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Sorry, I'm not trying to offend or be part of an argument. I'll not be posting on these forums any longer.


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Freehold DM wrote:
I'm sure the people who attacked the cops are going to be hung by the neck until dead, if they even get arrested. Cops who do the same to civilians rarely see the inside of a courtroom, and the ones that do are given gold plated defense attorneys. You want this to be less us v them? Then stop coming up with sob stories when cops mess up.

I do not disagree. This guy that shot the other officers is a piece of work and anyone that does anything like that too another person should hang. I don't defend him at all and don't want to appear to. The letter of the law gets used to distort the spirit of the law, and justice isn't served. Innocent people on both sides are dieing, needlessly, and I agree with you that if the perpetrators are government workers, police, CIA, NSA, or whatever, they aren't paying for their crimes. That has to change. That doesn't give anyone the right to commit more crimes for payback. I don't think that's a sob story.


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thejeff wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Of course it's not, it just makes it harder for the superiors to take timely action. Like you said, if you, or I, screwed up at work we'd be gone. Can't do that with a union. The idea is to protect people's jobs from bad people and bad situations, but it can unfortunately protect a bad person's job too.

It can, but I don't think it's the real problem. The Blue Wall is far more of an issue and not directly related to unions.

Some protection is needed - cops do face false accusations all the time.

But who built this "Blue Wall", the police or everyone else? It does, as they say, take two to tango. Do we have as much responsibility for the situation as they do?

In the last 3 weeks I've seen reports that there have been 7 or 8 cops murdered. Where's the outraged citizenry? Where's the comfort and call for justice? If all lives matter then please make all of them matter. I saw video of one lady, using the term loosely, being given a ticket for going over 50 thru a school zone, cursing out the officer and telling him how horrible a person he was and that she understood why people would want to murder cops.

I believe Police should not be persecuting citizens for any reason, they should just do their jobs in a legal and professional manner. I believe too that we have the same responsibility to act civilly, respect legitimate authority, and protest abuse. Let's make it better, instead of constantly dividing ourselves into us vs then.


Pretty Noose

Soundgarden


Of course it's not, it just makes it harder for the superiors to take timely action. Like you said, if you, or I, screwed up at work we'd be gone. Can't do that with a union. The idea is to protect people's jobs from bad people and bad situations, but it can unfortunately protect a bad person's job too.


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Save Aranna's niece, save the world


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Freehold DM wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
CBDunkerson wrote:
Policing in the US only attracts bullies and criminals because we have allowed police to get away with being bullies and criminals. If they were held to high standards of professional conduct and jailed (or at the very least fired) at the slightest sign of misconduct then the job wouldn't be at all attractive to the dregs of society that often seek it out now. There ARE still places in the US where the police are decent and professional people. However, so long as police are held to lower standards of behaviour than the population at large many of them will inevitably seek out the job precisely because they aren't fit for decent society without the protection it affords.
It's more than that, though that's part of it. In many places the attitude that the police are like an occupying force and the populace is the enemy is encouraged. Or the police (and the rest of the judicial system) are used to extract revenue from the populace in the form of fines (and penalties for not paying the fines, etc). Or in the form of civil forfeiture.

hm.

When I was mugged, I went to the cops to try to identify the guys. The cops in dealt with were distantly professional, but annoyed that I was interrupting their watching-porn-on-company-time time. They didn't seem upset when I couldn't identify the guys and were all smiles when I left.

There are still a whole lot more good cops than bad ones, but you will only hear about the sensational stories on the news. Even then, good people can go bad. Cops have a hard job, they generally do not get to deal with the best people, as in not many criminals are like the characters on Leverage, and they don't get to deal with people who are at their best, drugged out of their minds, violently angry, dangerously insane, etc.1
I work with many of the same people, and without the ability to defend myself in any way. If I mess up on the job, I get fired. Not time off with pay.

You can thank unions for that. There should be a method to quickly get rid of those that are either incompetent or just plain crazy like this guy, and make sure they can never be a cop again, but it's hard to fire union employees, even in cases like this.


