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Ben Affleck to play Batman in Man os Steel sequel.
It could work depending the direction they want to go with character.
Ah, hrm.
Ben Affleck would make a great Bruce Wayne, perhaps, but I have a hard time seeing him as Batman.
But he could surprise me. He's not a bad actor (though I know some would disagree), I'm just not sure he's right for the part.
With the job he did on Daredevil, how can this possibly go wrong.
#dclosesagain
It is frequently the fault of the director when a movie makes an actor look bad. Daredevil was a movie with horrible directing, writing, etc. When the entire production of a movie is so fouled up, it's hard to know how bad the acting actually is.
I concur that Affleck can make a reasonably believable Bruce Wayne, which is probably the more important part since a pretty large bulk of the "Batman" work will be done with stunt men anyway.
It is hard to think of how much worse Affleck can be as Batman than Christian Bale has been. I can't watch him as Batman without snickering at his pathetic attempts to sound "tough" when in costume. Not to mention how silly he looked in his obvious rubber suit muscles in scenes juxtaposed with Bane's actual musculature.
I just hope the next Batman avoids the Bat Nipple syndrome...
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I guess it can work. Damon is a little too old to fit in the Robin-suit though.
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With the job he did on Daredevil, how can this possibly go wrong.
#dclosesagain
We have to keep in mind the movie itself was pretty bad (though I found enough entertainment) that it can hardly be considered his fault. Plus it's been like 10 years since that movie and people and actors change. No one would have been so enduring to Robert Downing Jr. as Iron Man as they are now if he was still the same man.
I'm not saying he'll be the best but it would be hard to be the worst.
I'm keeping an open mind.
Famous last words.
I've been trying to come up with ways this could work, and my first thought is superman kills batman in the first 15 minutes of the film, and the rest of the film is about whoever was cast as robin/nightwing dealing with the fallout of batmans death...
as people elsewhere have already pointed out, I find Ben Affleck less worrying than the fact that apparently a script still isn't finished for a movie that will be released in 2015...
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I guess it can work. Damon is a little too old to fit in the Robin-suit though.
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MATT DAMON!!!
I hated the idea of Keaton playing Batman, yet it did boffo box office (although I never accepted him as the character). Actually, I liked George Clooney the best of the actors we've seen on film, yet few agree with me. It just goes to show that no actor can please everyone in assuming an iconic role. But I am happy to give Ben the benefit of the doubt--not everyone can be Kevin Conroy, after all...
I am hoping with Affleck that they get away from the gritty Dark Knight incarnation and go with something less edgy.
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I'd worry less about Affleck, and more about it being directed by Hack Snyder, me.
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I hated the idea of Keaton playing Batman, yet it did boffo box office (although I never accepted him as the character). Actually, I liked George Clooney the best of the actors we've seen on film, yet few agree with me. It just goes to show that no actor can please everyone in assuming an iconic role. But I am happy to give Ben the benefit of the doubt--not everyone can be Kevin Conroy, after all...
You liked the perpetual smiley face man? Sorry, batman doesn't smile.
Darn, I think I missed Yellow Dingo's petition.
Honestly, there has never been a movie that I felt good that Affleck was in. There are movies I gritted my teeth and tolerated him in, but never did I finish a movie and think, "Damn, I can't believe it, but he honestly did a good job."
I hated the idea of Keaton playing Batman, yet it did boffo box office (although I never accepted him as the character). Actually, I liked George Clooney the best of the actors we've seen on film, yet few agree with me. It just goes to show that no actor can please everyone in assuming an iconic role. But I am happy to give Ben the benefit of the doubt--not everyone can be Kevin Conroy, after all...You liked the perpetual smiley face man? Sorry, batman doesn't smile.
The *current* version of Batman doesn't smile--that wasn't true in the comics of the 40s, 50s and 60s (a pretty big chunk of Batman's history, by my reckoning).
Yeah, cause Marvel's characters have always made out well in movies. Dolph Lundgren and Thomas Jane as Punisher? Matt Salinger and Reb Brown as Captain America? David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury?
Howard the Duck?!?!
Ben Affleck looks pretty good I'd say...
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I gotta say that I find the newer Batman stuff to be way too dark and off-putting for me. The one with Bane was one I was looking forward to but it was SO dark and disturbing that I stopped watching it soon after B-man was put into "The Pit" to recover.
