So you wanna be on the design team?


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Jiggy wrote:
Do I get bonus points if my resume is in the form of a monster stat block?

Are you going convert your work experience into XP?

Does 1 year count as one level? Or would only promotions count as a new level?

Would educational experience get converted into knowledge ranks?

What about previous salaries and requested salary? "I made 35,000 gp last year."

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Gambit wrote:
Does 6 years of U.S. Air Force service in a communications/IT field and an honorable discharge = 1 bachelors degree?

A big part of the "bachelor's degree" thing is about demonstrating that you have the ability to commit to a thing that's A Big Life-Changing Deal and see it through. Your years of service do indeed communicate your ability to do that, and I strongly suspect that other parts of your resume will suggest the other things that we usually look to that degree requirement for, such as a desire for continuing educational experiences.

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Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
I may be overstepping my bounds here, but in my experience with resumes, if you want a chance bad enough and feel that your experiences can make up for a lack of qualification, don't cripple yourself by not applying. Diamond in the rough, after all.

As the cliché goes, the worst that can happen is they say "no". 8^)


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Arazyr wrote:
Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
I may be overstepping my bounds here, but in my experience with resumes, if you want a chance bad enough and feel that your experiences can make up for a lack of qualification, don't cripple yourself by not applying. Diamond in the rough, after all.
As the cliché goes, the worst that can happen is they say "no". 8^)

I dunno.

The worst that can happen is they say "no" and then send Cosmo to visit you.

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Matt Thomason wrote:
Arazyr wrote:
Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
I may be overstepping my bounds here, but in my experience with resumes, if you want a chance bad enough and feel that your experiences can make up for a lack of qualification, don't cripple yourself by not applying. Diamond in the rough, after all.
As the cliché goes, the worst that can happen is they say "no". 8^)

I dunno.

The worst that can happen is they say "no" and then send Cosmo to visit you.

A house party with Cosmo as the special guest? Sounds like a great way to get rejected to me! :D

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Hey, I'd be honored by a personal visit by a Paizo employee. Even if it was Cosmo. *runs away*


Matt Thomason wrote:
Arazyr wrote:
Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
I may be overstepping my bounds here, but in my experience with resumes, if you want a chance bad enough and feel that your experiences can make up for a lack of qualification, don't cripple yourself by not applying. Diamond in the rough, after all.
As the cliché goes, the worst that can happen is they say "no". 8^)

I dunno.

The worst that can happen is they say "no" and then send Cosmo to visit you.

If it happened, should I hold him as an hostage?


I threw my hat in the ring. This would be a dream job for me.


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Belle Mythix wrote:
Matt Thomason wrote:
Arazyr wrote:
Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
I may be overstepping my bounds here, but in my experience with resumes, if you want a chance bad enough and feel that your experiences can make up for a lack of qualification, don't cripple yourself by not applying. Diamond in the rough, after all.
As the cliché goes, the worst that can happen is they say "no". 8^)

I dunno.

The worst that can happen is they say "no" and then send Cosmo to visit you.

If it happened, should I hold him as an hostage?

I would be cautious about that- they might not let you give him back!


Jason Bulmahn wrote:

We are open to candidates with any degree to be honest. There are some that I would think of as more valuable to the game design profession than others, but we are far more interested in your work in the field and experience.

To be honest, the range of degrees you would find here at Paizo would be staggering. I have an architecture degree, for example. Sean has a chemistry degree. Stephen has a degree in metal.. iirc.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer

I'm not interested in the position, but I am curious why a college degree would be required?

Wouldn't industry experience be more valuable than a degree?

Just wondering.

Afterall, if I recall, Gygax didn't have a degree when he made D&D...isn't that right?

On the otherhand, Arneson taught at a college/university.


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Because just about everybody expects a degree these days.

The days of the self-educated, self-made man being considered an asset are over, companies tend to prefer the mass-produced college graduates based on a limited set of standardized qualities.

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See comment by Vic Wertz above. It isn't about the education, it is about showing you have the ability to commit and follow through to big decisions and projects.


kyrt-ryder wrote:

Because just about everybody expects a degree these days.

The days of the self-educated, self-made man being considered an asset are over, companies tend to prefer the mass-produced college graduates based on a limited set of standardized qualities.

