire night shift board monitors just for spam - or even (if off site options are available) some monitors in say Hawaii and Europe to take over once the main Paizo crew leaves after the (Pacific coast) work day ends.

Sczarni

I am willing to work overnight for decent pay to find and remove spam.

Sczarni

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Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
I am willing to work overnight for decent pay to find and remove spam.

Even willing to work from home.


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Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Aaaaauuuuggggghhhh!

There's so many of them I can't remember which ones I've already flagged until I pull them up!

Oh, and the 'love spell' folks are back as well. They're breeding!

...you mean their product worked?


Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
I am willing to work overnight for decent pay to find and remove spam.
Even willing to work from home.

Ditto. It's probably still better than part-time Big Lots.


The General Discussion forums are filled with spam. Too many to flag.


I got a bunch of them, John.

I seriously HATE whoever's behind this.

Community & Digital Content Director

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This morning's wave is crushed. I have some thoughts about a more aggressive solution to this problem, and will bring it to one of our internal moots to see if it can be done sooner than later. I really don't like that our community is having to deal with this, but appreciate your patience and help in isolating these accounts.


Thank you, Chris.


Chris Lambertz wrote:
This morning's wave is crushed. I have some thoughts about a more aggressive solution to this problem, and will bring it to one of our internal moots to see if it can be done sooner than later. I really don't like that our community is having to deal with this, but appreciate your patience and help in isolating these accounts.

We appreciate your help in making our Monday evenings fun and enjoyable. If spending a few hours flagging posts is part of the price that needs to be paid,... well, let me just say that I suspect you could call upon the community to do more if it would help.


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Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Maybe the simplest solution would be to hire night shift board monitors just for spam - or even (if off site options are available) some monitors in say Hawaii and Europe to take over once the main Paizo crew leaves after the (Pacific coast) work day ends.

I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.

I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.

This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.

Community Manager

Orfamay Quest wrote:

I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.

I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.

This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.

We've discussed having volunteer moderators in the past, and there are a lot of reasons why we won't do it (one of them being the reasons you pointed out).

Regardless, thank you to the community for identifying the spam posters—you are certainly not required to do it, nor should you feel you have to, and your aid is appreciated!


Orfamay Quest wrote:
Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Maybe the simplest solution would be to hire night shift board monitors just for spam - or even (if off site options are available) some monitors in say Hawaii and Europe to take over once the main Paizo crew leaves after the (Pacific coast) work day ends.

I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.

I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.

This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.

And if it's reviewed at a later point by mods it's easy enough to boot the volunteer spamcop.

It's been suggested and shot down before though.


thejeff wrote:


It's been suggested and shot down before though.

Oh, of course. On the other hand, the spam problem seems to be getting worse over time, so a solution that was unacceptable then may be due for reevaluation now.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
thejeff wrote:


It's been suggested and shot down before though.

Oh, of course. On the other hand, the spam problem seems to be getting worse over time, so a solution that was unacceptable then may be due for reevaluation now.

It was also shot down again while I was typing :)


The last wave was too much for ol' MBT. They got me good. Tell my wife that I *cough*....*dies*


They come again.


Message board troll wrote:
The last wave was too much for ol' MBT. They got me good. Tell my wife that I *cough*....*dies*

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

*casts animate dead on Message board troll*

Go forth and fight the spammers.


I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???


How likely is it that a non spam post would collect say, 5 or 10 "this is spam" posts?


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Quandary wrote:

I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???

The posts from the scammers will still exist in that case, and all they're really after is more hits on Google. Giving them their own subforum will just make the matter worse.

I'd rather not enable their nonsense.


Quandary wrote:

I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???

If they could autofilter them, they'd autofilter them into the bit bucket, not a subforum.


Ok, I'm back for the evening watch

Dark Archive

They're starting up in General Discussion...


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Yep I'm in there slogging thru the sweltering summer on the Korean front. Hope my kindle doesn't overheat, or I'm a goner


Also Flagging in General Discussion...

Wolves unite!

Liberty's Edge

Flagging in General Discussion. I got six so far.

I used to help a friend with his now vanished radio show and spent a weekend monitoring his boards. I am grateful that this board does not allow images to appear.


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Also Flagging in General Discussion...

Wolves unite!

We need more wolves in order to activate the colossal mecha battle wolf mode!


William Ronald wrote:
Flagging in General Discussion. I got six so far.

Don't worry little brother....there are more

grins with long sharp teeth and turns back to the forums

Dark Archive

Alright guys, it's midnight over here and I need to get up in the morning for work, so I'm going to go to bed and pick up again when I wake up ('cause we all know they'll still be posting). Keep up the good work!


Rest well brave soldier, us west coasters still have some more time tonight to prowl in search of our unsuspecting prey.

I think I chipped a tooth on that last wave.

Power 72% and dropping fast

Activating stealth

Going back in

Shadow Lodge

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Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

I don't even know what forum they're in...I tend to just watch the sidefeed.


PACK FLANK!


General Discussion is going down! I'm squashing them fast as I can!


In there! Stay strong!!!


PACK ATTACK!!!


Appreciate the help. Mice aren't designed for this.

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