Uh, Enlarge Person is most definitely not a polymorph effect, as the spell lacks the polymorph tag.Animal aspect does not stack with enlarge person. Both are polymorph effects, and a character can only be under the influence of one polymorph effect at a time.Lead Blades and Strong Jaw should work together; Lead Blades increases the effective size of the weapon while Strong Jaw increases the effective size of the creature. Neither spell is of the polymorph school so there is no problem there.
Hell, if one wants to get even crazier, go Feral Combat Training and start using Enlarge Person, Lead Blades, Animal Aspect - Gorilla, Imp. Natural Attack and Strong Jaw.
That's a 6 step increase in damage dice right there. Out of all of these, the ones that might not stack with each other are Enlarge Person with Strong Jaw (creature size) and Lead Blades with Imp. Natural Attack (weapon size). Animal Aspect stacks with all of it because it simply advances the damage die of the unarmed strike (which benefits a natural weapon with Feral Combat Training).
Well, damn me, you're right. Bizarre.
You win!I'll bet 87 quatloos that it hits 300 before June 16th.I'm kinda hoping they take a while to answer this one just so I can see how far up the number of FAQ requests goes. oO
Anyone taking bets yet?
Woohoo! Alright gamesters, pay up!
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Enlarge Person is most definitely not a polymorph effect, as the spell lacks the polymorph tag.Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.
You gain some of the beneficial qualities of an animal. Your base form is largely unchanged and your size is unaltered, but some of your body parts are altered. Armor or gear you are wearing adjusts to your new shape for the duration of the spell. When you cast animal aspect, choose one of the following animals to gain the associated benefits. You can only have one animal aspect or greater animal aspect spell active on you at a time.
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Gorilla: Your arms become long, flexible, and strong like those of a great ape. Your unarmed damage die type increases by one step, and you gain a +4 competence bonus on combat maneuver checks when making the grapple or reposition combat maneuver.
Please tell me where it says that the unarmed damage dice increase is a size bonus or changes the size of the creature? Better yet, if you read the two italics lines above, you'll notice that the base form and size remain unchanged or altered, though some body parts can be altered. Then, when reading the Gorilla aspect, it simply says your arms become long, flexible and strong. No size increase.
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Enlarge Person is most definitely not a polymorph effect, as the spell lacks the polymorph tag.Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.
Animal Aspect specifically notes in the spell text that your size doesn't change.
Your base form is largely unchanged and your size is unaltered
Since Enlarge person isn't a Polymorph spell and your size is only being changed by one of the two spells they should stack without any issues.
What I meant was that the 10d6 was out of place. 8d6 and 8d8 fit nicely, but 10d6 should have probably been 12d6.I highlighted the 10d6 from the 1d12 line because it seems out of place. 12d6 makes more sense, and that's the only instance of 8d6 going to 10d6, when two other times it increases to 12d6. *shrug*Actually there's three. Also one of 8d8 going to 12d8. I've highlighted all four.
Bold section. There's three other times. ;)
Also, while we're wishing for lollipops, how about some love for the
a) cave druid
b) wild shaped into a carnivorous crystal (with a punch of 7d8)
c) rocking the strong jaw
Then go monk and Feral Combat Training for flurry of blows. : D
It doesn't matter how many FAQ hits there are since in theory once it hits so many, more do not help
And of course it doesn't matter since they haven't done any PDT responses since Sean left. Nor any substantive FAQ.
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I have the actual book in my collection can I share the info?
Share page numbers.
That is about all you can share.
But keep in mind it is a very early 3.0 book. So much thought has went into this concept afterwards. You can question why parts were left out, but that table was early on in the process. After the PHB/MM/DMG but before 3.5, pathfinder, etc.
The mods might disagree, but you should be able to share just the table, under Fair Use.
Well, at least we know Paizo has looked at this thread right?
Btw, FAQ'd #327
This came up the other day while talking to a friend of mine about Enlarge Person and Improved Natural Attack... Has this even been answered yet?
One would think that a question with over 330 FAQ requests would be something of a priority...
It's actually incredibly impressive that we've gotten this many FAQ requests but not a single answer from the Paizo staff. It seems like this year they've been rather lazy on the rules changes front.
Over 350 FAQ requests now... Yikes.
It's actually incredibly impressive that we've gotten this many FAQ requests but not a single answer from the Paizo staff. It seems like this year they've been rather lazy on the rules changes front.
To be fair, this is the kind of thing that probably requires a good amount of consideration before changing, since it does affect lots of things. It's not something that they can make a quick ruling and then forget about it, so the devs would need some time to come up with a good answer.
That said, a simple "We are aware of this issue and thinking of possible solutions" would be great.
It's actually incredibly impressive that we've gotten this many FAQ requests but not a single answer from the Paizo staff. It seems like this year they've been rather lazy on the rules changes front.
You can't much blame them. Their last few changes have been met with a fierce response. They might be playing cards closer to their chest. There also might be a growing dissonance over how they want to take the system and the established fan base and are evaluating how to move next without creating a schism. Lots of ifs and maybes...
In the past six months they've reduced the designer team by 33%, increased the designer team by 33%, and pushed out what I believe from a designer perspective is the most ambitious book Paizo has released since the CRB first hit the shelves. It's understandable (though unfortunate) that FAQs have been given a lower priority for the moment.
Personally I predict a flurry of FAQ responses for the autumn.
Meh... I'm perfectly fine doing this in my head. More power to everyone else though. Also, Paizo is in the middle of con season, so I wouldn't expect an answer anytime soon.