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So I bought EE for my wife and I during the kickstarter. We're thinking about playing but don't know really what there is to do in the game. When we played Alpha before we just ran around for a few evenings and farmed goblins, trained some skills (which we didn't really understand what they did), and never got into crafting because it seemed difficult to get started with. I logged in last weekend and there was no tutorial quest, I was outside of a town with trainers (selling an obtuse number of skills). I don't want to have to study for hours outside of the game just to get a clue on what to do.
So, is there anything that would be enjoyable for us to do as a duo now? Or is the game still to raw and we should hold off for awhile?
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There is a lot to do, the game has many types of activities to participate: exploration, crafting, trade, combat, politics, settlement construction and management...
A good group can help you find your way, and you can read up on the game with just a little effort and get up to speed just withe these three references:
GW New Players Guide
Spitfires Guide
Cheatles Guide
(On mobile, someone please add links)
If you have any questions just ask, we are a mostly friendly group of players eager to help new players enjoy PFO. :)
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I have been studying this game for days and weeks, and only just found out there is actually a way to split stacks, that apparently nobody knew about exept Randomwalker. :)
To adress one issue: everything pretty much has tooltips now, so that makes a difference. You will still need to look up stuff to really see what it is doing.
Your mileage may vary. There is the War of the Towers now, but before you want to dive into that you may want to build your character first for a few days so that means indeed diving into the matter. There are quit a few good guides as to the first steps to take to make a Fighter for instance.
If you are heavily into crafting then Gathering and hunting down recipes and resources should keep you busy for quit a while. And figuring out the interdependencies off course, but there are Guides for that too. Even so, you are right that the learning curve is still steep, also because progression is quit a bit different then your average MMO.
Too tired to look up those guides now, sorry. Ok, I give you the most important link, though the wealth of information may scare you off:
Nihimons shared public data
I am having a lot of fun, but I love crafting. I know others are having fun with the towers so there's that. Lots more people then in Alpha, but not thousands.
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So I bought EE for my wife and I during the kickstarter. We're thinking about playing but don't know really what there is to do in the game. When we played Alpha before we just ran around for a few evenings and farmed goblins, trained some skills (which we didn't really understand what they did), and never got into crafting because it seemed difficult to get started with. I logged in last weekend and there was no tutorial quest, I was outside of a town with trainers (selling an obtuse number of skills). I don't want to have to study for hours outside of the game just to get a clue on what to do.
So, is there anything that would be enjoyable for us to do as a duo now? Or is the game still to raw and we should hold off for awhile?
Not to disencourage you both, but maybe you better wait for the game to be a bit more accessible.
If you played themepark MMO's or single player RPG's before: This one's different. It doesn't have a quest line guiding you through. It's a sandbox, and as such, it reacts to you doing something (in a bigger or smaller scale).Right now, it's little more than minimum viable package. Many things aren't working, or aren't working as they should be, or are just placeholders until the next iteration is implemented. [EDIT] That's not to say the game is unplayable! You can play it without facing major bugs (though there are some), and have fun doing that.
It's Early Access. And that is not for everybody.
If you don't know what to do now, engage the forum (this one or the one on the GW site), look for a company that suits your playstyle, interact with the members of that company.
Or save your gaming time for later.
For me, the game is nice, and to watch (and participate in) the evolution of it is a big part of why I game now.
Having TeamSpeak and a group of folks (The Bloody Hand) to chat with (along with a website where people who have learned things are willing to spoonfeed dweebs like me) has helped me immensely.
I still don't understand 80% of the game mechanics, but I am able to do everything I want to do with great effectiveness. I'm killing mobs and seeing loot I'd never see on my own. I'm gathering resources and getting end products without even having to know how crafting works (though they'd teach me if I cared), and I'm getting the PvP I love against others who seem woefully under-equipped and ineffective (at equal numbers).
I'm not telling you who to join. But I'm suggesting if you join a company, you'll learn faster and you'll quickly develop goals that keep you logging in.
And if you need to keep jumping around until you finally land in a company that suits your needs then so be it. You aren't married to the first company you try.
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Long story short, in a real sandbox game players make the content. ie. they do things that make interesting things for other people to witness or take part in.
I think the long term plan will include more stuff for people to do without having to interact much with other people, but for now the idea is basically you need to find other people and see what they are up to and interact with them as a group.
