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Samy wrote:
a) Will there be a campaign trait like Iron Gods' "Robot Slayer", essentially a Lesser Favored Enemy (Giant)?

Something like that.

Samy wrote:

b) Will there be friendly giants?

b1) If yes, will there be a romanceable giant? :D :D :D

Maybe, but mostly unlikely.

Samy wrote:
c) What would you say is the ratio between outdoors/wilderness and indoors/dungeon/underground encounters? Is it more of an wilderness AP or more of a dungeon crawl AP?

We're trying to have a good mix of both. Maybe a bit heavier on the indoors/dungeon crawls, but plenty of outdoors action too.

Samy wrote:
d) What about the sandboxy versus linear spectrum? Can you do a lot of things out of order (within each book, obviously, not the books themselves out of order) or are the adventures more a to b to c?

Again, we're trying for a good mix of both. The first adventure, "Battle of Bloodmarch Hill," is very sandboxy. "Forge of the Giant God" and "Ice Tomb of the Giant Queen" have a lot of sandbox elements, along with some smaller indoor/dungeony areas.

Samy wrote:
e) Are there any politics involving border crossings? Will there be incidents where the party will need to cross from one country to another through a watchpost? Is there any point where it's meaningful which country the party is in? Or is the whole AP more, weaving back and forth across borders and nobody really cares because it's up in the mountains?

The AP is not about national borders; it's about stopping an extranational giant threat.

Samy wrote:
f) Which of the six books do you think has the coolest "elevator pitch" or hook? Can you tease anything about it?

"Shadow of the Storm Tyrant."

Two words: cloud castle.

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j b 200 wrote:
Will there be any tie-in with Thassalon or any more info about how the Giants were slaves in the Thassalonian empire?

No. Rise of the Runelords covered this pretty well. Giantslayer has nothing to do with Thassilon or Varisia.


Will there be anything about what races outside of core would fit the area(s) that the AP will take place? Examples would be the Changeling and Dhampir for the Carrion Crown AP.

Dark Archive

Against the Giants, Paizo-style! Ooh, I just can't wait for this! :D

(Rob, send me a PM containg all the secrets of this AP, or my imps will teleport into your house and replace all your clothes with Schneider's "secret" stash of, eh, ladies' undergarments!)


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Rob McCreary wrote:
Two words: cloud castle.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Asgetrion wrote:

Against the Giants, Paizo-style! Ooh, I just can't wait for this! :D

(Rob, send me a PM containg all the secrets of this AP, or my imps will teleport into your house and replace all your clothes with Schneider's "secret" stash of, eh, ladies' undergarments!)

um, those were mine, please tell your Imp to get the right f&#@ing address next time!

:D


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Yeah, but that didn't stop you from dressing up in them and posing in front of your mirror.

Do you know how expensive it is to pay for psychological therapy for kitten spies? Tsk.

Liberty's Edge

Will we see a mounted combat giant?

What would a mounted combat giant ride?

Grand Lodge

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Wow.

Rob, thank you -- I was not expecting this much candor this early in development.

Thanks to you, Adam as well.

Question:
In Mike Selinker's masterpiece, "Lear, Giant King" from Dungeon 78, we have the greatest published "Completely-Giants-Featured" adventure of all time.

For this AP's inspiration, in addition to the banal-even-in-1978, grognaridian hack-&-slash from G1-G3 -- and hopefully other well known (Fortress of the Stone Giants) or novel ("Fire Giant's Daughter" also by Wolfgang Baur) giant adventures -- will this AP pay homage in style or theme to the greats, (for us Grognards) as well as adding the next chapter in giant-themed-adventure evolution?

Obviously you can't rehash Fortress from AP#4; that'd be dumb. And obviously you can't make a spiritual successor in a King Lear-inspired Storm Giant adventure or even have a petulant Fire Giant daughter ask the PCs for help from an overbearing father.

But since both authors (Mike Selinker created Pathfinder Card Game, right? & Wolfgang Baur) work really well with Paizo -- will they both be contributing to this project, either with ideas or actual articles / adventures?

Thanks

(And here's hoping that at least one of the adventures in the new AP reaches the greatness of Selinker's Masterpiece -- one of the top 10 or so adventures in the 2E era, let alone the greatest Giants-Themed adventure)


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Rob McCreary wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:

1) Will there be a section of the adventure that involved a dwarven outpost/cit, such as Janderhoff?

2) If so, will there be a gazetteer entry for that city?

Sadly, no for both, but primarily because I don't want to steal any thunder from the Dwarves vs. Orcs AP that I eventually hope to do.

"Dwarves vs. Orcs AP that I eventually hope to do"

Yes please ! :)


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Tangent101 wrote:

Yeah, but that didn't stop you from dressing up in them and posing in front of your mirror.

