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frank gori RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral |
I see a talented designer in there which is why this snark is just oblique enough but you'll understand anyway...
Don't call out the existence of a GM in the description of an item, doesn't belong there. Trust folk will make their own decisions on what means what in their games.
That feedback applies to multiple items but only one of them has collected several upvotes from me (mwahahahaha)
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You poor poor first timers. Seeing your item now is not so important.
Seeing your item after the bottom 25% or so get dropped from the running - now that's when you want to see your item :)
Wowza, 119 new posts - all I did was pop to the supermarket and stock up on beer, pear cider, mixers and various cocktail making goodies.
Back to voting for me then...
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You poor poor first timers. Seeing your item now is not so important.
Seeing your item after the bottom 25% or so get dropped from the running - now that's when you want to see your item :)
Wowza, 119 new posts - all I did was pop to the supermarket and stock up on beer, pear cider, mixers and various cocktail making goodies.
Back to voting for me then...
Still good to know it didn't get DQ for a random reason.
Sean Huguenard RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 8 aka Sect |
You poor poor first timers. Seeing your item now is not so important.
Seeing your item after the bottom 25% or so get dropped from the running - now that's when you want to see your item :)
Wowza, 119 new posts - all I did was pop to the supermarket and stock up on beer, pear cider, mixers and various cocktail making goodies.
Back to voting for me then...
I have to admit that I'm a newcomer to this system of voting (was REALLY busy the last two years). How does this dropping work exactly?
Jacob Kellogg RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka Jiggy |
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You poor poor first timers. Seeing your item now is not so important.
Seeing your item after the bottom 25% or so get dropped from the running - now that's when you want to see your item :)
Wowza, 119 new posts - all I did was pop to the supermarket and stock up on beer, pear cider, mixers and various cocktail making goodies.
Back to voting for me then...
How can we tell when the bottom 25% have been pruned?
Jeff Lee |
I really don't like items that offer me a wide variety of really good ablities, at the cost of a potentially crippling drawback, to justify the low price.
"Here, you get to have this plate of yummy pasta, all you can eat. Oh, but the delicious meat sauce we've prepared also contains an extremely powerful, fast-acting laxative."
Jacob Kellogg RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka Jiggy |
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Negative Zer0 Star Voter Season 8 |
shrug through my first 125 votes the most I saw a given item was 3 times (although there were 5 different items I saw 3 times)... after 238 votes the most I have seen any given item is 6 times (only one item so far). it actually seems better then last year as far as repeats go.
I've now seen the same piece of armor 5 times
The same weapon 6 timesThe same ring 5 times
This is stupid
pH unbalanced Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |
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All right, I'll cop to it...I'm biased against weapons.
If your weapon doesn't do something actually interesting, it's likely to lose my vote to a SAK or SiaC. Because versatility is way cooler than dice of damage.
Not sure I'd fully realized that about myself before voting on this category.
Genuine Dedicated Voter Season 8 |
It's based on what items have the most data, thus eventually it becomes an exercise in sorting the bottom (because no upvotes=no feedback) at which point they do a cull
You poor poor first timers. Seeing your item now is not so important.
Seeing your item after the bottom 25% or so get dropped from the running - now that's when you want to see your item :)
Does that mean that not seeing my item is a good thing?
Thunderfrog Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 |
Anthony Adam Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |
The pruning/culling/dropping of least voted for items is usually announced with something along the lines of
"The items to vote on have been shortened, you should notice more string item pairings and less of those you have not voted for very much".
michael patrick RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick |
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Thunderfrog wrote:It's neither good nor bad. All it means at this point is that your item is in the contest.I've been affected by the effect.
Not the other way around. (Nitpick, I know!)
Congrats to the lady getting married! You can qualify for some of these magic items now!
Nono, that was bad timing. What I was getting at is there's a lot of items that misuse "Effect" and "Affect".
michael patrick RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick |
michael patrick wrote:Nono, that was bad timing. What I was getting at is there's a lot of items that misuse "Effect" and "Affect".Thunderfrog wrote:It's neither good nor bad. All it means at this point is that your item is in the contest.I've been affected by the effect.
Not the other way around. (Nitpick, I know!)
Congrats to the lady getting married! You can qualify for some of these magic items now!
Whoops- I somehow replied to the wrong comment.
James Raine RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka FaxCelestis |
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All right, I'll cop to it...I'm biased against weapons.
If your weapon doesn't do something actually interesting, it's likely to lose my vote to a SAK or SiaC. Because versatility is way cooler than dice of damage.
Not sure I'd fully realized that about myself before voting on this category.
Kind of in agreement, honestly. "This shocking burst orichalcum longspear +3" is a huge turn-off for me. Like, your item comes with predefined characteristics? Where's the invention? The ingenuity? I understand that many defined weapons in the core book work in this format, but it just seems lazy and overly defining. Why is every orc-shanking dagger enchanted with icy burst? Why is every warhammer of infinite smiting made of mithral and +3? I can't have a animated athame of asinine alliteration made out of something other than adamantine?
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frank gori RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral |
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The items price isn't twice it's cost... WHY IS THIS HAPPENING SO MUCH?
As I understand it, for wondrous items the price is always twice the cost, but for items like magic weapons and armor, the cost of the base masterwork weapon or armor is NOT doubled to get the price. Only the cost of any magical enhancements should be doubled, and then the base masterwork item cost added on to get the final price.
So, many of the items we see in voting where the price isn't twice the cost are actually doing it right.
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Thunderfrog wrote:The items price isn't twice it's cost... WHY IS THIS HAPPENING SO MUCH?As I understand it, for wondrous items the price is always twice the cost, but for items like magic weapons and armor, the cost of the base masterwork weapon or armor is NOT doubled to get the price. Only the cost of any magical enhancements should be doubled, and then the base masterwork item cost added on to get the final price.
So, many of the items we see in voting where the price isn't twice the cost are actually doing it right.
Yea, but on certain things, it should probably be doubled up because you dont pay for a masterwork component. I was trying not to be too specific.
As far as maces that hit like magic weapons, it doesn't bother me. It's a really basic component of many rods in virtually every book ever.
If the rod has a special weapon quality, I just check to make sure it makes sense for the rods other, non-smackey powers.
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Why is every warhammer of infinite smiting made of mithral and +3?
possibly for the same reason that every Holy Avenger is a +2 cold iron longsword (or a +5 holy cold iron longsword in the hands of a paladin), and every dagger of venom is a back +1 dagger with a serrated edge, and mace of smiting is always a +3 adamantine heavy mace... If you tell people that they are supposed to be designing "Specific Weapons" like the ones in the core rulebook, they are going to be taking their cues from the specific weapons in the core rulebook.
frank gori RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral |
James Casey RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8 aka Jrcmarine |
BTW pricing is a guideline and cost is fixed. Supply and demand is what dictates an item's price. So you should care more about the cost of the item rather than the [price. Price is merely suggested retail value and will fluctuate depending on the campaign and/or the DM.
I know what the guidelines state but if the pricing/cost are close to the guidelines that is that really matters IMO.
frank gori RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral |
Wow. And right after commenting about not expecting to see it, there's my item. Hopefully it's paired with that other item because they both need votes, and not because they're on the same level because...woof.
Don't over think it or try to interpret it too much a lot of it is random. in an ideal world every item gets paired with every item across as many voters as possible
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