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My character in our S&S campaign is basically the ships pleasurer. She takes it on for multiple reasons, largely to avoid any cases of rape by the crew upon victims of our piracy.
That being said, unless there is a need to know how well she performs, it just fades to black. If a roll is needed (bartered favors for partial payment on ship modifications as an example) a simple profession courtesan roll suffices. Occasionally the regular gm will mention something or other about what exactly happened but it is kept primarily in the background. Her pregnancy is prevented by a curse placed upon her as a part of her back story, no one wants their concubine to get unexpectedly pregnant after all (her lot in life as a slave BEFORE being press-ganged into piracy, I think she traded up).
My rule is that the GM does not RP these type of scenes with other players at the table. If you want to RP it, you RP both yourself and the NPC you're involved with. Never had someone take it too far.
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I let the table decide. Currently, in my Kingmaker game we have a Quing - because the King is the biggest queen in the kingdom. The Quing has a consort, his cohort...
We would general describe the sex scene in a few simple details and then leave the rest to the imagination. Usually a lot more emphasis on the emotions that people are feeling rather than the physical actions being performed. For example one scene that I remember from one of our games was "He's a sensitive and gentle lover but has a sad air and you feel that he's been lonely for a very long time".
We're all close enough friends to be able to speak candidly about sex without feeling too awkward. At the same time though, going through detailed erotic roleplay would feel inappropriate.
Sex and romance have been relevant to our games since we try to make the characters feel like real people with lives. We've had PCs dating or getting married to NPCs in game and the occasional one night stand. I think it adds a lot to the story to have these elements in there, but we don't necessarily need to go into great detail.
Most settings we assume that there are readily available contraceptive methods and that pregnancy won't occur unless it's something that the PCs attempt for.
Fade to black or off-screen.
Constitution rolls are optional.
Some players will be a little flirtatious.
When it is between two female players:
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At times romances have been pursued between players and npcs, this can happen a bit actually and I've gone for this as a pc, and done my dm role proud as a non-pc. As the character are in a world it seems a little limited for them to just be item shopping door kicking dungeon clearers. They enjoy battle but never sex? Seems a little off.
I have been fortunate to, after much build-up over a campaign, get my character to a fade to black that was so romantic, a player at the table swooned and giggled with glee:
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A marshal of Iriaebor, Zakhfar al Assad visited his love interest (a fire genasi) in haste before a truly treacherous quest. Something had clearly started between them, but there was always duty or quests to save the city in the way. Nothing would stop them this time though, a rushed kiss of passion went further and yeah, the crowd went wild. He emerged a touch singed. He didn't lose the next battle either. ;)
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So we generally take it along the course a bit, dialogue is important, the relationships of the pcs can be significant, then go with the fade to black, or the pounce of lust by a party followed by "and meanwhile elsewhere the other adventurers are in a fight of their own".
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It's certainly a group-by-group thing. I would personally say if there is anyone under 18 the DM should simply describe along the lines of, "You spend a lovely 15 minutes/few hours/evening with " so-and-so.
I've mentioned this before on these very forums, but the best sex-in-Pathfinder moment I've seen is ...
These are interesting responses. I've DM'ed for 15 years and I cannot think of a time PC/NPC or PC/PC sex came up.
I guess my murder hobos just had too much PTSD to form intimate relationships.
There's a great Community episode that addresses this.
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Sooo Meaty
I had two games where it came up.
Once involved a party of male players who decided to make the most of their characters, which included an omni-sexual character and a party face who got reincarnated as a female merfolk. The omni-sexual kept hitting on everyone, and the mermaid (with player's permission) got sold into slavery where she got pregnant from the fiend lord who bought her. In the end the omni-sexual never made it work, while the mermaid used the fact she was carrying the fiend lord's heir as her claim to his throne when she took over his army and appointed herself Queen.
In the other game, the players were all married and included my wife and one of my ex-girlfriends. I introduced a charismatic but naive NPC who flirted with them, and they both flirted back. Then they discussed their character personalities and matter-of-fact-ly informed me they were taking him into the back for a threesome. An awkward moment for me and my ex-girlfriend's husband, but in hindsight I've come to appreciate that group; from just a storytelling perspective, I appreciated getting to take the game to a new place without having it descend into immaturity, giggles, or handwaving.