Do you know how expensive it is to pay for psychological therapy for kitten spies? Tsk.

well don't expect me to chip in

if you didn't tell them what they were getting into then thats a you problem:)
also tell Fluffy sorry for the seared retinas:)
but hey we'll make adjustments and we'll make a tradition out of it:)*

*lets see if anyone can guess where that line is from:)


There's more info in the Know Direction Adventure Path podcast, now up.

Including:

Overview- Storm Tyrant is gathering together a giant army. His floating cloud castle gives him a mobility advantage that makes him a big threat.

Some artifact themes in this AP. Some classics like Hammer of Thunderbolts and Orb of Dragonkind, as well as others. (The orb means there will be dragons in this AP.)

The first adventure, Battle of Bloodmarch Hill, takes place on a hill in Belkzen formerly known as.... Trunau!!!

Liberty's Edge

Spoiler:
Wasn't there just a floating cloud "castle" in Mummy's Mask?


Samy wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Not a cloud castle, per se, and it wasn't- GIANT sized! Muahahahaaa!

I am very curious about what type of the orb of dragon kin they will have in this AP. I hope it is a non-chromatic one.

Liberty's Edge

What's an orb of dragonkin?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I think he means Orb of Dragonkind...
It is an artifact that allows complete control over a dragon within range of the same color as the orb itself. There is supposedly only one of each color/metal.

We know that the Blue one is somewhere in Hell & way too big/powerful* to be moved. We also know that at least one has been destroyed, since the Gold Dragon responsible for Hermea has gifted shards which have been confirmed to have come from a destroyed Orb to friends/allies. I think those are the only ones we know of...

I too am curious regarding this.

*:
I don't know about anyone else but when I read the write-up on the Blue dragon Orb in Artifacts & Legends I got the impression that it was powerful enough to control the entire Blue Dragon species...

Silver Crusade

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Rob McCreary wrote:

An Orb of Dragonkind features strongly in this AP.

LET THEIR BLOOD RAIIIN FROM THE SKYYYYYYYY!


Yes I meant Orb of Dragonkind, I really wasn't checking what I was typing.


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Wow, I am getting huge Dragonlance flashbacks.


We need a Giant Blood line for Sorcerer before this class comes out.

Silver Crusade

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Will we learn more about the Giant Pantheon?


It'd be nice. I've thought about playing a worshipper of Fandarra several times.

Dark Archive

captain yesterday wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:

Against the Giants, Paizo-style! Ooh, I just can't wait for this! :D

(Rob, send me a PM containg all the secrets of this AP, or my imps will teleport into your house and replace all your clothes with Schneider's "secret" stash of, eh, ladies' undergarments!)

um, those were mine, please tell your Imp to get the right f##$ing address next time!

:D

... uh, all these horrible 80's style clothes are *yours*? Captain, pink is *so* yesterday, you know?

My apologies, I shall have imps flogged and sent to Citadel Vraid immediately! Um, I'd like to have Schneider's Secret Lingerie Collection (TM) back, so maybe you can send them to Westcrown?


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Bah! you wish you could pull this off!
and no backsies!
:)

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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Will we learn more about the Giant Pantheon?

Not necessarily as a whole, but there will be two deity articles in the AP that detail the faith of Minderhal and Zursvaater.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Bah! you wish you could pull this off!

and no backsies!
:)

Cap, one of those outfits is a kilt.

No, we don't wish he could pull it off. ^^;;


Rob McCreary wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:

1) Will there be a section of the adventure that involved a dwarven outpost/cit, such as Janderhoff?

2) If so, will there be a gazetteer entry for that city?

Sadly, no for both, but primarily because I don't want to steal any thunder from the Dwarves vs. Orcs AP that I eventually hope to do.

In said hypothetical dwarves vs orcs AP, would we be able to side with the orcs?

Little more on topic, which iconics are going to be featured in Giantslayer's artwork?

Dark Archive

Tangent101 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Bah! you wish you could pull this off!

and no backsies!
:)

Cap, one of those outfits is a kilt.

No, we don't wish he could pull it off. ^^;;

You wish to see me perform the infamous Dwarven Nekkid Beard Dance? Yeah, I can do that...


Okay, I'm getting excited for this, especially with the Dragon Orb revelation. Don't know how likely any of these are, but it'd be cool to see:
-Giant King riding a gigantic dragon, leading an invasion.
-Giant Vampires (since giants are technically humanoid, dominate and spawning are good to go)
-War Machines of the Giants (we know they can build monuments, but what else can they make...)
-How giants of different races view one-another. I know that in older editions (and mythology) fire giants and frost giants were mortal enemies, but don't know if this carried over to Pathfinder.
I would honestly worry less about a Ranger plowing through the path than I would an Enchanter. Since giants are all considered humanoids and most have pretty bad will saves, I hope something will help against a 7th level wizard recruiting his own army from within the module.


Awww man. I love giants, and this is incredibly interesting.


I would also like to know how giants view each other with regards to different types.

