GM Lamplighter |
Rerednaw - no, it's not a joke. From now on, any scenario you may play may have a player who pulls out a laser. They are limited charge, so likely they'll only come out to destroy the most important BBEGs.
Luckily, not all Season 6 scenarios force us to play with lasers, but now that they are available on Chronicles there is no way to prevent a player from bringing one to any game in the future.
Nefreet |
The Fox |
Muser wrote:I just want a chainsaw. Preferably one made of cold iron. For those times you're stuck in a lunar hellhole and just need to, uh, doom some people.You're in luck!!
Thanks! I have just the character for that. :)
Fromper |
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This year's seasonal "theme" is on the nation of Numeria, which includes a crashed spaceship known as the Silver Mount. Two of the new scenarios that debuted at GenCon tied into this directly, and one of those has a laser on the chronicle sheet with very limited ammo.
My level 7 sorcerer thinks physical weapons are beneath him, (but so are direct damage spells), but as a gnome, he's too curious about this "technic stuff" not to try it. I might buy the laser for him, as the first weapon he's ever owned. If I do, when I pull it out while playing, I would definitely describe it without mentioning it's name. But then, I'm also likely to waste the ammo on things like starting campfires instead of using it against enemies.
trollbill Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne |
John Compton Developer |
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It's pretty much as folks noted above. There's some Numerian action happening this season, which has resulted in the introduction of a handful of very limited-use technological items—enough to provide some variety while restricted enough to make them exciting novelties.
As has been noted before, Season 6 is not going to be all Numeria all the time. In fact, we're going to see more scenarios without any noteworthy tie to Numeria than we should see with robots, lasers, and androids. The first three scenarios are a bit of an anomaly in that regard in the name of starting the new season with a bang.
EDIT: Three scenarios, sorry. My mind was confusing the season number and scenario number.
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Fromper |
So if a laser gun is available with limited ammo, what's to stop someone from using Abundant Ammunition with it?
That spell only creates physical, solid objects to use as ammo inside a container (quiver, pouch, etc). The ammo for a laser is energy, not solid objects.
Edit: Double ninja'd!
deusvult |
Season Six is where everything old is new again.
Don't get me wrong, I love the homage.
I do question whether there's an entire Season's worth of material there, though.
trollbill Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne |
holdfast |
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David Haller wrote:How am I supposed to create a PFS version of Marvin the Martian without an Acme Disintegrating Ray Gun?I decided to make one of my Season 6 characters an obese Kitsune named "Barf".
I suggested to the winner of the Technomancer charity boon that he create a Kitsune summoner before taking Technomancer at Level 6.
That way, he can play a furry little creature who can improvise oversized weapons from spare electronic parts, accompanied by a hulking tree-like monstrosity.
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I for one am not excited to see any laser guns in PFS. In my opinion that stuff should stay in Numeria and be isolated to the Iron Gods adventure path. But that is just my opinion. The less robots the better.
On the other hand, I am curious about the Technology guide, and I am interested in at least perusing the Iron Gods adventure path. I most likely won't run it, the majority of my friends don't like the "feel" of it, but who knows I may be surprised. I'll take a look at it. While I don't want any gravity bombs or lasers in my fantasy games, If I say wanted to run a "john Carter of Mars" type game on Akiton, the Technology guide would allow me to do so. So I'm glad it's being published. But I would prefer its contents not be in PFS.
I have played most PFS scenarios, GMed allot too...in addition to being a VO for a few years. ( I have just stepped down because I moved). So if I continue to see lots of technology which I would prefer not to see, like laser guns grenades etc, It may be time for me to play and GM PFS little less, and play a little more in home games. Heck with 5th edition of Dungeons and Dragons out, this might give me a nudge to check that game out and give it a try.
PFS has to cater to a wide audience, I realize that. And if I find there is too much Numerian Tech infesting PFS, perhaps it is time to take a year off. Perhaps not. I'm going to wait and see. I'm not going to throw my hands up think the world is ending and go off in a huff. I'm going to take my time see what the scenarios that are being put out are like, and If there is isn't enough tech stuff to really irritate me and I like the story....I'll stick around. If I find there is too much tech stuff....well I will wish people well, and let others enjoy their lasers.
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David Haller |
I kind of hated the idea of season 6, but now that I'm pondering character builds to deal with robots, I'm getting kind of excited by the prospect.