Well it depends, if you enjoy farming and gathering I would recommend joining one of the more relaxed crafting settlements and gathering resources/farm mobs for them in exchange for the equipment you need to improve your character (and replace stuff you inevitable break), let them worry about the crafting complexities. That's probably the simplest approach. You could also do this without a settlement but you will eventually hit the training cap for NPC Towns and you may have a harder time buying/trading for better gear, it's a bit hard to tell right now.
If you go in the help channel many folks will answer questions and just direct you to what you need to train based on your role preferences. Most settlements will also provide you with some guidance.
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If you have EE and maybe even Destiny's Twin and you have not logged on, it may be a good idea to log on and get the backdated XP, but it will then cost you a month's sub, starting from the day you log in.
Though the XP accumulated even if you do not play that month will be very nice to have when you finally begin to play.
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I logged in last weekend and there was no tutorial quest, I was outside of a town with trainers (selling an obtuse number of skills). I don't want to have to study for hours outside of the game just to get a clue on what to do.
So, is there anything that would be enjoyable for us to do as a duo now? Or is the game still to raw and we should hold off for awhile?
Read the new player guide linked in the patcher. There is a tutorial quest (I think it tells you how to do it in the tutorial guide). Otherwise, ask GMs and other players in the Help chat channel. We are quite patient and reasonably knowledgeable.
As for things to do. Pick a role (fighter, rogue, wizard, cleric) and learn a few of the skills and see how you feel. Go and kill goblins or wolves or bandits. As a duo you should be able to have some fun, and if you logged in at the beginning of EE you should have 1,000s of xp to spend by now. You should also create your Destinies Twin characters to collect their backdated xp, even if you don't want to spend it right now. (Read the GW blog on managing game time and characters.)
Pick a refining skill and/or a craft. Since there are 2 of you, you could pick a complimentary pair of skills e.g. tanning and leatherworking. You learn crafts by going to the appropriate trainer in a town (Press M for Map, then select Settlement when in a settlement). You get recipes for items as loot. You will need to interact with other players to get refined goods for some recipes, but interacting with other players is the point of MMOs.
You should login before 30th of January to have another play around, just so if you don't find you like it you don't eat into your pre-paid play time by logging in after 30th Jan and activating the next month.
On the negative side, if you don't want to spend hours studying outside the game, MMOs are probably not for you. Most of them require some offline study to really understand what you are doing in my experience.
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tl;dr
As above, you make the content. Ask yourself:
1. Do we like combat?
1a. Do we like fighting players?
- join a settlement, fight in tower wars
- make a company with your wife, hold a tower and sell your services to a settlement
- become a bandit/guard (once player looting released)
1b. Do we like fighting NPCs?
- farm escalations as a pair or as organised party
2. Do we like noncombat activity?
- gather/transport (danger, possible combat)
- craft
- politics/leadership (eventually will require in game xp devoted to tasks as well as current traditional guild/event management
- roleplay
Edit: to do any of the above effectively, you are going to have to learn stuff, no way around that. If you are comfortable not being "uber", then there is a lot flexibility. The system is completely forgiving because time always brings you xp if you change your mind
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I would also point you (and any new players, or those looking for some in-game assistance) to the Guide Program where folks like me are offering our time to help anyone as needed. If you are interested, feel free to post in that thread, or PM me, and we can coordinate some time. I'm up for anything from showing you the ropes of crafting to understanding the item/feat/keyword to actually going out into the wilds. I'm happy to escort folks from starter towns to any other settlement, and hopefully can do so without too many PvP issues (at least from folks that recognize the diplomatic role I play). If fighting does break out, I'll protect folks as best I can, which is pretty decent as a Wiz6/Rog3.
See my PM :) But basically what everybody else said, just more specific.
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Having TeamSpeak and a group of folks (The Bloody Hand) to chat with (along with a website where people who have learned things are willing to spoonfeed dweebs like me) has helped me immensely.
Teamspeak aside*, Midnight is right. The game will be much more fulfilling if you have a group to work with. There are things for one or two people to do, but most things require that you at least trade with others to get the pieces you need to do better.
* I don't mean there's anything wrong with Teamspeak. Only that it is one of the options. Some people are using Skype or Mumble, or just chat clients.
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Two players is enough to handle most low level NPC encounters and with judicious juggling you can even get enough refining crafting happening to supply yourself with basic +1 or so items.
However as said above you should join a settlement sooner rather than later. It is not really a solo game and whilst a two person party is viable it is also not really optimal.