Here comes the special snowflake speech about "conformist factories".


CalebTGordan wrote:
See comment by Vic Wertz above. It isn't about the education, it is about showing you have the ability to commit and follow through to big decisions and projects.

If someone has been successful in the industry already, wouldn't that show a similar commitment if not more than someone who has not been?

In addition, wouldn't that also be an asset if they've shown they can already be successful and do things in the industry already?

How about if the person served in the military successfully, wouldn't that also show commitment and especially a big decision?

What if someone had no degree, but led a multi-million dollar company, (or, maybe Bill Gates prior to 2006...multi-billion in his case) or other major achievement in life...wouldn't that also show the ability to commit and follow through (and in addition, be successful and be able to make solid decisions too!).

I'm not sure why college would be the only way that such a thing could be shown.

Consider me puzzled.

(and just to be clear, no interest in the job myself, just curious about the requirements and reasonings).

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Jason's post here speaks to this a bit.

Also, I'm a college dropout and I got in. ;)

(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)


Adam Daigle wrote:

Jason's post here speaks to this a bit.

Also, I'm a college dropout and I got in. ;)

(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)

Thumbs up!!!

It's good to know applicable experience can be looked at instead of simply using the old degree adage.


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Does it really needed to be stated that a college degree requirement can be waived when weighted against vast experience? That if Gygax was applying for a RPG job they'd waive the degree requirement. Or if Gates was applying for a software management gig they'd waive it as well?

Is this a serious question or are people just using this thread as a platform to rave against their dislike of degree requirements that have kept them out of jobs?


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Adam Daigle wrote:

(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)

It was that double secret probation, wasn't it!?

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Adam Daigle wrote:

Jason's post here speaks to this a bit.

Also, I'm a college dropout and I got in. ;)

(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)

I also do not have a college degree. However, I have worked extensively in a related field (IT administration) and have more than a few years of volunteering for Paizo to make up for it.

So, to reiterate: no degree may not be a problem, but experience is not discounted either.


Liz Courts wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:

Jason's post here speaks to this a bit.

Also, I'm a college dropout and I got in. ;)

(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)

I also do not have a college degree. However, I have worked extensively in a related field (IT administration) and have more than a few years of volunteering for Paizo to make up for it.

So, to reiterate: no degree may not be a problem, but experience is not discounted either.

Same - I didn't even have my GED when I got promoted into retail management. Many times skill and experience are far more important than a degree, just as a degree isn't necessarily going to net you a high-paying job. I remember it bothering one of my employees years ago that they had a Bachelor's in English, and yet I was their boss making several dollars more an hour then they were :P

Like Vic said above, the college degree (or equivalent training) merely shows that you're capable of seeking out and completing specialized training, and as an employer, it's something I've always taken with a grain of salt.


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Tirisfal wrote:
Many times skill and experience are far more important than a degree, just as a degree isn't necessarily going to net you a high-paying job.

My first degree was in pure maths and philosophy. I actually emerged less employable than when I went in. :o


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Tirisfal wrote:
Many times skill and experience are far more important than a degree, just as a degree isn't necessarily going to net you a high-paying job.
My first degree was in pure maths and philosophy. I actually emerged less employable than when I went in. :o

I majored in religion and philosophy...I pretty much trained to ask you if you want fries with your meal or not :)

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Posting hesitantly... but I wanted to add a comment or two of encouragement as well. I also wanted to add a mental incentive for starting freelancers.

I started with Paizo writing feats and spells. I did my best and worked hard and worked my way up. I was compensated, but it is times like this that I kinda feel like I got a degree from the University of Paizo—through hands on experience.

It's a good reason to throw yourself at your assignments and do your best, because that experience is very valuable.


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Also, as another word of encouragement, I'm not applying for the position, so you all have a chance.

Go for it!

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I sent in my resume already, but now that I know Cheapy isn't going for it I actually feel like I have a chance!

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If you think that you would enjoy the job, by all means apply for it. College degree or no college degree. The education spread for folks who have worked full-time as RPG designers and developers is pretty wild: everything from no college degree, to creative writing/English degrees, to Chemistry, etc.

Paizo will decide if your design chops are up to snuff, but for you, the only metric that matters is if you could see yourself doing it and if you would enjoy it.