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Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
CBDunkerson wrote:
Policing in the US only attracts bullies and criminals because we have allowed police to get away with being bullies and criminals. If they were held to high standards of professional conduct and jailed (or at the very least fired) at the slightest sign of misconduct then the job wouldn't be at all attractive to the dregs of society that often seek it out now. There ARE still places in the US where the police are decent and professional people. However, so long as police are held to lower standards of behaviour than the population at large many of them will inevitably seek out the job precisely because they aren't fit for decent society without the protection it affords.
It's more than that, though that's part of it. In many places the attitude that the police are like an occupying force and the populace is the enemy is encouraged. Or the police (and the rest of the judicial system) are used to extract revenue from the populace in the form of fines (and penalties for not paying the fines, etc). Or in the form of civil forfeiture.

hm.

When I was mugged, I went to the cops to try to identify the guys. The cops in dealt with were distantly professional, but annoyed that I was interrupting their watching-porn-on-company-time time. They didn't seem upset when I couldn't identify the guys and were all smiles when I left.

There are still a whole lot more good cops than bad ones, but you will only hear about the sensational stories on the news. Even then, good people can go bad. Cops have a hard job, they generally do not get to deal with the best people, as in not many criminals are like the characters on Leverage, and they don't get to deal with people who are at their best, drugged out of their minds, violently angry, dangerously insane, etc.

I work on airplanes, and I know that you only hear the sensational news stories about air travel. Yes, an airplane caught fire in Las Vegas because the engine malfunctioned catastrophically, but did you know that this engine type is the most powerful commercial engine and has over 40 million flight hours as of 2014, and this is the first time for such a catastrophic failure?

I'm not wanting to minimize or defend the bad cops, but please don't paint the whole with a broad brush colored by the vast minority. I lived in ABQ, graduated HS there, and even went to school with and I personally knew Matt Griffin, cop turned "Ninja Bandit" and murderer, but my mom was a dispatcher for the NM State Police (in ABQ), Torrance Co. Sheriff, and other local forces, so I also knew a lot of fine officers, as well as a few bad ones.


Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Rosita: Left is right, right is wrong
Lies and slander. Dogs and cats living together. MASS HYSTERIA.

I always heard it as East is Least, West is Best


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

Judas's Death

Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber

That's my favorite rock opera.

Tatooed Love Boys

The Pretenders


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Freehold DM wrote:

Hung out with CH today.

Here us a breakdown of our time together.

Time spent in greeting- 10%
Time spent catching up- 5%
Time spent talking about FaWtL-15%
Time spent talking about Mass Effect/Dragon Age Inquisition- 70%

Line of the evening -

CH (adlibbing a line from Elcor porn)- With enthusiasm: Harder. Faster.

OMG I almost sprayed my soda across the room when I read this


Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Considering how much everyFAWTL seems to love Mass Effect, FaWtL VII would clearly have to be Mass FaWtL or FaWtL Effect or something.

Man I get so confused by all the Mass Effect talk >_> I might play it one day. Probably not, I've got so many other things on my plate first, and I'm having trouble getting to all of them due to how much time NWN takes up.

I tend to catch up on my other gaming during the every-three-months quarter-end overtime in January, April, July, and October. Just do not have the time during those times to put much time into a highly-social, heavily scheduled game like NWN, so most of the time I take those months off and play other things. I might finish FFIX next month as a result. If I can get anywhere with this danged Chocobo minigame.

Mass Effect is a great story, and is especially cool since choices you make and things you do in the first game effect the second and third games, and choices in the second game also effect the third. It's definitely worth it.


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Ensirio the Longstrider wrote:
SURPRISE! I was the turkey all along!

This is my favorite show.

changes channel
No, this is my favorite show.
changes channel
I love this show.


Mysterious Ways

U2


David M Mallon wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I am having a devil of a time coming up with the color scheme I want for my next playthrough. As per my agreement with CH, I will be playing a vanguard. The first color scheme I did was all white (adept), the second and current was blood red(operative/infiltrator). Since its a vanguard was thinking of mixing two colors. Right now I have the odd idea of royal purple and gold trim, but that sounds Warhammer40kish. Any ideas? What says "vanguard" to you?

I've always thought that the more vibrant armor colors and textures in ME2 & 3 look like absolute crap in-game. Purple and gold sounds OK, though--as long as you keep the colors muted, Shepard won't end up looking like The Phantom.