Do not jump in though, choose carefully as the settlement you choose (both in terms of location and leadership/membership) will have a big effect on the quality of your gameplay.
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By settlement though, do you all mean company? I'm having a hard time exploring the companies available in game, is there an easier way to see what companies are out there and what they are about? We're looking for the following..
Accepts casuals - we both lead very busy lives and will often only have a few hours per week to play. We do enjoy occasional binge sessions on the weekends, especially if the game is fun :)
Mature - we're late 30's with kids and enjoy playing with other family friendly players.
Must use some sort of voice communication - Teamspeak, Mumble, Ventrillo, whatever, we've used them all.
Mix of PvP / PvE with maybe a slight lean towards PvP - we've spent a lot of time playing LOTRO monster play (years). We enjoy meaningful group vs group battle.
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If you're looking for a good group that works well together, I'd look at four groups (please forgive me if I forgot your group!).
Golgotha, they lean towards evil, but are highly organized and helpful towards their own members. Gol Phyllian is their contact.
Aragon, a merry band of bandits, they are a little controversial but they seem honorable and shrewd. Contact Bluddwolf for more information.
Brighthaven, a good aligned organization trying to create a safe(r) place for PvE types, currently the largest group in the game, highly organized and open to causuals (disclaimer, that's my group). Contact myself, Cheatle, or Lifedragon.
The Emerald Lodge, focusing on being a base camp for the eventual exploration of the Emerald Spire, roleplay as pathfinders, and are trying to remain neutral in the grand scheme of politics. Contact Thod for more information.
If you want more information, or from another source, ask away. Most of us are remarkably helpful towards new players.
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Actually, your requirements almost directly fall in line with Phaeros. We have several members who are very casual and will never require participation or turn anyone away for being casual. The more the merrier, even if you log in a couple hours a week at most. Many of our members have families with young children, and some have children who even play when their parents do. We pretty much constantly have a presence on TeamSpeak in one form or another, and we take down monster escalations regularly. We PvP almost every day now in skirmishes with Golgotha over towers. If you're into roleplaying, several of our members roleplay in local chat frequently, but it's localized enough that those who don't roleplay don't feel compelled to participate in something they don't want to.
Overall, it's a great group and I'm really happy that I joined it. :)
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If you're looking for a good group that works well together, I'd look at four groups (please forgive me if I forgot your group.
What's with the constant discrimination by you elves and humans? The dwarves of Forgeholm are an active and growing presence in the NE mountains. Just because we aren't shooting at our neighbors doesn't mean we are not involved. (Grin)
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Ozem's Vigil is a pretty tight amalgamation of several mature groups that are working smoothly together. We are about 60/40 split between PvE and PvP, with company Invigil focused on fighting mobs and crafting/gathering while Prophecy is general, but likes to PvP a bit more.
while Prophecy is general, but likes to PvP a bit more.
Who are they PvP'ing against?
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while Prophecy is general, but likes to PvP a bit more.Who are they PvP'ing against?
I said like to, not have been successful in finding enough, yet. At the moment, they are trying to find towers to take or defend. They are aware of the NAP. Other than honouring that, They are their own company and I don't police them.
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My wife and I each have 2 characters with Destinys twin. We've decided one will be our fighter and one our crafter. Should we play both fighters together or 1 fighter/1 crafter?
It's probably best for each of you to have 1 fighter and 1 crafter on your accounts. That way you can each play whichever of your characters you'd like at any given moment. Any other way and you wouldn't be able to have 2 fighters on or 2 crafters on at the same time.
If you're asking what to play at the same time, I would think it would depend on what you want to do. If you want to adventure together, tackle escalations, maybe harvest a bit or do some pvp, then you should both play your fighters, for example.
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Actually, your requirements almost directly fall in line with Phaeros. We have several members who are very casual and will never require participation or turn anyone away for being casual. The more the merrier, even if you log in a couple hours a week at most. Many of our members have families with young children, and some have children who even play when their parents do. We pretty much constantly have a presence on TeamSpeak in one form or another, and we take down monster escalations regularly. We PvP almost every day now in skirmishes with Golgotha over towers. If you're into roleplaying, several of our members roleplay in local chat frequently, but it's localized enough that those who don't roleplay don't feel compelled to participate in something they don't want to.
Overall, it's a great group and I'm really happy that I joined it. :)
Thorgrim, I looked up your company and joined the teamspeak. It's 7th veil and there is nobody online. Am I looking in the wrong spot? Thx.