I really hope for at least some new types of giants and giant related creatures such as trolls, gigas, ogres, etc..


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Here is the blurb from the new Pathfinder catalog:

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Deep in the Mindspin Mountains, a storm giant warlord known as

the Storm Tyrant has seized control of a cloud castle and an Orb of
Dragonkind, and is gathering an army of giants
from across western Avistan—first to bring the
orc hordes of Belkzen under his banner, then to
conquer the neighboring realms.
Heroes defending the human town of Trunau from an orc raid
discover that the attack is just a precursor to the Storm Tyrant’s
larger plans. Working their way through an abandoned border
fort, an ancient giant temple, the tomb of an undead frost giant,
and an elite fire giant training facility beneath a dormant
volcano, the heroes eventually take the fight to the Storm
Tyrant himself inside his flying fortress. Can the giant army
be defeated before it can conquer the human lands of the
Inner Sea, or will all of Avistan bow down in fealty to the
Storm Tyrant?


Just thinking aloud here, but the Orb of Dragonkind business leads me to wonder if the PCs might not be able to gain draconic allies in their campaign against the giants at some point. I can't imagine they enjoy being enslaved by a magic item.


I thought in Castles of the Inner Sea the Storm Giant in question was a woman? Did I misread something, or is that a different floating castle?

Liberty's Edge

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Major_Blackhart wrote:
I thought in Castles of the Inner Sea the Storm Giant in question was a woman? Did I misread something, or is that a different floating castle?

The description says he 'seized control' of it...so he probably stole it from her.


Ok, they have to have Oloch in this one. That's his momma's home town.


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Major_Blackhart wrote:
I thought in Castles of the Inner Sea the Storm Giant in question was a woman? Did I misread something, or is that a different floating castle?

this is probably a different castle considering the map in the book shows it near the ironbound islands and not even close to the hold of belkzen.


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I hope that the final battle gives us the option of lifting the Storm Tyrant's control of his bound dragons and then stepping back to watch the fireworks.


zergtitan wrote:
Major_Blackhart wrote:
I thought in Castles of the Inner Sea the Storm Giant in question was a woman? Did I misread something, or is that a different floating castle?
this is probably a different castle considering the map in the book shows it near the ironbound islands and not even close to the hold of belkzen.

Aren't sky castles mobile?

Liberty's Edge

Depends on if they're tethered sky castles or free-floating sky castles. And the tightness of the tethers. And windspeed...


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What would make for a truly interesting twist is if the Orb in question... controlled one of the Good Dragon species. So you have metallic dragons forced to attack villages... and the players forced to attack them.

Even better, a Paladin's Smite Evil would be useless against them. ^_^

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Tangent101 wrote:

What would make for a truly interesting twist is if the Orb in question... controlled one of the Good Dragon species. So you have metallic dragons forced to attack villages... and the players forced to attack them.

Even better, a Paladin's Smite Evil would be useless against them. ^_^

Smite evil aside, I'm always up for getting to crack out some of the good monsters as adversaries. Especially if they have their own (perfectly valid) reasons for opposing the PCs, but mind control certainly works too :)

Cheers!
Landon

Liberty's Edge

Tangent101 wrote:
Even better, a Paladin's Smite Evil would be useless against them. ^_^

Unlikely. Even if the race of Good dragons is Good as a race, the particular individual mind-controlling others to force them into killing villagers would most certainly be Evil.


Samy wrote:
Tangent101 wrote:
Even better, a Paladin's Smite Evil would be useless against them. ^_^
Unlikely. Even if the race of Good dragons is Good as a race, the particular individual mind-controlling others to force them into killing villagers would most certainly be Evil.

I think that was "wouldn't be able to use Smite against the controlled metallic dragons". Against the big bad controlling them, certainly.


Except with Pathfinder story conventions there will be at least 1 metallic dragon that found it liked killing people and turned evil...

And there will be a strong-willed or uncontrolled dragon who will help you past the good dragons but you will be forced to fight the guardian of the orb who is... You guessed it! The evil metallic dragon!

End result: Paladins are not too phased.

Scarab Sages

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Hmm. Base CR4 for green dragons implies green great wyrms are CR 20. Interesting.

Liberty's Edge

Does anyone know what the urban/wilderness/dungeon ratio will be on this AP? I watched the AP GenCon panel and followed the thread so I'm assuming urban will be pretty low but my concern is the description makes it seem like it relies heavily on dungeons, giant-themed dungeons ala Against the Giants, but dungeons none the less.


From what I have heard it is heavy on dungeon, a bit less heavy on wilderness, and light on urban. So the ratio would be about 50%/40%/10% respectively.


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but my concern is the description makes it seem like it relies heavily on dungeons, giant-themed dungeons ala Against the Giants, but dungeons none the less.

I suspect mostly dungeons (but that's a Paizo thing for the most part nowadays, anyways - I'm surprised at your concern).

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