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I agree 100% with fade to black, or a brief description along the lines of "okay, you have sex, moving right along..."
Despite being American myself, I also don't go into graphic detail when torturing people, or the like, despite it being a heavy part of my antipaladin character's personality. I simply tell the GM, "my character tortures the prisoner; I'll leave the grisly details up to your imagination, but understand, he has a really high intimidate score, a CE alignment, and access to cure spells from the shaman when he needs to."
I don't dislike sex talk at the table because of prudishness, but rather because of personal experience with really immature players. You know, the grown man player who makes a lesbian character and immediately begins to whore her out to anything without a penis? Yeah, I've been at that table with that guy. We did kick him out in short order for that and many other issues.
I don't dislike sex talk at the table because of prudishness, but rather because of personal experience with really immature players. You know, the grown man player who makes a lesbian character and immediately begins to whore her out to anything without a penis? Yeah, I've been at that table with that guy. We did kick him out in short order for that and many other issues.
Dang...
Huh. What an odd thread to be necro'ed. Still, while it's here, surely the test is as it should be for anything you do as a GM: Ask "is this detail relevant?"
Example: The scenery, do players really need to know a tower they aren't likely to enter has wonderful views? Or the exact paint color the describes the current sunset?
Example 2: Unless it's to provide a red herring, or a clue, in an investigative game; must my players know about the barman's unkempt mole on his left cheek?
On topic example: Do my players need to know what position their...target is into? Unless an assassin will attack in such an event; not really. Now, if they will - you're damn right I want to know if you're standing or not. Prone has penalties!
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I am disappointed that nobody has linked to the Succubus in a grapple thread yet.
On topic: Just like eating and pooping, say you're doing it and then it happens offscreen/fades to black.
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On topic: Just like eating and pooping, say you're doing it and then it happens offscreen/fades to black.
You mean your players don't RP the morning dump? That would totally break my sense of immersion.
I am disappointed that nobody has linked to the Succubus in a grapple thread yet.
Literally planning on doing exactly that once I got home/off the iPad. Well done, sir.
(Though I was planning on doing something along the lines of a pun like "Man, why aren't these two threads 'linked' if you know what I'm sayin'?")
Maybe it's just because we're a bunch of sexed-up 20-somethigs, but I've ran a fairly eroticized game before which is still going strong (hurrdurr). Though the first session was the only one in person, we've been playing over Roll20. We fade-to-black if the idea is some kind of throw away fling, but otherwise we make remarks that get across the 'plan of action'. Sometimes there's character development or a good lead-in to some sidequest, etc. Sometimes it's just fun to do. It's not like there's anything wrong with it.
At the table I think you have to have a very tight group to be able to play something like this, but I am an advocate if you're of a mind - you learn a fair bit about both the players and the characters.
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I'm generally DM, so I usually like to let the players set the standard -- as someone above alluded, the most squeamish player is usually the benchmark to aim for. That said, in a mixed-gender group with a fair amount of alcohol, I wouldn't necessarily shy away from some stuff that isn't 100% rated G, if that's where the group preference seemed to be.
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In any rpg that I GM, I only introduce the sexual parts when playing with other kinky (BDSM) folks. With that crowd, luckily, just about anything goes. It's hard to be squeamish about sexuality when you go to parties where it's all done in the open. I'm working on a building a campaign right now where the PCs are Kytons (Cenobites).
When it comes to playing with non-kinky folks, I generally try to steer clear of game sexuality in general.
Sex happens at my table, but it's not described heavily or at all, it just skips to the next morning. Oh, assuming it's hetero, the two characters then roll a combined DC35 constitution check, success means pregnancy.
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I've always liked the hated Book of Erotic Fantasy from 3.5 because of the notes about pregnancy. Who can get who pregnant, what are the odds, gestation times, symptoms and how they affect stats... I think that stuff is vastly interesting. I think the not-steamy part of sex is just as fascinating, if not more so, when it comes to tabletops.
I think that comes more under the consequences of sex than the act although I admit it is interesting and I've always been a fan of the fan made 1st version that had rules on a called shot to the crotch especially the results of max damage on surrounding males.
How do you treat it? Do you roleplay it, and how often does it comes to the table?
Oh boy.