For my three playthroughs, I went with all white armor for my Soldier, then gray camouflage for my Infiltrator, and finally iridescent purple-gray for my Adept.

Done lots of color combos and mostly play vanguards or infiltrators. I like deep green with red accents for a Christmas-like theme, or medium to dark blue with red or white accents, and there's a dark blue sort of color changing one in there too that looks good. The gold color for the armor came out nice as well. I don't always use patterns, they sometimes just get in the way.


David M Mallon wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I...didn't save miranda. Damn
You have to give her access to the Alliance data, otherwise... Kai Leng
I swear I did. I think I may have answered the questions in the wrong order or something.
Did you do her loyalty mission in ME2?
I did, everyone was loyal.
** spoiler omitted **

I'm not so sure about the romance one. I think I romanced her a couple times in both 2 and 3 and she survived in 3.

Edit: Also If you can't talk her father down or shoot him yourself, even if you warm her about KL, well, you know what happens


I miss my Star Voter Season 9 tag. Where did it go? Sadness.


Freehold DM wrote:
I...didn't save miranda. Damn

You have to give her access to the Alliance data, otherwise... Kai Leng


Games Without Frontiers

Peter Gabriel


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One of my cats, Buddy, passed a couple years ago, he used to jump on my shoulder and ride around on me. My daughter's cat spends as much time with me as he does with her, and my cat Suzy talks to much, but she's a cute tortoise shell calico, so I forgive her.


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David M Mallon wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
The katana is beautiful, but so far has been used for nothing more than to discipline recalcitrant spaghetti squashes or particularly large watermelons
"It can slice a man in two... if you hit him hard enough."

I'm glad he only talks about the katana in that video instead of trying to use it. He holds it like a baseball bat.

Squashes and watermelons are serious offenders. Good to see someone is looking out for us. Bamboo and tatami wrapped around bamboo are the traditional miscreants. I have punished those many times myself.


She Said

Collective Soul


Schwafel Nicht

Stoppok

At least my computer doesn't autocorrect German into English like my Kindle


Asche such Asche

Rammstein


Big Time

Peter Gabriel


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I'll have an order of that too, and the colossal sized fortune cookie


Wollt ihr das bett in flammen sehen

Rammstein


Voting, voting, voting, voting, voting.

Did I mention voting? Lots and lots of voting.

Well, back to voting.


Prince of Darkness, it was weird.

"He's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!"


Sharoth wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Fracking Neverwinter Nights has a compatibility issue with Windows Vista. yay. Now to try and figure out WHERE to get a patch. or something.

>_<

Did you try running it in compatibility mode?
Tried and it still did not work. I also could not get the latest update for it. Fracking Bioware.

Vista, you say? Well, he said pointing under the hood there's your trouble right there.


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The Death of Rats wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
EDIT: Death is a very good dancer by the way. I on the other hand am a clumsy dancer and keep accidentally stepping on his foot. Sorry, death.
SQUEAK.

One of my favorite characters.

RIP Sir Terry


Celestial Healer wrote:

Mass Effect 3 completed.

I think I need a cigarette. And I don't even smoke...

I see the reason they did what they did to Shep, but I would have liked to come out alive. Shep can survive if you have over 4000 points from war assets and choose destruction, but it's not as cool as synthesis


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Ivan Rûski wrote:
So I am no longer in my twenties as of today...not too sure how I feel about that yet.

Wait until your 50s where you see all the gray but still feel like the awkward 14 year old inside. Time is a cruel cruel thing.


David M Mallon wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Skyrim Kills Cap'n Yesterday wrote:
F%!@ yes! tell me about it! Skyrim is the same >:-(
I would venture that DA:I is worse, with Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 on the same level just below it. Granted, I haven't played that many games, but it seems like tiny text is becoming the way of the future.
Hey, I don't have any issues with Mass Effect 3... oops, yeah, I have a 46" TV, sorry, never mind. I'll just go sit down now.
Yeah... mine's a decade-old 24" flatscreen that I fished out of a dumpster.

My monitor is smaller than that, however it is collecting dust because my TV is my monitor now.