It was nothing more than a "supered" up terrorist story with horribly ramped up violence.
Superman is killing dudes, Batman is taking violence to an unacceptable level...we keep turning up the volume on the graphic violence and becoming more unable to understand how violence is becoming a major part of our society.
I would like to see a Batman that tones it down a bit and focuses more on Batman the Investigator. I wouldn't mind seeing Ryan Gosling in the role, or Bradley Cooper. Some eye candy here.
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Batman taking violence to an unacceptable level? In Rises? Well, as I recall, most of the movie had a nuclear bomb threatening to go off. Even so, Batman refused to actually kill Bane by just shooting him, something he could have done several times. I am not sure I understand precisely what you mean here.
If you prefer the Dark Detective side, you might check out the new Beware the Batman cartoon on Cartoon Network. It's not (yet) quite as good as B:TAS, but it's getting there.
Ehum. There is only one the Great Detective. He lived on Baker Street, London.
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Ehum. There is only one the Great Detective. He lived on Baker Street, London.Yeah, but he's dead.
In some versions, Batman is the closest thing around in the modern day. :)
And that's the Batman I liked, even in the campy 70's tv show version he was scouting out clues and devising antidotes for Joker's latest insanity poison and such. Now-a-days it just seems like it went for a more hack and slash role and got rid of all the cool little stuff that made Batman the ultimate crime fighter.
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The *current* version of Batman doesn't smile--that wasn't true in the comics of the 40s, 50s and 60s (a pretty big chunk of Batman's history, by my reckoning).
Some people don't seem to realize that the grim, humorless, overly paranoid, nearly as psychotic as his villains version of Batman is really only a fairly recent interpretation of the character.
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Problems with "The Dark Knight Rises" aside, it would be nice to see more of a focus on Batman, the Great Detective.
And less on Batman the leather clad psycho.
Even in the comics, he's rarely done anything to deserve the "World's Greatest Detective" title that he's so often given. Oracle was much more deserving of that than Bats.
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Yeah, cause Marvel's characters have always made out well in movies. Dolph Lundgren and Thomas Jane as Punisher? Matt Salinger and Reb Brown as Captain America? David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury?
Howard the Duck?!?!
Ben Affleck looks pretty good I'd say...
I have to say Dolph's Punisher and the Hoff's Nick Fury are guilty pleasures of mine.
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I gotta say that I find the newer Batman stuff to be way too dark and off-putting for me. The one with Bane was one I was looking forward to but it was SO dark and disturbing that I stopped watching it soon after B-man was put into "The Pit" to recover.
It was nothing more than a "supered" up terrorist story with horribly ramped up violence.Superman is killing dudes, Batman is taking violence to an unacceptable level...we keep turning up the volume on the graphic violence and becoming more unable to understand how violence is becoming a major part of our society.
I would like to see a Batman that tones it down a bit and focuses more on Batman the Investigator. I wouldn't mind seeing Ryan Gosling in the role, or Bradley Cooper.
Welcome to a post 9/11 Hollywood. These grimdark stories are selling like hotcakes. It will be a while before the pendulum swings back to the corny stuff from the 50's.
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Well, I definitely don't want the corny stuff from the 50's. Isn't there a middle point between camp and pseudo-fascism?Welcome to a post 9/11 Hollywood. These grimdark stories are selling like hotcakes. It will be a while before the pendulum swings back to the corny stuff from the 50's.I gotta say that I find the newer Batman stuff to be way too dark and off-putting for me. The one with Bane was one I was looking forward to but it was SO dark and disturbing that I stopped watching it soon after B-man was put into "The Pit" to recover.
It was nothing more than a "supered" up terrorist story with horribly ramped up violence.Superman is killing dudes, Batman is taking violence to an unacceptable level...we keep turning up the volume on the graphic violence and becoming more unable to understand how violence is becoming a major part of our society.
I would like to see a Batman that tones it down a bit and focuses more on Batman the Investigator. I wouldn't mind seeing Ryan Gosling in the role, or Bradley Cooper.
I don't think there is a middle ground they are super hero movies after all. They tend to tell stories from the extreme.
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Seconding "I'm worried about Snyder, not Affleck".
