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And this morning's crop has been flagged.
FWIW, almost every other forum I know of has some sort of moderator vetting required to join and post. I hate to pile work on the mods here at Paizo, but it looks like these *******s are not going away, and are intent on exploiting the flaws in the current system. Something needs to be done.
Quandary |
Is it possible to:
Have a delay to display posts for new accounts?
For posts of new accounts that have url text/ non Western characters?
Not allow new accounts to post urls at all ?
Or institute a test for new posters, link them up with another online at the same time who has a solid post history, and let them be interviewed rove legitimate interest in Paizo/rpgs etc. Exisuserting users could opt in or out of said system, or put a limit on how many times per week they want to be prompted, etc.
Kalindlara Contributor |
Marc Radle |
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Yeah, it's really getting out of control (and sort of depressing). They've obviouy figured out to flood multiple forums with this crap in the morning before the Paizo staff gets in and then in the evening after they leave.
The sheer amount of spam I encounter each morning and again each evening is making it very tough to want to even come to the forums any more (or at least only during Paizo's business hours)
Paizo folks, PLEASE do something. The 'just flag them each day so we can get rid of them when we get in each morning) approach just isn't working any more
Kalindlara Contributor |
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Nikosandros |
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Yeah, it's really getting out of control (and sort of depressing). They've obviouy figured out to flood multiple forums with this crap in the morning before the Paizo staff gets in and then in the evening after they leave.
The sheer amount of spam I encounter each morning and again each evening is making it very tough to want to even come to the forums any more (or at least only during Paizo's business hours)
Paizo folks, PLEASE do something. The 'just flag them each day so we can get rid of them when we get in each morning) approach just isn't working any more
Yes, I'm in full agreement. Perhaps moderating the first two posts for new users might be slightly off-putting for newcomers, but I don't think that having the forums swamped by spam will make a better impression.
Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
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This morning's wave is crushed. I have some thoughts about a more aggressive solution to this problem, and will bring it to one of our internal moots to see if it can be done sooner than later. I really don't like that our community is having to deal with this, but appreciate your patience and help in isolating these accounts.
Orfamay Quest |
This morning's wave is crushed. I have some thoughts about a more aggressive solution to this problem, and will bring it to one of our internal moots to see if it can be done sooner than later. I really don't like that our community is having to deal with this, but appreciate your patience and help in isolating these accounts.
We appreciate your help in making our Monday evenings fun and enjoyable. If spending a few hours flagging posts is part of the price that needs to be paid,... well, let me just say that I suspect you could call upon the community to do more if it would help.
Orfamay Quest |
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Maybe the simplest solution would be to hire night shift board monitors just for spam - or even (if off site options are available) some monitors in say Hawaii and Europe to take over once the main Paizo crew leaves after the (Pacific coast) work day ends.
I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.
I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.
This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.
Liz Courts Community Manager |
I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.
I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.
This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.
We've discussed having volunteer moderators in the past, and there are a lot of reasons why we won't do it (one of them being the reasons you pointed out).
Regardless, thank you to the community for identifying the spam posters—you are certainly not required to do it, nor should you feel you have to, and your aid is appreciated!
thejeff |
Spiral_Ninja wrote:Maybe the simplest solution would be to hire night shift board monitors just for spam - or even (if off site options are available) some monitors in say Hawaii and Europe to take over once the main Paizo crew leaves after the (Pacific coast) work day ends.
I suspect there are people who would do it for free if it didn't involve too onerous a time commitment.
I'd be inclined to suggest crowdsourcing. Identify a core group of volunteer spamcops, and when four or more of them jump on a post, it's automatically removed.
This also addresses the "who watches the watchman" issue; if someone decides to go on a vendetta against a real poster and start flagging everything they write, that won't actually have an effect unless there are three other co-vendettae.
And if it's reviewed at a later point by mods it's easy enough to boot the volunteer spamcop.
It's been suggested and shot down before though.
Quandary |
I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???
Dragoncat |
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I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???
The posts from the scammers will still exist in that case, and all they're really after is more hits on Google. Giving them their own subforum will just make the matter worse.
I'd rather not enable their nonsense.
thejeff |
I'm not entirely sure the purpose the spam, whether scamming Google or what, but Our seems like they just want their messages posted on Paizos site... why not auto filter them and move them their own subforum that nobody else has to look at, and that isn't picked up by the sidebar recent post top 10. Doesn't cause a problem for the scammers and doesn't inconvenience real users....???
If they could autofilter them, they'd autofilter them into the bit bucket, not a subforum.