One of my players really enjoys the activity of being one flesh, not to say anything about myself. So how do I handle sex? Well, due to the maturity of my players, when it does come up we do RP through it. in my other games, sexuality does not come up -- as much.
In my EXALTED game, one of my players played an Alchemical Sex Bot, and while I did everything to accomodate her, the players did everything to try and keep her from being who she was. It was frustrating to see, although it was fun.
I've always thought a good rule of thumb should be: use the same amount of frankness and detail when describing sexual encounters in-game, as you would when describing your actual, real-life sexual encounters to someone in a non-game context.
If you're not comfortable relating all the ways you and your girlfriend like to get down, in graphic detail, to Bob, the guy who plays the half-orc ranger in your gaming group, then there's really no reason why you should have to roleplay in-game sex to that level of detail, either. Likewise, if Bob isn't interested in listening to you go on about sex in the real world, then you have no business forcing him to listen to it in the game world.
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I don't dislike sex talk at the table because of prudishness, but rather because of personal experience with really immature players. You know, the grown man player who makes a lesbian character and immediately begins to whore her out to anything without a penis? Yeah, I've been at that table with that guy. We did kick him out in short order for that and many other issues.Would it make a difference if the player was female?
It would make a slight difference, but it would probably result in the same thing over time.
Less creepy obvious-male-fantasy-indulgence, but just as annoying after a short period of time. It would then be the equivalent annoyance of a man making a male character who spends his time whoring out. I don't want to sit and watch someone else act out their sexual fantasies. I didn't come to the table for that.
You may say "Oh, but we're here acting out our violent fantasies" and yes, we are, but there's a major difference, and it's not "ooh, America heart bloodlust sex is bad!"
It's that, frankly, as a heterosexual male, I don't want to know what gets other guys off. As a married man, I'm also not particularly interested in what gets other women off besides my wife. Even for those people unmarried, I could say that as a man with particular tastes in physical form, I'm also not interested in what gets women I'm not attracted to going. That makes potential people who would be interested in this kind of thing a very niche group. There are probably single bisexual individuals that also happen to miraculously be physically attracted to everyone at their table who might go for that, but again, that is an extreme minority.
Violence, meanwhile, doesn't have such factors associated with it. You don't have massive population segments who are interested or disinterested in violence based on gender, attractiveness, or availability. (You have weird subsegments, but that's an extreme minority.)
I have enough common sense to assume the rest of the table doesn't care about/doesn't want to hear me act/talk about that stuff.
Frankly, it's disrespectful, selfish, and juvenile to try and go into depth with that considering you have 4-5 other people at the table who by and large not only probably don't give a crap, but are outright annoyed that you're stealing their table time for your own selfish whims.
Making it a joke is a good way to diffuse the situation if players are really seeking sexual roleplay that makes you or any of your players uncomfortable.
I GMed for a group of my friends, and this has come up a few times, as there are two married couples who wanted their characters to be together as well, but surprisingly didn't start them out that way.
For the most part we handled things "offscreen", but at the beginning there was a point where they wanted to roll for it to see if the husband could seduce the wife and then they wanted to know how satisfied they were with each other's performance.
He was a half-orc, she was a half-elf. I had him do a Diplomacy/Bluff check against her Will save. For the deed itself, he rolled Performance, she rolled Handle Animal. The whole table busted a gut laughing at that one.
Also, it can be a good mini plot hook. Have a jealous lover or honor-bound secret admirer/stalker break in before the deed is done. Another idea is to have the town's local laws be very prudish and have the character jailed for "private indecency." No sex within the town lines, or some such.
It's the expressions on the faces of the other players in that scene, and the fact that one is taking notes...
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Got necromancy?
Gotta use the called shot rules.*calls shot* 8 ball corner pocket
Don't you mean.....*sunglasses*
The money shot?
If I DM'ed a sexual encounter, I'd probably find the funniest reasons to make the player roll for every skill check, even use magical device and diplomacy.
For skull and shackles the ships were named "the morning after" and "the walk of shame"
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ALL BARBARIAN KNOW FOR SURE AM THAT +5 GREATCLUB (NOT FOR SMASHING) AM GENERALLY NOT APPROVED FOR PFS PLAY.
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What? No mention of a flanking bonus anywhere in this thread?