I didnt see 300 but everybody and their grandmother think its a masterpiece. Sucker punch was junk. With the exceptions of a few castings I really like the watchman. Haven't seen the new superman yet and probably wont until TV.(Nothing against snyder not a superman fan). So Snyder is meh for me.
What is so worrisome about Snyder? Is it that he is seen as a hack or that he wont do Superman/batman justice?
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B:TAS was a good middle ground, I thought. Not grimdark, but not super corny either.
No big surprise, it was retardedly popular (and for good reason).
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B:TAS was a good middle ground, I thought. Not grimdark, but not super corny either.
No big surprise, it was retardedly popular (and for good reason).
While B:AS was mature without being grimdark, it also was well before 9/11 and an animated series. Supes films took a bit of a turn starting with blade and they seem to be heading strongly in that direction for the time being.
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B:TAS was a good middle ground, I thought. Not grimdark, but not super corny either.
No big surprise, it was retardedly popular (and for good reason).
It's really my baseline for Batman anything.
And Mark Hamill is still the best Joker IMO.
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Hey, let's give Affleck a bit of a break. He's moved away from the whole Bennifer movie star thing and he's focused on being an actual actor. Look at his recent work - The Town comes to mind. He was amazing.
He may do a really good job in this. I'm cautiously optimistic.
And if I remember correctly, people were less than thrilled when it was announced Christian Bale would play Batman. He took the role in a fantastic direction.
I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it.
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B:TAS was a good middle ground, I thought. Not grimdark, but not super corny either.
No big surprise, it was retardedly popular (and for good reason).
It's really my baseline for Batman anything.
And Mark Hamill is still the best Joker IMO.
With the exception of a few characters(particularly Catwoman), B:TAS is my "default" too. :)
(hey, they even gave Mr Freeze the origin and characterization most folks now assume he always had!)
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Affleck is Batman.
THANKS, OBAMA!!!
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Eh, Ben Affleck. At least he's got a teensy bit of acting range beyond what I'd expect from Christian Bale, who spent the last three movies making Keanu Reeves look like the most expressive actor ever.
I wouldn't mind if there was more focus on Bruce Wayne, on detective shenanigans, clever plans (instead of last minute games of catch-up where the bad-guys dictate the terms of encounters, show me Batman being *smart* and pro-active and getting the jump on someone!), etc. and him being less grim and humorless, to slightly counter the overly ponderous and (to me, at least) deadly dull Dark Knight movies. I preferred Keaton to Bale, in that sense, as the only moments that lightened up the last three Batmen films *even a little* were scenes with Alfred snarking about Bruce filling up the tank when he's done borrowing 'Alfred's' car, and Lucius wishing the accountant good luck blackmailing Batman.
Now Man of Steel has run with the emotionally constipated overserious portrayal as well, and Superman has usually been a more colorful and less grim character than Batman. I get that they tried for humor with Green Lantern, and didn't quite nail it the way Iron Man did, and so might be trapped into thinking that only Nolan-esque broody monologuing will sell, but that's not really the 'lesson' that they needed to learn from Green Lantern not quite blowing up the bank.
I'm pretty sure that Fake Healers suggestion of Ryan Gosling would be much like Bale, another actor who doesn't really show much range, and should probably stick to playing zombies, robots or sociopaths, that won't tax their limited ability to have or show a human feeling at some point.
Too much effort has already been made to cast actors for Batman who can successfully play an emotionally-stunted lump of barely-even-human crimefighter in the mask, and not any at all to someone who can play Batman in his 'costumed identity' as a charming quirky millionaire playboy. And now that Robert Downey, Jr. has taken that cake from DC's hands and eated it right in front of them, I doubt it will ever happen. DC seems to be in full surrender mode, allowing Marvel to fence off all the good land.
I hope he's playing a new version of Batman, and they aren't going to try to sell us on the idea that he's the same dude as BaleMan.
I think Affleck can be fine in the role, but Snyder probably isn't the director I would trust to get a good performance out of anyone. Maybe Ben can stage a coup and take over director duties for the film himself, then we might actually get a good Superman movie.
It is obvious. They should have taken Ricky Gervais. Funny, sensitive, women like him, so a chance to expand the target audience. Perfect!
