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I'm confused.
How can we have Earth elementals...When Pathfinder doesn't take place on the planet Earth?


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Duh, you don't.

That's why they have to be summoned from our planet.

Read some rule books, srsly!

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Earth elementals, as in elementals made from the element of the element of earth (dirt, rock, metal, and minerals), not Earth (aka Terra; third planet from the star Sol).

Big difference.


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Along the same line. Why was the event that started the age of darkness called earthfall?


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Because.


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You can play Pathfinder on planet Earth with the correct AP...


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None of the languages used on Golarion would be anything like ours, so 'concepts' are used...So a person from Ustalav and a native of Geb don't say anything like "Earth Elemental"...

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Alaryth wrote:
You can play Pathfinder on planet Earth with the correct AP...

There's also a 1e Dragon Magazine module (100 I think) which can be converted. Involves breaking into the British Museum and stealing an artifact.


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Kerney wrote:
Alaryth wrote:
You can play Pathfinder on planet Earth with the correct AP...
There's also a 1e Dragon Magazine module (100 I think) which can be converted. Involves breaking into the British Museum and stealing an artifact.

Yes. The City Beyond the Gate.


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The better questions is why we as a species couldn't come up with a better name for our homeworld than 'dirt'.


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'Sani wrote:
The better questions is why we as a species couldn't come up with a better name for our homeworld than 'dirt'.

well, what would you name it? I think "dirt" fits perfectly.


The plant is mostly water on the surface though, so naming it "Dirt" doesn't make that much sense.


Bandw2 wrote:
'Sani wrote:
The better questions is why we as a species couldn't come up with a better name for our homeworld than 'dirt'.
well, what would you name it? I think "dirt" fits perfectly.

Actually, given the outer coating, "water" might fit better.

Or in terms of make-up, "nickel" or "iron"

Heck, wonderball works just as well, considering how much we still have to learn about our own core and mantle.


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Thomas Long 175 wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
'Sani wrote:
The better questions is why we as a species couldn't come up with a better name for our homeworld than 'dirt'.
well, what would you name it? I think "dirt" fits perfectly.

Actually, given the outer coating, "water" might fit better.

Or in terms of make-up, "nickel" or "iron"

Heck, wonderball works just as well, considering how much we still have to learn about our own core and mantle.

okay but only if we start calling humans, "skin" or "bones".


Bandw2 wrote:
Thomas Long 175 wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
'Sani wrote:
The better questions is why we as a species couldn't come up with a better name for our homeworld than 'dirt'.
well, what would you name it? I think "dirt" fits perfectly.

Actually, given the outer coating, "water" might fit better.

Or in terms of make-up, "nickel" or "iron"

Heck, wonderball works just as well, considering how much we still have to learn about our own core and mantle.

okay but only if we start calling humans, "skin" or "bones".

We do call some humans, "skin and bones." :P Have for quite a while actually.

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Thomas Long 175 wrote:


Heck, wonderball works just as well, considering how much we still have to learn about our own core and mantle.

I am John, from planet Wonderball. I come in peace.


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Okay everyone, we are starting a petition to change the name of Earth to Wonderball.

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Haskol wrote:
Okay everyone, we are starting a petition to change the name of Earth to Wonderball.

Sign me up!

Actually, Earth has been a significant factor in the world of pathfinder. As both Cthulhu and Baba Yaga have been said to dwell there.


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Wonderball-That-Was could not sustain our numbers, we were so many.

By your powers combined, I am captain Wonderball!


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Jurassic Bard wrote:


Sign me up!

Actually, Earth Wonderball has been a significant factor in the world of pathfinder. As both Cthulhu and Baba Yaga have been said to dwell there.

Fix'd.


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Calling the planet "dirt" makes sense to me because humans only live on the dirt. Even those who live on the water are really living on dirt and products of the dirt they moved on top of the water.

If fish could talk to us, they'd probably call the planet "water" or something similar.

That said, I am partial to Wonderball...

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A pseudophrasing of Jack Campbell, of a conversation talking about aliens:

"I wonder what they call their planet."

"Earth."

"What?"

"Whatever noises they actually use, that's the only translation that works."


Duiker wrote:

A pseudophrasing of Jack Campbell, of a conversation talking about aliens:

"I wonder what they call their planet."

"Earth."

"What?"

"Whatever noises they actually use, that's the only translation that works."

Somebody please tell me what this is, and is somebody going to post a link. I am totally signing that petition.

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Larkos wrote:


That said, I am partial to Wonderball...

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

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Sorry, Jack McDevitt, not Jack Campbell. But I think it was from the book Omega (it's about third of a six or so book series).


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"They're so primitive they still call their planet Dirt."

"...wait, doesn't your name for your planet translate as The Place That Holds Our Roots In Safety?"

--massively paraphrased from Illegal Aliens by Phil Foglio and Nick Polotta


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We could always call it Planet Bob like they did in Titan AE.

