John Francis wrote:
John, I was not pointing the finger at anyone.Thing is that so far it seems that everyone you ask has a different answer, so until there is an official position as what you can an can not do it is not easy.
To me the blog is ambiguous and can be interpreted in many ways depending on your thought process.
As for me, well I LIKE my crossbow rogue and have done a rebuild to continue to use what he has (+1 Holy Corrosive Heavy Crossbow), but I did pose a scenario where you could rebuild into a close combat specialist and how, depending on your personal interpretation, you could change feats, items and other options.
announcing a one-time limited rebuild to anyone with one or more levels in these classes, allowing those characters to switch any levels in the four classes to their unchained version at no cost. This includes the automatic retraining of any rage powers or rogue talents, as well as the free retraining and selling at full cost of any feats, items, and other character options that no long function properly due to the unchained classes features.
This is the actual quote from the blog what can we see?1)"allowing those characters to switch any levels in the four classes to their unchained version at no cost."
So only allowed to swap the four classes in unchained, check
2)"This includes the automatic retraining of any rage powers or rogue talents"
3)"as well as the free retraining and selling at full cost of any feats, items, and other character options that no long function properly due to the unchained classes features"
What strikes me is that it seems that those most vociferous in opposing a more lenient attitude seem to be those who do not have any of the classes in question. In other words, 'I am unable to do a rebuild, so why should those who can be left off easy.'
I might be wrong, but who knows.
One thing though, unless there is an OFFICIAL ruling we can all say what we want on the boards, we have no official standing.
I am a bit lost on the selling items bit, not sure what I can and can not sell. At the moment I am finding it very complicated to decide if an item qualifies for resale at full value, there are points that seem to be at the appreciation of the player and can be ambiguous.
I have a pure rogue and so I can rebuild all his levels, which means that all his abilities can change. He is a crossbow specialist, but I could rebuild him as a knife-man. If so would I be allowed to resell his magical crossbow at full resale value?
Would it not be easier and clearer just to say that all items linked to classes may be resold at full value?.
Also, what happens if the rebuild renders a character trait useless?
Suggestion: non-multiclassed characters can do a full rebuild into the unchained classes, but must keep attributes, race, alignment.
Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
OK, thanks for the answers, the trait in question is Magical Knack and actually I was looking to retrain the Barbarian level to Cleric, but then I was left with a 'useless' trait.I thought that in a rebuild you could rebuild traits, I must have been mistaken.
The idea was to rebuild the Barbarian level, rebuild the trait and then retrain the barbarian level to Cleric.
On the other hand, my 10th level pure rogue with no Archtypes is rubbing his hands.
Thanks for the answers
(No I did not read the whole thread too long).
Now going to go out into the wilderness and try and find those recipes I still need to level my chars.
Pour le dieu c’était un exemple, tout domaine avec des sorts de toucher a distance marche bien.
En effet j'avais regardé si les inquisitions était permis aux clercs, oui je perd un sort de domaine et le slot qui va avec, entre autre, mais là vous avez un clerc qui peut rester a distance, tirer dans la mêlée et qui est assez bon soigneur.
En plus de pouvoir jouer avec des bon joueurs et des amis, je vois une opportunité pour pouvoir tester un/des concepts, roleplay ou règles.
Je vais voir ce que donne une version inquisiteur.
Lastwall: Ethnicités de base sont Cheliax, Taldor ou Varisie d'après ce que je peux comprendre.
Granted Powers: You gain Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms) and Gunsmithing as bonus feats. When you hit an arcane spellcaster or a creature that uses spell-like abilities with a firearm attack,
On a tous notre idée pour un personnage, ça peut-être rigolo d'avoir un passé en commun mais ce n'est pas obligatoire.
Puis bon, le Tengu n'est plus vraiment une race étrange, je pense que demi-orc à Lastwall est plus dangereux ;)
Si ont est que 4 je propose que chacun d'entre nous prennent un des rôles de base.
Moi je les vois plus ou moins comme suit.
Bien sur on est pas tenu de se conformer aux rôles, on peut aussi s'amuser.
Qui a d'autres idées?
Moi je vais y dormir dessus et essayer de trouver un concept tordu.
Edit: ROFL - ça marche aussi en français le changement d'image :D
Re-edit: Je pourrais faire mon pirate clerc Tengu de Besmara, hmmmm.
"Hey, he shot Fred! Let's get him!" "What about those other guys?" "Leave them alone! Just go after the one that shot Fred!" "But they're shooting me now." "FOR FREEEEEEED!"
Sorry to hijack, but the only thing I could think of after reading this was:
Hammerfall is more than open to hosting an AH open to all, as a matter of fact I see this as necessary to the survival of the settlement.
Once the AH is on 7 days it should be easier to see what is around as there is less of a rush necessary.
I have noticed that prices at Marchmont seem to be a bit on the excessive side sometimes, mostly, IMO, because people do not know what is a fair price and are pricing them high and each time they revert back dropping the price a bit lower.
G&S Thannon Forsworn wrote:
(The irony of complaining about contact methods and then listing a whole slew of them is not lost on me.)
I know, these are all methods I had to find for myself.Again, by grumbling I have made some contacts, but again I have to go outside the game.
I'd just like to check a friends list to see who's on without having to flip through half a dozen chat servers.
I do have contacts with KOTC, just signed up to the forums, as with T7V, TEO and EL, but again outside game when I would really like to do it in game.
I will see what I can do, but at the moment I am rather swamped with real life and a nasty cold.
You want to know one major problem, that there is almost no way in game of being able to contact people.
I log on in Hammerfall and am alone, I try whispers to those contacts I have, no answer.
I will not use the Help chat for this, because that is not what it is for and, also, not everyone reads it.
I would love to have a friends list or a chat channel to be able to contact other players.
At the moment most of the communications are using resources outside the game and it can be very awkward.
I am stuck on both of my characters at the moment because I require resources to advance and I need to contact others to get them but am stuck at this point.
I am not going to leave Hammerfall to go to another settlement because it needs to survive, but unless I devote a large amount of time that I do not have it is going nowhere.
If I was able to create a friends list, so that I knew who was online and then whisper them, it would make my life so much easier.
Whispers to Ravens wrote:
When I paid for my Kickstarter there was no mention of full PvP, PvP yes, but not full PvP.There are other players I know who do not like to PvP either, but are interested in the crafting system. I am playing out my investment here, after which we shall see.
I did not participate in the PvP discussion, but was presented it as a 'fait accompli', would I have backed the kickstarter if I had known it was going to be full PvP, I have no idea.
One problem I have, apart from connection speed, is reaction time, I am too OLD to keep up with the younger players, by the time I react to the situation I quite often at a disadvantage.
One reason I liked 'Pirates of the Burning Sea', reaction time meant very little in the ship to ship PvP combat.
Certainly not Hammerfall, though we could definitely do with more towers.
One problem is that there are small population settlements, I mean I have been on my own for the last 4-5 days. Where as it takes 83 minutes to take a tower for me, if one of Hammerfall's core six towers were taken there is probably no way I could get it back on my own.
This is where the NAP comes in, Hammerfall is protected by this otherwise it would most probably be overrun, again, in minutes.
If the game descended into a free for all PvP brawl, you would see an exodus from the server.
Forces of nature can but be accepted.