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What about replaying it with a level 2 PC?Nothing.
No Modules or Scenarios are re-playable with level 2.
Ya know, it depends on your definition of replay.
Any Tier 1-2 module is playable, once only, with a level 2 PC. It doesn't matter whether that level 2 PC is used the first imt eyou polay it, or on your thirteenth time playing it, you can still play through it once with a level 2 PC.
You can't play through it twice with two level 2 PCs, not can you play it multiple times with the same PC.
But, technically, if you played it the first time with a level 1 PC, you can, indeed, replay it with a level 2 PC. You just cannot play it more than once with a level 2 PC.
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I am looking for the rules for replaying with a level 1. Where are they?
They are located in the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play
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I am looking for the rules for replaying with a level 1. Where are they?
More specifically, pg. 29 of the Guide linked above.
The only exceptions are Tier 1–2 modules and sanctioned
Adventure Path content. A player may only play a Tier 1–2
module or sanctioned Adventure Path content for credit
once with a 2nd-level character, but may use additional
1st-level characters to replay the same content for credit.
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I believe it is legal, if a violation of the spirit of the rules, to play a level 1 PC with 2 chronicles (5 if slow play) and then end up nearly on third.*
I think it violates the spirit of the rules, as a 1.2 character has a bit more starting gold than a 1.0, and thus 'skirts the line' All in my humble opinion though.
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I don't know how slow advancement effects when you have a 3 XP adventure/Module that jumps you a level. Do you have to take it all slow XP and thus 'lock' the next level as slow play?I would assume you would have to take the xp per the advancement you are currently at, thus, if you are on slow track, you would get 1/2 the regular xp. If that levels you with the extra half point, then I would assume it locks you into slow track for the next level. This would be a choice by the player, so the solution is easy, don't play that character.
That's my logic, just wondered if it was brought up before.
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I have to agree with CRobledo on this one. There are more than a couple of encounters in The Accursed Halls that are non-trivial with a team of 6 2nd level characters, much less 1st level.
And one encounter that can quickly escalate into a TPK with first level characters... I am looking at you, Garhal Silvercrown!
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At the start, Omnitricks.
As some other people have pointed out, prudent 1st-level parties might decide to bail out after one or two serious encounters. (This is true of many modules, not just the Accursed Halls.) So there's no way of knowing how many experience points a character might earn.
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I think it violates the spirit of the rules
I don't know how slow advancement effects when you have a 3 XP adventure/Module that jumps you a level. Do you have to take it all slow XP and thus 'lock' the next level as slow play?
I don't think it goes against the spirit, as it is 1st level. The language to use to block that is "a fresh un-played 1st level"
If you are slow, then you get 1.5 XP. You can't change into or out of slow play mid level (only at exact level breaks.) You need to be especially careful when applying GM credit to babies, that you don't level them out of the tier of the module/scenario when doing a lot of modules. If you do you can't apply the credit you have or must apply it to some other GM baby.
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I don't think it goes against the spirit, as it is 1st level. The language to use to block that is "a fresh un-played 1st level"A better way of saying that would be, "a first level character with 0 xp."
Or, alternatively, the description "a newly created character" (which is the wording used in the Guide to Organized Play).
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so in my case, my level 1 did not make it out of the halls alive, as such, can I replay it with other/new level 1's?
Yes, the Accursed Halls is a Tier 1-2 module, so it is replayable as many times as you want with level l PCs, and once with a level 2 PC.
You cannot apply credit for the same scenario or module twice to a single PC, whether it is a Tier 1 scenario, Tier 1-2 module, or player and GM credit.
You can play a Tier 1 scenario with a PC with 0, 1, or 2 XP.
You can play a Tier 1-2 module with a PC with 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 XP, but only once for credit with a PC with 3, 4, or 5 XP.
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I don't know about that. It's easy to have Thornkeep level 1 take up practically all of the allotted time (and even longer, if you spend a bit of time setting the scene in the settlement itself, rather than just dropping your party at the entrance to the dungeon complex).
The next couple of levels, though, can often be finished in less time.
Of course if you want the fastest way to rack up GM stars, just run "We Be Goblins!"
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Is there a place/blog/post that shows/lists all Tier 1 scenarios or Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules?
There really aren't that many.