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For sure. Keep in mind a few things too:

Your skin needs to be thick. Really thick. You'll be dealing with these forums, after all. Think about that for a second.

one of Sean's jobs was to be freelancer wrangler. I'm not sure if that'll fall to Stephen or the new guy, but this would include keeping track of the freelancers to use and their individual strengths, who is assigned to what, who wrote what (for archival purposes), etc. Lots of administrative stuff.

You'd be doing a lot of development, which is taking the work of others and massaging it into the vision of the design team. I'm not sure how much designing Sean did.

Long hours. If you have kids, think about that.

It's not all sunshine and nerfing martials :-)

But if you're up to the challenge, go for it! We all want the best for the Game, and a diverse group of applicants will ensure that!


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My chances would be about -175%

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Guy St-Amant wrote:

My chances would be about -175%

So your saying there's a chance...


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CalebTGordan wrote:
Guy St-Amant wrote:

My chances would be about -175%

So your saying there's a chance...

If I applied, everyone else chances would increase.

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Is there a preferred format for the file name of my resume?

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To be clear, I am not going to disqualify a resume lacking a college degree, just like I would not disqualify any resume for missing one of the listed job requirements. You can always make up for it with relevant experience.

And no, there is no format necessary for the resume file name.

I would like to close this process down soon (next week sometime) so if you are planning on submitting a resume, your time grows short.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Inc.

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Is there any plan on sending out an e-mail confirmation just so folks can know for certain that a resume was received?

Paizo Employee Lead Designer

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Not at the moment, but I will be sending out emails to everyone who applied once the first round is completed.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer


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Apply Everyone! We want the most phenomenal person for the job! Is that you? YES!

Random Gygax info from Wikipedia:

"Gygax continued his night-school classes and made the college Dean's List.[citation needed] At the urging of his professors, he applied to the University of Chicago and was admitted.[citation needed] However, because he was married, he decided to take a full-time job in insurance instead."

Adam Daigle wrote:
(One of the first questions I was asked in the interview was asking why I didn't complete my degree.)

So it looks like he'd have a good answer for this question.


it would be a great job... fun and interesting.

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Who exactly is reading these? I didn't see any HR-type people listed on the site; does that mean it's Jason? Stephen? Maybe Jessica? Just want to know who I'm writing to.

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Jason is the manager for this position, so he's making the first cut. Others will be brought in at the appropriate time—lots and lots of others.

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Thanks!

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Others will be brought in at the appropriate time—lots and lots of others.

For a brief second, I read that as, "Otters will be brought in... lots and lots of otters."


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The Seattle area does have a thriving population of otters...


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That otter do it, then.


I would think the obvious answer would be management like Jason will weed out the obvious no's then Lisa will look through the top choices and do the final interview and approval.

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MattR1986 wrote:
I would think the obvious answer would be management like Jason will weed out the obvious no's then Lisa will look through the top choices and do the final interview and approval.

Actually, I will be doing the initial cut, showing off the candidates to those that need to see them. Then I will be administering and judging the Design Test. After that, I will work with management to arrange interviews for perspective candidates before deciding on who to make an offer to. Of course, those above me will be heavily involved in the later stages.

BTW, get your resumes in ASAP. I am going to start going through them this week.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer


Lol isn't that more or less what I said? XD you'll go through the bulk and weed out most of the people, management like Lisa will do the final interviews with the top choices and make the final yay or nay.

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The period to send in your resume is now closed. I will be sending emails to all those who applied within the next few hours.

Thank you to everyone who applied.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer

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All responses have now been sent. If you submitted a resume, but did not receive a response, please send me a PM to get it sorted out.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer


What percentage of people got to the second round?


i would love to be a part of the design team.. but unless you're planning on relocating Paizo-East to Morgantown, West Virginia it's not going to happen.
And, for the record, Morgantown would be an awesome place to relocate to... nice mid-sized city near (but not too near) the really big cities, has numerous caves and mines nearby for low level dungeon adventures and copious amounts of national and state parks for wilderness adventures! :)

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Cheapy wrote:
As someone who doesn't have a horse in this race, about what percentage of applicants received the design test?

My guess is more than 5% but less than 10%.

Probably around 8 to 16 people.

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