THAT SAID, I'd prefer it were a mini-campaign within PFS. I'm not that keen, for example, on laser pistol-wielding PCs in, say, The Worldwound. Just have season 6 be all about Numeria, and you roll a character at the start to play through the whole season.
Indeed, from a standpoint of narrative cohesion, I'd love to see PFS 2.0, whenever it comes to pass (I suppose with the release of Pathfinder 2.0), unfold as a series of annual mini-campaigns. That would give one a much clearer idea of story arc, as well as the feel of participation in said arc (versus the current model of a PC who plays a Year one one day, a Year 3 the next, then maybe Silent Tide (hey, I missed that one!), and then off to Numeria. Or whatever.
Have a cycle of retiring Season N while you launch Season N+2, so you're always running two overlapping, but out-of-phase, campaigns. With enough players (which I think there are, now), it could work.
Until then... pew! pew!
Fromper |
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Laser pistols and blasters have been a part of the fantasy genre since the Might and Magic rpg series. Get with the program, you nay-sayers! XD
Hopefully I'm not the only person around here old enough to remember that series!
Disclaimer: this comment is meant to be taken light-heartedly.
Umm, no. I don't know this Might and Magic stuff, because I've never been much of a video gamer, but I just googled it, and I played AD&D 1st edition with lasers and robots before that video game. Deusvalt already provided the link, above.
Mistwalker |
If/when one of my PCs get a laser pistol, I will likely describe it at table as a weirdly shaped wand that fires a ray of light, and maybe say that it is a variant of the spell Searing Light.
I played in one of the new scenarios, where there was a hologram - in my log (yes, I/my characters take notes on every adventure/scenario), I described it as "appears to be a variant on silent image".
How you describe tech can/will alter how it is perceived in game - so if you prefer not to have a lot of tech, describe it in more "pathfinder" like terminology.
Summoned Creature |
I was kind of hoping for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
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Think you intended megawatt or at least kilowatt. A measly 40 watts is a not very bright light bulb. Lasers in that range are used for rather slow part marking. Even if you pulsed the beam it's not going to do much damage.[/pedant]
trollbill Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne |
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trollbill wrote:I was kind of hoping for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.[pedant]
Think you intended megawatt or at least kilowatt. A measly 40 watts is a not very bright light bulb. Lasers in that range are used for rather slow part marking. Even if you pulsed the beam it's not going to do much damage.
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You, sir, have failed your Knowledge (nerd) check. I intended to say exactly what I said since I was referencing a particular line from a movie. Mistwalker gave a mostly correct response [+1 to Mistwalker]. The exact correct response would have been "Hey, just what you see, pal!"
David Neilson |
So far I have liked the current Sky Key scenarios. I like that they decided to go with a large front loading of the yearly flavor, which beats out last year where it felt that the Worldwound and demon fighting were a little slower to get up to speed.
In any case it is not like you do not have people running around with devices that blast out terrible beams of energy even without the laser pistols.
Also in a weird way it feels like a roundabout way to overcome the 'magical shop' issue that some people have. I mean if you were told there were boons for a weird eldritch device that uses forces beyond your ken from an ancient time it would sound cool.
It was also interesting since we were fighting what my character pegged as golems and his response was essentially. 'Oh, nice golems. Lead an army of those once, these could be useful.'
trollbill Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne |
FiddlersGreen wrote:Laser pistols and blasters have been a part of the fantasy genre since the Might and Magic rpg series. Get with the program, you nay-sayers! XD
Hopefully I'm not the only person around here old enough to remember that series!
Disclaimer: this comment is meant to be taken light-heartedly.
Umm, no. I don't know this Might and Magic stuff, because I've never been much of a video gamer, but I just googled it, and I played AD&D 1st edition with lasers and robots before that video game. Deusvalt already provided the link, above.
If you want to go back even further then that I recall an old The Strategic Review (precursor to Dragon Magazine) article on using WWII weapons in D&D. It was a very intriguing article describing how the author had used the rules to get his D&D buddies and his wargaming buddies to play a game against each other without either group initially knowing the other group was playing a different game.
trollbill Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne |
We'll soon see Dire Sharks with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads?
Oh, baby.
Maybe we'll also experience debates with the Venture Captain who sent us out on who shot first?
No debate. I wore my t-shirt with the correct answer on it to Star Wars Weekends and the entire cantina band agreed. They were there, after all.