At present, "First Steps Part 1: In Service to Lore" is the only legal Tier 1 scenario. "5-08: The Confirmation" will be released shortly. At that point I expect "First Steps 1" to be retired.
The replayable modules are "Master of the Fallen Fortress", "We Be Goblins!", "Crypt of the Everflame", "The Godsmouth Heresy", and "Thornkeep: The Accursed Halls".
I believe that's everything - if I've left anything out, I'm sure a correction will show up almost immediately.
Edit: Originally left out The Godsmouth Heresy
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It depends a lot on how much time you spend on the town of Thornkeep itself. Role-playing the inn, the Blue Basilisks, the cleric who's willing to cast discounted healing spells on true warriors, the goblin ghetto, the trading posts dealing with stolen goods ...
It's all fun, and it gives important clues to what's going on down in the dungeons, and it can take time.
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What Chris said.
When I GMed this I ran it the way I had played it (starting at the entrance). Then I saw a post on these forums mentioning roleplaying through Thornkeep proper, and went back and re-read that part of the module. From now on I'll be sure to give my tables the chance to pick up all those clues before setting foot in the dungeon!
(One of my gripes about PFS scenarios is that there's often a lot of fascinating stuff on the first page, but no guarantee that any of it will be made available to the players. I'm usually trying to work some of that information into whatever I tell the party, but I don't always do as well as I would like).
P.S.: Mystic Lemur: I don't know why Murder's Mark isn't on my list (especially since I bought the module a few weeks ago ...) Thanks!
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Just to be clear: You can get Thornkeep credit for a single character up to four times, yes? Three as level 1, and once more at level 2?
-Rob
You can get credit for the Tier 1-2 Accursed Halls part of Thornkeep once for a level 2 character, and as many times as you want with a level 1 (no limit at this time).
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I think the question is whether one character could play AH as a first-level character, and again as a second-level character. AIUI, they can't. Just because you can play multiple characters through it doesn't mean you can break the one chronicle sheet per scenario per character rule. Otherwise, you could go through First Steps Part I three times to get to second level.
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For The Accursed Halls, you can actually gain credit for it on two second level PCs, once as a player, once as a GM. You can get it credited [infinity] number of times to first level PCs, either as player or GM credit.
It is possible, (once as a player, and once as the GM), to get five different chronicles for Thornkeep on a PC. Once for each level in the Thornkeep book. Only the first level, Accursed Halls, is replayable; the other levels work the same as any other non-Tier 1-2 module.
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Okay - why does everyone say "The Accursed Halls" is the Level 1 beginning - when it starts on page 30?
What are "The Forest Stronghold" and "The Echo Wood", chopped liver?
Can someone explain this to me. I'm trying to binder-up one binder of repeatable so that I'm ALWAYS ready in case we have a GM Shortage at the weekly sessions @ the gamers haven in Spokane.
Thank you!
Scosu PFS
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Okay - why does everyone say "The Accursed Halls" is the Level 1 beginning - when it starts on page 30?
What are "The Forest Stronghold" and "The Echo Wood", chopped liver?
The Forest Stronghold and Echo Wood are not part of the material sanctioned for PFS play. The players can play those parts of the module if they like but gain no gold or rewards for it, and it does not count towards earning the chronicle.
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For PFS purposes, those sections are treated as optional role-play and background material. They cover the aboveground areas, the town of Thornkeep and its surrounds, around the actual dungeon, which is what starts on page 30.
Those pages also cover the area that is, in Pathfinder Online, one of the starting towns for PCs.
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Just to check - it says in We be Goblins: (chronicle PDF)
"As always, each player may receive credit for each module
once as a player and once as a GM in either order."
So is this then superceded by the Tier 1 & 1-2 being replayable for level 1's?
(I assume so, but it seems to be very contradictory info)
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Current list of level 1 re-playable events:
First Steps 1 - In Service to Lore
5-08 The Confirmation
Pathfinder Quest: Goblin Attack!
Thornkeep: The Accursed Halls
Module: Master of the Fallen Fortress
Module: We Be Goblins!
Module: Crypt of the Everflame
Module: The Godsmouth Heresy
Module: Murder's Mark
Adventure Path: Skull & Shackles 1 - The Wormwood Mutiny
Adventure Path: Shattered Star 1 - Shards of Sin
Adventure Path: Reign of Winter 1 -The Snows of Summer
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