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You folks DO understand that our planet's name is "Earth" only to those who speak English? I'm pretty sure that there are cultures whose name for our world translates out to something completely different. Such as Eskimo cultures that have no agriculture at all and live entirely on what they hunt on the polar ice.

What really makes us primitive is that we still think smartphones are a good idea.

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Nonsense! All those foreign folks are just pretending not to speak English so they won't have to obey us Americans! ;)

Larkos wrote:
...If fish could talk to us, they'd probably call the planet "water" or something similar...

If fish could talk to us, they'd probably never stop swearing at us. First the spear, then the gillnet, and most recently the automated processing ship: they've got plenty to be angry about. Oh, well... Get in our bellies, fish!

Back to the original facetious topic: I wonder what it takes to summon a Mars elemental, a Comet elemental, or a Low-Earth-Orbit-Space-Junk elemental...


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LazarX wrote:

What really makes us primitive is that we still think smartphones are a good idea.

Or that we call them "smart?"


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pancreas wrote:

I'm confused.

How can we have Earth elementals...When Pathfinder doesn't take place on the planet Earth?

Probably the same reasone as to why we can have Fire elementals. Scientists really need to find this planet Fire.

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Lincoln Hills wrote:

Back to the original facetious topic: I wonder what it takes to summon a Mars elemental, a Comet elemental, or a Low-Earth-Orbit-Space-Junk elemental...

About the same as a Titanium Elemental, Chlorine Elemental, Ossium Elemental, or Ranch Dressing Elemental.

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And while we're at it, shouldn't every Earth elemental you conjure come with a Moon elemental (one size smaller) that orbits it?


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So, earthfall as used on Golarion refers specifically to the stuff that is falling. Whereas earthfall as used on our planet could also be referring to the thing that is being fallen on.


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Rub-Eta wrote:
pancreas wrote:

I'm confused.

How can we have Earth elementals...When Pathfinder doesn't take place on the planet Earth?
Probably the same reasone as to why we can have Fire elementals. Scientists really need to find this planet Fire.

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Sun

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ShallowHammer wrote:
LazarX wrote:

What really makes us primitive is that we still think smartphones are a good idea.

Or that we call them "smart?"

That shows how devolved we are.


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LazarX wrote:
ShallowHammer wrote:
LazarX wrote:

What really makes us primitive is that we still think smartphones are a good idea.

Or that we call them "smart?"
That shows how devolved we are.

Reference the anime Summer Wars for the direction we're heading... That, and Wall-E! All because we think it's intelligent to link our bank accounts, safe combinations, cars, home security, kitchens, and whatever else, to our PHONES AND THE INTERWEBZ!

That said, I'm all up for a Pluto Elemental. I think it might look like a dog!

But, are we sure these elementals are actually elementals? They could be aliens... I mean, just look at Miss Methane...


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Sadly, Pluto had to surrender it's elemental rights. Poor little guy.

:(


I'm taking my Spork, going home, and calling it a day ;p


Earth is not a word for dirt don't be fooled, it has come to mean dirt due to market saturation on earth but really is a brand of germanic goddess (eoerth) just as terra and gaia were roman and greek goddess names.

Its like over time:

'personal water craft' are called the Kawasaki brand 'jet ski'
'hot tubs' being called by brand 'Jacuzzi'
'guide dogs' being 'seeing eye dogs'
'ice resurfacer' being called 'zambonis'
'lipbalm' called 'chap stick'
'tissues' called 'kleenex'
'table tennis' called 'ping pong'

etc etc

just because the brainwashed and uneducated call 'dirt''earth' does not make it so sulu

google 'things called by their brand name' for more.

That said they should be dirt elementals or if specifics used perhaps keb elementals or torag elementals.


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Here is what Wikipedia said about Earth:

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Name and etymology
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The modern English noun earth developed from Middle English erthe (recorded in 1137), itself from Old English eorthe (dating from before 725), deriving from Proto-Germanic *erthō. Earth has cognates in all other Germanic languages, including Dutch aarde, German Erde, and Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish jord.[31] The Earth is personified as a goddess in Germanic paganism (appearing as Jörð in Norse mythology, mother of the god Thor).[32]


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Rub-Eta wrote:
pancreas wrote:

I'm confused.

How can we have Earth elementals...When Pathfinder doesn't take place on the planet Earth?
Probably the same reasone as to why we can have Fire elementals. Scientists really need to find this planet Fire.

The Beast Planet ate it. :(


Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
Rub-Eta wrote:
pancreas wrote:

I'm confused.

How can we have Earth elementals...When Pathfinder doesn't take place on the planet Earth?
Probably the same reasone as to why we can have Fire elementals. Scientists really need to find this planet Fire.
The Beast Planet ate it. :(

You get a +1 (and then some) for reminding me of one of my old favorite cartoons that I couldn't remember the name of. Thank you.


Lincoln Hills wrote:
a Low-Earth-Orbit-Space-Junk elemental...

This better be in the Iron Gods AP...


pancreas wrote:
Earth

Uh, the correct spelling is Erf.

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