Installed Windows 10 Friday night. No issues so far. Only had to fix two minor issues on my daughter's laptop when she upgraded. She couldn't wait to get off Windows 8.1


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Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Diet Dr. Pepper.

Diet? You truly are mad.

Dr Pepper is clearly the superior soda.

I — and a certain world renown zombie that frequents these parts — also prefer regular sugared Dr Pepper above all else.

I should warn you though, by regularly marinating our innards with Dr Pepper, when the Zombpocalypse comes, we will probably be eaten first.

I would rather be considered the ultimate in tastiness than something a zombie would spit out.


D20 Modern has vehicle rules that may help you.


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Turin the Mad wrote:
Diet Dr. Pepper.

Diet? You truly are mad.

Dr Pepper is clearly the superior soda.


David M Mallon wrote:
Skyrim Kills Cap'n Yesterday wrote:
F%!@ yes! tell me about it! Skyrim is the same >:-(
I would venture that DA:I is worse, with Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 on the same level just below it. Granted, I haven't played that many games, but it seems like tiny text is becoming the way of the future.

Hey, I don't have any issues with Mass Effect 3... oops, yeah, I have a 46" TV, sorry, never mind. I'll just go sit down now.


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While I certainly don't want to get into scripture and how it relates to church teaching, I believe he is correctly relating the JW teaching. I have experienced a nearly identical situation in the form of a confrontation from the pastor and elders of a church I used to attend. They explained how participating in role-playing games was not compatible with the church's doctrine because of the violence and magic, and that such participation precluded me from performing any service within the church, and at the time I was playing in the church band during services, and I could not participate in talking communion. There was no alternative, if I wanted to continue to serve in the church and take communion, I would have to give up gaming.

There was no rational explanation as to why this pretending that involved violence and magic was bad, or conversely how it was ok for Anthony Hopkins to pretend to be a serial killer/cannibal, or Nicole Williamson to pretend to be Merlin, but not ok for me to pretend to be an elven hero on Friday nights.

Unfortunately attempts to get him involved in a game may simply be seen as tempting him to sin. That could just cause a rift between you as he may think you don't respect his beliefs. From my own experiences, I would suggest you find a different activity that all of you can enjoy.


Headfirst wrote:

Honestly, Pathfinder/D&D could dump the alignment system entirely and I wouldn't miss it one bit. Anything that currently relies on it could easily be redesigned.

For example:


  • Paladins could simply require a code of conduct that includes stuff like protecting the innocent, offering quarter, and tithing gold. Detect evil switches to "Detect Evil Outsiders and Undead" or something more eloquently-titled.

  • Barbarians could just be prohibited from putting skill points in "civilized" skills like Diplomacy and Profession to replace their savage nature and non-lawful restriction.

  • Monks could require 10 minutes of quiet meditation or rigorous practice every morning, sort of like how spellcasters need to prepare spells, to represent their lawful philosophy. If they don't get it, they lose half their ki pool or something.

Then comb through the various deities (and/or each domain individually) and tack on a quick blurb about what each one requires of its empowered followers (re: divine spellcasters). Got the sun domain? Sorry, no stealth for you, Mr. Sunshine. Worship Erastil for that sweet, sweet longbow proficiency? Better have a breakfast of food you hunted yourself if you want to memorize spells. Just spit-balling here, but you get the idea.

The one thing I can't stress enough is to not include anything that directly causes conflicts between players. None of this crap about not being able to associate with criminals, spellcasters, or those that use necromancy. That stuff is always group cooperation poison.

If you eliminate alignment, then why would there be a Detect Evil anything? You can see in your own examples that you've been unable to get away from labeling the concept of alignment, and the reason is that the concept of alignment exists in our everyday lives. Even if you don't want to name it, your examples for the monk and barbarian still espouse it. It's not as easy as you think to throw those concepts out the window.

But let's say you eliminate the concept, then you eliminate the need for anything related to the concept. You've eliminated those labels of good, evil, lawful, and chaotic. Now you need a different mechanic to deal with this like knowing who a Paladin can smite and how he or she can detect those creatures. Do you limit those abilities to a list of names creatures and specific individuals? No more holy water to fight undead, because there's no good to create it. But it gets harder. Why does Iomedae oppose Asmodeus? Political reasons? There's no evil or good, so what is their problem with each other? Can you even use spells like Protection from Evil in another form? What would you protect against?

