zza ni |
if there is no place to evase TO then evesion doens't work.
try using sold fig or better acid fog in the entire area aroundthem.
you can also try and get them into medium or heavier armor by casting spells that ether imidiatly make them dressed wit hsaid armor or force them to(sujestion and such).
after batteling a horde of monks i might also add that since they not only have a redicilus high saves and special abilities and imunities(not to mantion at higher level sepll resistance) i find that the BEST way to del with them is to ge tsome1 really tough(summon?) and attack them. most monk's are easier to hit then to cast spells on.
Arloro |
I have found that dead PCs seems to lose their evasion.
On a more serious note, when faced with evasion I usually use enemies which have effective ways of de-buffing saves. Witches, Things that cast enervation, Vorpal Weapons, etc.
Kelazan's suggestion of spells which don't use reflex is also a solid suggestion (Horrid Wilting, Boneshatter, unholy blight, chaos hammer, etc)
Cap. Darling |
If it is the super dragon from the other threads. I suggest you use bluffs on your friends. If your friends are already boosted the spells that debuff with no save like frigid touch is good just get reach meta and use quickend true strike just before. Also things like waves of Exhaustion is good. If it is because you have throwing all your eggs in the fireball basket? Then remember that you can memorise other spells as well.
Seannoss |
I think a designer has said that you get a reflex save vs anything and everything that allows one. Even if unconscious or bound. Or that could have been his opinion.
EDIT: and a quick PRD search states that monk and rogue need to be in light or no armor and not helpless. Ring of evasion does not have those limitations.
CLufaS |
Imbicatus |
Horrid Wilting is the fireball that doesn't allow evasion or resist energy.
Blessed Fortitude works though
Kayerloth |
Generally you can evade only if you are not helpless, or not in medium or heavier armor. It must also be an attack which allows a Reflex save for half damage.
A helpless character is paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwise completely at an opponent's mercy.
Note that one is 'helpless' if unconscious or bound and therefore it is not relevant whether you actually get a Reflex save for the purpose of Evasion.
Sufficient ability damage or drain can render a target helpless.
I believe Pinned also renders you unable to use Evasion as one may only take verbal or mental actions as well as being described as tightly bound.
Note that if this is a Dragon it is normally immune to both magical sleep and paralysis effects.