Eliminating alignment as a class requirement is easy, you house rule that you don't have to have it. Don't write on your character sheet, but I don't think you can just make it disappear.

Alignment isn't the cause of conflicts between players, it's just an excuse for people to act like jerks to each other. I've only been in one game where alignment became an issue, a Paladin used alignment as an excuse to go PvP. If Alignment is ever a problem, is not a class or character problem, it's a player problem.


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Cursed bracer. What a roleplaying opportunity, with the voices in your head, do you follow their instructions or rebel, and do you answer back out loud or get funny looks for your facial expressions that accompany your internal dialogue?

Would you rather play a kobold or a goblin character?


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Getting ready to log off here and finish up another ME2 play through, playing a FemShep. Project Overlord, then off to get the Reaper IFF.


Palkti- A small kitchen tool of indeterminate use, that no-one remembers buying and who's only observed function is to get stuck inside drawers so that you are unable to open the drawer you put it in.

Impatt


Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel


I've thought it would be a cool to take many small changes, so everything looks normal and they can't tell they've actually changed universes, until little things start popping up, more and more until they find the big change is whatever brought them there that they have to deal with as the heroes.


Mine is from my very first Champions character, and he got that name because that was one of my favorite Marvel characters from back in the day.


Sharoth wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Ars Technica looks really interesting. Anyone know of any other good tech sites like this?
I like BGR
Thanks Manwolf. And welcome to the Controlled Chaos Testing and Research Thread.

Thank you for the welcome. I am well experienced in chaos, I work in aviation. Those black boxes don't fix themselves you know.

Freehold DM wrote:

indeed Manwolf, forgive my rudeness in not welcoming you sooner.

Please observe the all important rules of the thread, such as no discussion of politics, religion, or sports, and being naked if you are the first post in the thread.

Snacks are available at the concession stand.

No smoking is allowed in the thread itself.

Please do not block the doorways or exits.

May you enjoy many boobs to the head while you are here.

We thank you for choosing FAWTL.

Thank you, I wander hither and yon thru the forests of the forums, popping in to see what is interesting and perhaps interject an interesting or useless comment.

I don't discuss politics, I think it's worse than poking into the Rules Questions threads (however I still do that, but mostly just watch from behind large trees, where it's safer). Religion I think shouldn't matter, that's a personal choice, so whatever floats your boat is fine with me. Sports is only a sporadic interest, no fanaticism there for me. Wow, I'm really boring. I didn't notice that it had become that bad :-P

Since you already mentioned it, I'm all for nudity, a staunch proponent for it in fact, and will gladly take a boob to the head for my fellow pathfinders.

I promise to stand near, but not immediately in front of, any useful exit, just in case things get hairy. Well hairier than usual. It's a full moon tonight isn't it? Uh, oh. Where's that exit again?

Limeylongears wrote:
Just so you know, Manwolf, the ban on sports discussion does not include games popular on the wrong side of the Atlantic, such as Murglethigh, Off-Dirt Horse Gauchle, Westmoreland Crab Hinting (Amalgamated and Confederated rules) and Blarking the Synge.

Um... OK, no problem. I'll add those to the "do not mention, under ANY circumstances, and we really, really mean it this time" file.


Sharoth wrote:
Ars Technica looks really interesting. Anyone know of any other good tech sites like this?

I like BGR


If you're going to continue reducing spam like this, your going to have to come up with a new forum game for us so we don't get bored.

If you're still looking for stickers for the hammer, you have to get a Monster sticker don't you?


David M Mallon wrote:
Second day of (paid) work involved spending 7 hours fitting pipe in a muddy ditch on the side of a gigantic bare dirt hill. 95-100 degrees outside, not a cloud in the sky (unless you count massive clouds of dust), and wearing our contractor-mandated rubberized yellow vests and dark blue hard hats. Between the three electricians on the job, we killed a 30-pack of bottled water in about four hours. I feel like a baked potato.

Those kinds of jobs are why I learned to work on electronics and gyroscopes for aircraft. I was forced to be in an environmentally controlled room with regular lunch and breaktimes. It was rough, but I managed.

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